MHP question...
Just keep this in mind and it might be worth an inspection if you have sent him your ECU.

It is very clear that he used a large flat screwdriver to pry open the sealant instead of using a local heat from a light torch to "help" release the sealant as it is prescribed by Mercedes' approved methods of separating the case if needed.
I remember a post earlier on this thread where FedEx had used a screwdriver to damage a circuit board, then resealed the package before continuing to ship it to the customer. Hmmmmm....
Just keep this in mind and it might be worth an inspection if you have sent him your ECU.
I remember a post earlier on this thread where FedEx had used a screwdriver to damage a circuit board, then resealed the package before continuing to ship it to the customer. Hmmmmm....

Didn't you mention that MHP told you one of your earlier ECU's that you sent was damaged or no good? Makes you wonder what happened to that one..... The number of stories with MHP are mind boggling.. I have been on many car forums over the last 15 years and every now and then would hear of an isolated incident or two with a vendor. But NEVER anything close to the scale that has been posted on the problems with MHP. Boy, if that doesnt scream stay away......
I wish you well OP, and hope you get your car running well. You might want to put a condom on those cams before you put them in your motor.. No telling where they have been....
Last edited by immelman; Apr 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM.
At least that is our experience so far.
A little research has revealed another thread where TopSpeed fixed another MHP tune and the ECU was damaged.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-new-tune.html
Last edited by AutoTech Racing; Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22 PM.
At least that is our experience so far.
A little research has revealed another thread where TopSpeed fixed another MHP tune and the ECU was damaged.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-new-tune.html
you know that thread is from 6 months ago but 0-60 brought it back to life from the dead right
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Very satisfied with it. Thankful weistec did the tuning for them now that I have read all the horror stories. Trying to find out what the best tune for the C63 is? Thoughts?
up here, we have EC local and they flash it. Can get it done in minutes and the ecu doesnt get touched. I'm thinking of getting a tune myself and performance from the tune is one of many factors that ppl look at when deciding on a 'best' tune....
The original tune was horribly lean with huge drops and surges in fueling depending upon the load values given. The dangerous part of such was that it would never get richer than 13.2:1 at WOT and this was a program designed for nitrous use? The original program also had too much timing which was why we were getting elevated engine temps during sustained high rpm use.
Our focus for this new tune was 93 octane only and to make as much power as possible over a wide rpm range... We achieved that first goal with perfection! The second goal was to achieve a tune that would not remove performance by the ecu pulling timing out during sustained high rpm use and to keep the same power levels in each gear, not just during a 5th gear dyno pull... And we achieved that goal. The results are a very smooth power delivery with no spikes in the power application to the tires in any gear, drivability and reliability. The torque curve is putting down in excess of 426 lb/ft of torque from 3500 rpm to redline without falling off. I will post the graphs after One Lap begins so as to not share all our cards to our competitors who are focused on our efforts.
Were the cams worth it...? They do help make more power on the top end and to produce a flatter curve but for the money, no. If we had a baseline on the same dyno before they were installed and with proper tuning, we could show a much better analysis of their value... Good or bad. Since we do not have such info, I'm inclined to say I would have spent the money on a supercharger for sure.
The original tune was horribly lean with huge drops and surges in fueling depending upon the load values given. The dangerous part of such was that it would never get richer than 13.2:1 at WOT and this was a program designed for nitrous use? The original program also had too much timing which was why we were getting elevated engine temps during sustained high rpm use.
Our focus for this new tune was 93 octane only and to make as much power as possible over a wide rpm range... We achieved that first goal with perfection! The second goal was to achieve a tune that would not remove performance by the ecu pulling timing out during sustained high rpm use and to keep the same power levels in each gear, not just during a 5th gear dyno pull... And we achieved that goal. The results are a very smooth power delivery with no spikes in the power application to the tires in any gear, drivability and reliability. The torque curve is putting down in excess of 426 lb/ft of torque from 3500 rpm to redline without falling off. I will post the graphs after One Lap begins so as to not share all our cards to our competitors who are focused on our efforts.
Were the cams worth it...? They do help make more power on the top end and to produce a flatter curve but for the money, no. If we had a baseline on the same dyno before they were installed and with proper tuning, we could show a much better analysis of their value... Good or bad. Since we do not have such info, I'm inclined to say I would have spent the money on a supercharger for sure.
That is some crazy stuff. Considering all the drama surrounded by MHP and their previous tuner I am very surprised Weistec would associate themselves with MHP. Even letting MHP resell their SC kits.

I am also surprised that Dodger and Keith were able to keep it so quiet all this time.
So Andy's V4 tune was a Weistec tune? That is just priceless if its true.
Last edited by propain; Apr 21, 2013 at 08:54 AM.

I am also surprised that Dodger and Keith were able to keep it so quiet all this time.
So Andy's V4 tune was a Weistec tune? That is just priceless if its true.

I have to say I 100% agree. This will most likely be the end for MHP.
Does Weistec have any resellers or representation on the East Coast?
I have to say I 100% agree. This will most likely be the end for MHP.
Does Weistec have any resellers or representation on the East Coast?
Are they deleting these threads on PL? I can't find anything from MHP on that site other than a SLS new world record thread from MHP yesterday.
I have to say all this BS and drama in the MB world needs to stop. High end cars with ghetto service. Hopefully Weistec will continue this transparency and not deal with shady companies with bad reputations. Weistec doesn't need that BS. They have made a big name for themselves and in a very short amount of time based on their experience,professionalism and big accomplishments. Hopefully the days of drama are over now for the MB mod world and Weistec and other honest companies continue to provide honest service.
Hopefully Weistec gets something on the EC so I can try them out and drink some of that punch you guys on the WC have been drinking.
Last edited by propain; Apr 21, 2013 at 09:34 AM.
Are they deleting these threads on PL? I can't find anything from MHP on that site other than a SLS new world record thread from MHP yesterday.
I have to say all this BS and drama in the MB world needs to stop. High end cars with ghetto service. Hopefully Weistec will continue this transparency and not deal with shady companies with bad reputations. Weistec doesn't need that BS. They have made a big name for themselves and in a very short amount of time based on their experience,professionalism and big accomplishments. Hopefully the days of drama are over now for the MB mod world and Weistec and other honest companies continue to provide honest service.
Hopefully Weistec gets something on the EC so I can try them out and drink some of that punch you guys on the WC have been drinking.
Nice, I didn't know he was moving forward with it. He doesn't mess around and has good access to MIR rentals. Should be an interesting fall season.
Good luck getting into the 9's. You guys are right there. Which track?
Last edited by propain; Apr 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM.






