C63 Black Series Owners- need input... possibly dump my E63TT wagon for a BS?
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Remember what I said just a day or two ago: Vic, no one changes car more than you do.
It's for sure that, amongst your collection, nothing gets more attention than the GTR. Other cars can hide under the radar due to the obvious reason of having a docile counterpart. Not the GTR.
Obviously, the E wagon is more practical, but the CLS's design is unbeatable. I'm not sure about the handling between the two, but I thought I have read many times that E63 handles better than CLS63; although both are GT so neither outhandles the C63, esp the BS. If I have to pick, I would keep the wagon and lose the CLS.
It's for sure that, amongst your collection, nothing gets more attention than the GTR. Other cars can hide under the radar due to the obvious reason of having a docile counterpart. Not the GTR.
Obviously, the E wagon is more practical, but the CLS's design is unbeatable. I'm not sure about the handling between the two, but I thought I have read many times that E63 handles better than CLS63; although both are GT so neither outhandles the C63, esp the BS. If I have to pick, I would keep the wagon and lose the CLS.
If I get the BS - the cls will not leave- the wagon may.
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BS in a heartbeat!!!
As cool as your wagon is.... the BS is just on a different level. It is a stunning automobile and while maybe not quite as fast in a straight line, it is by far more of a drivers car with a visceral appeal that the E63 TT will never approach.
Do it or your membership here could be in jeopardy.
As cool as your wagon is.... the BS is just on a different level. It is a stunning automobile and while maybe not quite as fast in a straight line, it is by far more of a drivers car with a visceral appeal that the E63 TT will never approach.
Do it or your membership here could be in jeopardy.
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As a side note, I have a part time gig teaching students at one of our universities. During a break, a couple of weeks ago my students asked me what I drove.. I told them a C63 .... the amount of blank stares was actually surpising. I kid you not, in the class of 30ish students, one guy said nice car! ... later I found out he actually had a 2013 c63 in white ordered lol... anyways, these are senior year students and they had no clue... most prob never heard of AMG, and for sure a BS. We are just a small online community compared to the vast public out there.
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I drove the BS two nights ago, probably 30+ minutes. Great car, really good daily driver as it's super comfortable with linear power.
Vic, If you're interested in a red C63 BS fully loaded with aero/carbon/track, let me know. I know of one for sale.
Also, I maybe interested in your wagon! PM me
Vic, If you're interested in a red C63 BS fully loaded with aero/carbon/track, let me know. I know of one for sale.
Also, I maybe interested in your wagon! PM me
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Also I know your 458 is much faster than the BS but how does the two cars compare handling wise?
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i have 350 miles on my BS now..still hovering around 4500 RPM and no full throttle, but it is as advertised. A great road car and the standard features included in the package make for an incomparable value in today's market
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Driving the CBS is like driving a 997.1 GT3, but with 4 seats and much better creature comforts. Tough to compare it with a much bigger sedan that has to be comfortable as well. That's the best analogy I can come up with.
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I've spent a lot of time with the '12 CLS63 with PP, it feels great compared to the E63, but compared to the CBS? It's a boat.
Driving the CBS is like driving a 997.1 GT3, but with 4 seats and much better creature comforts. Tough to compare it with a much bigger sedan that has to be comfortable as well. That's the best analogy I can come up with.
Driving the CBS is like driving a 997.1 GT3, but with 4 seats and much better creature comforts. Tough to compare it with a much bigger sedan that has to be comfortable as well. That's the best analogy I can come up with.
thanks to all for their posts too.
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drop the wagon, get a white BS, just wait and the right one will pop up! also when you are ready to part with the wagon, you have a buyer here located in Newport Beach waiting.
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What are your goal with the new car Vic? If you are after handling & sound, I'd rock the 997.2 GT3RS over the BS but if you dont want to row gears, then the BS is the clear choice after you lose your AMG wagon. 
It's nice to have your problem bro.
It's nice to have your problem bro.
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The E-wagon is amazing, but I think you're making the right choice in the C-BS.
The CLS63 you have is absolute perfection, no way I'd part with that.
