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2012 E63 AMG
I ran my Wiestec C BS at the Chicago half mile. I went 164mph...tied with the AMS E63 biturbo for highest trapping MB/AMG at the event, funny part is my C only puts down 667whp and weighs over 4100 pounds and AMS is claimng their E puts down 787whp 
yet trapped the same as me. A few people including myself called them out on various forums about it then they started with all the excuses like "ummm, we went into limp mode" and "we hit our brakes before finish line" (ya right lol) and "we dialed back the boost" (ya, becuase everyone dials back their boost for a top speed event). AMS jumped into a pound they will not be able to swim in, my opinion they like the "AMG Tax" aspect of this market and figured they would jump in and hope their name and what they have done with their GT-R's fools a few people. I can tell you they did not fool anyone at the event, they were both the heros and the laughing stock of the event, their Alpha Omega GT-R went 214mph which made them heros but everyone was keeping an eye on their E63 after all the hype they post the week before about it making 787whp and it only trapped at 164. Weistec claims their own E63 Biturbo only makes about 730whp yet it was trapping at over 170mph at the Shift Sector 1/2 mile event a month and a half ago and was beating me by 3 cars so someone please explain why I was trapping the same speed as the AMS car that is making a claimed 50whp more than the Weistec car?????
I am thinking about buying an E63 S 4-matic just so I can embarass them, considering their shop is 15 minutes from my house and they test at the same track I do, bumping into them at the track one day is ineveidable.
yet trapped the same as me. A few people including myself called them out on various forums about it then they started with all the excuses like "ummm, we went into limp mode" and "we hit our brakes before finish line" (ya right lol) and "we dialed back the boost" (ya, becuase everyone dials back their boost for a top speed event). AMS jumped into a pound they will not be able to swim in, my opinion they like the "AMG Tax" aspect of this market and figured they would jump in and hope their name and what they have done with their GT-R's fools a few people. I can tell you they did not fool anyone at the event, they were both the heros and the laughing stock of the event, their Alpha Omega GT-R went 214mph which made them heros but everyone was keeping an eye on their E63 after all the hype they post the week before about it making 787whp and it only trapped at 164. Weistec claims their own E63 Biturbo only makes about 730whp yet it was trapping at over 170mph at the Shift Sector 1/2 mile event a month and a half ago and was beating me by 3 cars so someone please explain why I was trapping the same speed as the AMS car that is making a claimed 50whp more than the Weistec car????? I am thinking about buying an E63 S 4-matic just so I can embarass them, considering their shop is 15 minutes from my house and they test at the same track I do, bumping into them at the track one day is ineveidable.
In fact your edited your post on the 11th and added this:
One more thing, I just want to go on record and say I am not bashing you guys because I am a Weistec "fan boy", I have only commented on two threads both pertaining to your E63 biturbo on what I have percieved as discrepencies . I have not posted in any of your Alpha C threads or CLS threads here or on any other forum. I guess what I am saying is that I am not on a bash AMS fling, truly not my intention with any of my posts.
We have stated countless times that we have NOT run the car at that 787 level and that we couldnt due to a load trip that was just recently rectified. I don't know how many more times I have to say this. The Shift-Sector Event was also a rolling start event and I have not been able to find any published results nor any details on the layout or how long the acceleration area was. To compare our car at this event to another car at a rolling start event is not even a fair comparison.
laughing stock? to whom? Marcin from speedriven (an old friend of ours) actually had nice things to say about our car considering the power level we were running it at. In fact nearly everyone that has talked to us about the car since then has been more than impressed.
We invite you to buy an AWD car or whatever car and should the opportunity present itself we would be more than happy to run you. I really wish I could understand what problem you have with us. From what I have seen we have been more forthcoming than any other major tuner on this site showing dynos, 60-130's 1/4 miles, mod lists, fuel used etc. You seem to think our prior experience with other makes and models doesn't transfer to this platform. We beg to differ and in the coming weeks and months we will do our best to prove that to you.
Please stop with the hating... it's completely unnecessary.
Eric
Last edited by AMS_Performance; Jun 13, 2013 at 02:10 PM.
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JRcart was is your deal? We have explained this to you time and time again yet you continue to bring this up for no reason other than to try and take shots at us...unfounded shots. We had a long conversation about this not more that 48 hours ago that was well documented here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...63-vs-zr1.html All seemed well but I guess you were just buying time before you can take another shot at us. I know you haven't forgotten. My only guess is you didnt think we would see your post in this section...
In fact your edited your post on the 11th and added this:
In
I guess you changed your mind about not "bashing" us???
We have stated countless times that we have NOT run the car at that 787 level and that wejd couldnt due to a load trip that was just recently rectified. I don't know how many more times I have to say this. The Shift-Sector Event was also a rolling start event and I have not been able to find any published results nor any details on the layout or how long the acceleration area was. To compare our car at this event to another car at a rolling start event is not even a fair comparison.
laughing stock? to whom? Marcin from speedriven (an old friend of ours) actually had nice things to say about our car considering the power level we were running it at. In fact nearly everyone that has talked to us about the car since then has been more than impressed.
We invite you to buy an AWD car or whatever car and should the opportunity present itself we would be more than happy to run you. I really wish I could understand what problem you have with us. From what I have seen we have been more forthcoming than any other major tuner on this site showing dynos, 60-130's 1/4 miles, mod lists, fuel used etc. You seem to think our prior experience with other makes and models doesn't transfer to this platform. We beg to differ and in the coming weeks and months we will do our best to prove that to you.
