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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Hate to burst your bubble but the typical JB4 with exhaust bolt-ons won't pull an M3.

Also hate to be the "fantasy modder" here but the M3 with VF supercharger kit is the fastest damn car I've seen. Mind you it's an additional $15k so don't expect to see many. The next M3 is coming with force induction stock, finally, but IMO it's looking to be the ugliest 3 series yet
how does that compare to the weistec stage 1?
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Also hate to be the "fantasy modder" here but the M3 with VF supercharger kit is the fastest damn car I've seen. Mind you it's an additional $15k so don't expect to see many. The next M3 is coming with force induction stock, finally, but IMO it's looking to be the ugliest 3 series yet
Are you taking about Drew's (DLSJ) car? I don't remember if he has an ESS or VF, but his car has a built bottom end with a lowered compression ratio. So it is not just an "ordinary" blown E9X M3.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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how does that compare to the weistec stage 1?
I don't want to speculate, M5Board.com does a lot of good "comparison" videos.


Here is a stock C63 going up against the M3 with a bit of forced induction. The outcome is a bit obvious but should put things into perspective.

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by seo
I don't want to speculate, M5Board.com does a lot of good "comparison" videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxjjK9EW044

Here is a stock C63 going up against the M3 with a bit of forced induction. The outcome is a bit obvious but should put things into perspective.

I think I'm done keyboard racing here
Sad to see, but fair.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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here is a gintani sc vs weistec stage 1 (presumably) filmed by the c63. love that sound!
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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Guys compare Apple to Apples. C63 vs 335 ? Come on.. BMW people must be making fun of you right now.. Why don't you compare C63 Vs M3...
FBO Meth 335s walk all over M3s.....

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by seo
Hate to burst your bubble but the typical JB4 with exhaust bolt-ons won't pull an M3.

Also hate to be the "fantasy modder" here but the M3 with VF supercharger kit is the fastest damn car I've seen. Mind you it's an additional $15k so don't expect to see many. The next M3 is coming with force induction stock, finally, but IMO it's looking to be the ugliest 3 series yet
I've personally witnessed a VT2-625 DCT M3 trap 132 mph with no engine work so I know they would put a hurting on almost anyone.

A bolted/tuned M3 DCT traps 115-116, which is a hair faster than a stock C63. Tuned C63s are another story though.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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FBO Meth 335s Running properly walk all over M3s.....

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A bolted/tuned M3 DCT traps 115-116, which is a hair faster than a stock C63. Tuned C63s are another story though.
Most M3 mods other than a supercharger are kind of a joke. Aftermarket air filters, software is extremely marginal in benefit, maybe a lightened exhaust with gutted cats Not really much you can do.
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Originally Posted by seo
Hate to burst your bubble but the typical JB4 with exhaust bolt-ons won't pull an M3.

Also hate to be the "fantasy modder" here but the M3 with VF supercharger kit is the fastest damn car I've seen. Mind you it's an additional $15k so don't expect to see many. The next M3 is coming with force induction stock, finally, but IMO it's looking to be the ugliest 3 series yet

my friend has a 2011 dct m3 and my other friend has a stock 2012 335i from a dig up to 90 the m3 is spelling turbo smoke.

i raced supercharged m3 and non and full bolt on, and i raced all types of 335 trust me 335 are faster i know 1st hand.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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yea fix it bc 99% of 335's that are modded dont run rite at least thats what im told after i beat on them.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Most M3 mods other than a supercharger are kind of a joke. Aftermarket air filters, software is extremely marginal in benefit, maybe a lightened exhaust with gutted cats Not really much you can do.
so since you wanna compare a blown m3 to a 335 why not compare it to the single turbo upgraded 335 that runs 10.8@131
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Originally Posted by mthis
my friend has a 2011 dct m3 and my other friend has a stock 2012 335i from a dig up to 90 the m3 is spelling turbo smoke.

i raced supercharged m3 and non and full bolt on, and i raced all types of 335 trust me 335 are faster i know 1st hand.
I'm not really trying to butthug an M3, but here is a "race" with a V1 tune (V5 is out but I don't think it's going to make up for a 3 car difference)


A lot more proper than some of the terrible "street" videos I've seen on YouTube.