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Ok guys deal all but done--- wagon ... sold!!!!
Ill probably pick up the black tonight. Here are some weird or not so weird questions for current owners:
The exhaust pattern is similar to my W212 N/A E63- header, pre cat, post cat, resonator, muffler. The car has amazing stock sound but I want just a little bit more. Should I X pipe the post cats and straight pipe the resonator or will that be too much sound?
How do I turn the alarm on to make a chirp when its on or off?
Any ECU tunes for this 507hp car!! Can we do the ODBII thing like normal C63?
And finally thanks for all the input- the car drives amazingly (is that a word?) and the sound is bliss. I could have got a GTR Black Edition but its just fast and turns great- this car is a sexy beast and the experience in just 5 miles of driving was a clincher for me.
Ill probably pick up the black tonight. Here are some weird or not so weird questions for current owners:
The exhaust pattern is similar to my W212 N/A E63- header, pre cat, post cat, resonator, muffler. The car has amazing stock sound but I want just a little bit more. Should I X pipe the post cats and straight pipe the resonator or will that be too much sound?
How do I turn the alarm on to make a chirp when its on or off?
Any ECU tunes for this 507hp car!! Can we do the ODBII thing like normal C63?
And finally thanks for all the input- the car drives amazingly (is that a word?) and the sound is bliss. I could have got a GTR Black Edition but its just fast and turns great- this car is a sexy beast and the experience in just 5 miles of driving was a clincher for me.
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Hey Vic,
Congrats on the BS. You obviously have better sources than many on this board who have been searching for this ride. I would be curious to hear some comparisons to the GTR.
Enjoy
Congrats on the BS. You obviously have better sources than many on this board who have been searching for this ride. I would be curious to hear some comparisons to the GTR.
Enjoy
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I'm a little late to the party to cast a vote, but I would have voted for the Black Great choice, great car.
BTW what exhaust mods do you have on your 997? I'm thinking about picking one up but they seem so quiet.
Great choice, great car.BTW what exhaust mods do you have on your 997? I'm thinking about picking one up but they seem so quiet.
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I'm actually you held out with the wagon for this long. Nothing against it as I LOVE what you did with the wagon. Absolute exquisite taste and I wouldn't expect anything less from you. Yet, with your collection, I think the BS would fit right in. Now if I had to give up one of the cars, it would either be the IS or the wagon.
I know you won't disappoint with the decision. Can't wait to see the BS!
***Congrats my friend! Let's see how long this one lasts...***
Nothing against it as I LOVE what you did with the wagon. Absolute exquisite taste and I wouldn't expect anything less from you. Yet, with your collection, I think the BS would fit right in. Now if I had to give up one of the cars, it would either be the IS or the wagon.I know you won't disappoint with the decision. Can't wait to see the BS!
***Congrats my friend! Let's see how long this one lasts...
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Settings menu in the car. Settings --> Vehicle --> Acoustic Lock
If you have the track pack, wait till you take it to the track and get some temps into the Dunlops. The front end grip gets a bit stronger than the rears, and the car really moves around corners.
Congrats!
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wow, just wow and congrats, obviously pics asap and im sure u already called HRE to have them set up something sick for u
amazing how fast your car turnover is...lol..how many miles were on the wagon, and did you trade it or sell private.
next yr when the cls 63 shooting brake comes out im sure u will get that, then u willl have your cls and wagon fix all in one
amazing how fast your car turnover is...lol..how many miles were on the wagon, and did you trade it or sell private.
next yr when the cls 63 shooting brake comes out im sure u will get that, then u willl have your cls and wagon fix all in one
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wow, just wow and congrats, obviously pics asap and im sure u already called HRE to have them set up something sick for u
amazing how fast your car turnover is...lol..how many miles were on the wagon, and did you trade it or sell private.
next yr when the cls 63 shooting brake comes out im sure u will get that, then u willl have your cls and wagon fix all in one
amazing how fast your car turnover is...lol..how many miles were on the wagon, and did you trade it or sell private.
next yr when the cls 63 shooting brake comes out im sure u will get that, then u willl have your cls and wagon fix all in one