Please stop with the hating... it's completely unnecessary.
Eric
In fact your edited your post on the 11th and added this:
In
I guess you changed your mind about not "bashing" us???
We have stated countless times that we have NOT run the car at that 787 level and that wejd couldnt due to a load trip that was just recently rectified. I don't know how many more times I have to say this. The Shift-Sector Event was also a rolling start event and I have not been able to find any published results nor any details on the layout or how long the acceleration area was. To compare our car at this event to another car at a rolling start event is not even a fair comparison.
laughing stock? to whom? Marcin from speedriven (an old friend of ours) actually had nice things to say about our car considering the power level we were running it at. In fact nearly everyone that has talked to us about the car since then has been more than impressed.
We invite you to buy an AWD car or whatever car and should the opportunity present itself we would be more than happy to run you. I really wish I could understand what problem you have with us. From what I have seen we have been more forthcoming than any other major tuner on this site showing dynos, 60-130's 1/4 miles, mod lists, fuel used etc. You seem to think our prior experience with other makes and models doesn't transfer to this platform. We beg to differ and in the coming weeks and months we will do our best to prove that to you.
Please stop with the hating... it's completely unnecessary.
Eric
Bottom line your car is not producing 787whp on chassis dyno. Let's settle it at the track.prove me wrong.
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2012 E63 AMG
Laughing stock? That would be every Benz owner at the event that read about all your hype before the event and you 787whp claims. People were expecting big numbers and you guys tripped on your dicks. I am not the only one saying it, people have posted in your threads saying the same thing.
Bottom line your car is not producing 787whp on chassis dyno. Let's settle it at the track.prove me wrong.
Bottom line your car is not producing 787whp on chassis dyno. Let's settle it at the track.prove me wrong.
We have already stated we would run you at the track should the opportunity present itself. Are we supposed to stop what we are doing and meet you in the park for a showdown???
Clearly our existence in this market gets under your skin and ill just never understand why. We will see you at the next event.
Eric
Last edited by AMS_Performance; Jun 13, 2013 at 03:26 PM.
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C63 Coupe
I ran my Wiestec C BS at the Chicago half mile. I went 164mph...tied with the AMS E63 biturbo for highest trapping MB/AMG at the event, funny part is my C only puts down 667whp and weighs over 4100 pounds and AMS is claimng their E puts down 787whp yet trapped the same as me. A few people including myself called them out on various forums about it then they started with all the excuses like "ummm, we went into limp mode" and "we hit our brakes before finish line" (ya right lol) and "we dialed back the boost" (ya, becuase everyone dials back their boost for a top speed event). AMS jumped into a pound they will not be able to swim in, my opinion they like the "AMG Tax" aspect of this market and figured they would jump in and hope their name and what they have done with their GT-R's fools a few people. I can tell you they did not fool anyone at the event, they were both the heros and the laughing stock of the event, their Alpha Omega GT-R went 214mph which made them heros but everyone was keeping an eye on their E63 after all the hype they post the week before about it making 787whp and it only trapped at 164. Weistec claims their own E63 Biturbo only makes about 730whp yet it was trapping at over 170mph at the Shift Sector 1/2 mile event a month and a half ago and was beating me by 3 cars so someone please explain why I was trapping the same speed as the AMS car that is making a claimed 50whp more than the Weistec car?????
I am thinking about buying an E63 S 4-matic just so I can embarass them, considering their shop is 15 minutes from my house and they test at the same track I do, bumping into them at the track one day is ineveidable.
yet trapped the same as me. A few people including myself called them out on various forums about it then they started with all the excuses like "ummm, we went into limp mode" and "we hit our brakes before finish line" (ya right lol) and "we dialed back the boost" (ya, becuase everyone dials back their boost for a top speed event). AMS jumped into a pound they will not be able to swim in, my opinion they like the "AMG Tax" aspect of this market and figured they would jump in and hope their name and what they have done with their GT-R's fools a few people. I can tell you they did not fool anyone at the event, they were both the heros and the laughing stock of the event, their Alpha Omega GT-R went 214mph which made them heros but everyone was keeping an eye on their E63 after all the hype they post the week before about it making 787whp and it only trapped at 164. Weistec claims their own E63 Biturbo only makes about 730whp yet it was trapping at over 170mph at the Shift Sector 1/2 mile event a month and a half ago and was beating me by 3 cars so someone please explain why I was trapping the same speed as the AMS car that is making a claimed 50whp more than the Weistec car????? I am thinking about buying an E63 S 4-matic just so I can embarass them, considering their shop is 15 minutes from my house and they test at the same track I do, bumping into them at the track one day is ineveidable.
But i remember you pulling pretty good on the weistec E63 at the no fly zone event uptop with your C63BS. Did they make big power changes since then? To go from losing by 2 cars to winning by 3cars is a big difference
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Im not sure about the whole AMS situation so i will leave that alone.
But i remember you pulling pretty good on the weistec E63 at the no fly zone event uptop with your C63BS. Did they make big power changes since then? To go from losing by 2 cars to winning by 3cars is a big difference
But i remember you pulling pretty good on the weistec E63 at the no fly zone event uptop with your C63BS. Did they make big power changes since then? To go from losing by 2 cars to winning by 3cars is a big difference