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so since you wanna compare a blown m3 to a 335 why not compare it to the single turbo upgraded 335 that runs 10.8@131
For me there is no replacement for displacement

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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my friend has a 2011 dct m3 and my other friend has a stock 2012 335i from a dig up to 90 the m3 is spelling turbo smoke.
How can that be? Looking at the info on dragtimes, stock M3's show quicker ET's and faster traps at the 1/8 mile mark by a good margin.

Just asking here cause I know you have plenty of experience.
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I'm not really trying to butthug an M3, but here is a "race" with a V1 tune (V5 is out but I don't think it's going to make up for a 3 car difference)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SfjAKOUyZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3nnoWh9pU


A lot more proper than some of the terrible "street" videos I've seen on YouTube.





For me there is no replacement for displacement
thats a roll race i was talking about a dig or low roll.

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How can that be? Looking at the info on dragtimes, stock M3's show quicker ET's and faster traps at the 1/8 mile mark by a good margin.

Just asking here cause I know you have plenty of experience.
the 335 is xi
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does that 335 in the video have a single turbo upgrade?
335 is tuned, M3 is totally stock You act like it's racing a blown M3
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335 is tuned, M3 is totally stock You act like it's racing a blown M3
i got confused about what we were talking about.

stock m3 and stock 335 or a 335 with chip from a mid to high roll the m3 will win. from a dig m3 has no chance to pass it untill 90ish i seen it and
m3 is dct and 335 auto xi
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i got confused about what we were talking about.

stock m3 and stock 335 or a 335 with chip from a mid to high roll the 335 will win. from a dig m3 has no chance to pass it untill 90ish i seen it and
m3 is dct and 335 auto xi
You can type whatever you want but the video shows otherwise There's even another video of the 335 getting a 3/4 car start and the stock M3 reels it in and puts another car or two on it. M5Board does a proper job of comparisons opposed to the other crappy YouTube street races out there with bad drivers and cars that probably lack maintenance, as the M5Board guys have a lot of "funds" to keep them in top shape.

IMO it's also stupid to compare a C63 to M3. M3 is for track abuse, C63 is for street abuse
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You can type whatever you want but the video shows otherwise There's even another video of the 335 getting a 3/4 car start and the stock M3 reels it in and puts another car or two on it.

IMO it's also stupid to compare a C63 to M3. M3 is for track abuse, C63 is for street abuse
my typing is off today sry about that i edit it the part.

you 100% rite about the trach street thing. for straight line AMG holds it down for twist and turns M all the way.
i had a few BMW's and one was a M. lack of TQ is what killed it lets hope the new ones will be better since they getting FI.
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No I didn't know. Actually I don't know anything about BMW. I just hate it. I'll never drive one.

I just assumed that a M3 is faster than a 335..

The attitude of 335 drivers makes want to vomit, specially the ones my age. They buy them used at 25K, thinking that they have the best car around and spending their time trying to race everyone around. This is how I see BMW and 350z drivers.


It's the best when you pit 335i vs M3 drivers because they think speed is everything. The 335i's are faster than the M3's around here haha.

They think they handle better than a Porsche 996TT and can out-accelerate an F430. It's ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by seo
You can type whatever you want but the video shows otherwise There's even another video of the 335 getting a 3/4 car start and the stock M3 reels it in and puts another car or two on it. M5Board does a proper job of comparisons opposed to the other crappy YouTube street races out there with bad drivers and cars that probably lack maintenance, as the M5Board guys have a lot of "funds" to keep them in top shape.

IMO it's also stupid to compare a C63 to M3. M3 is for track abuse, C63 is for street abuse
Actually M5 board has been known to rig the races in favor of BMW.

Gustav the founder of those videos and m5board is banned from MBWORLD too.

But it's been a while since then.

I think it was with the W211 E55 vs M5..

Lately, it's been like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=0QNxSTNQyoA#!
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