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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Well my friends, the time has come for more "practical" decisions to be made as more level headed thinking has prevailed. As a 23 year old I need to start saving money for life and where it takes me so some rearranging has to happen.

The driveway/garage currently has an 01' 740iL, 06' 760i, 09 135, and my 09 c63. 3 out of the 4 of those are going. The 135 is what is staying.

Here's the deal. Both 7 series are being driven by my brother, 1 in his name and 1 in his dads. And, my c63 is going out the door as well. The new plan, I am giving my brother the 1 series in exchange for the two 7 series and trading in the 09' c63 for.... A facelift

I know, you were worried. I also know I'm going from 2 cars to 1, but that cuts insurance and maintenance costs greatly and oh yea, 1 less car payment so I'm paying less than 4 figures/month on cars. I also see it as a second chance and a fresh slate on a newer untouched c63. I will also end up freeing some more money (if I want) to dig a little deeper into modifying. I'm excited to get back the majority of the warranty I bought as well so it shouldn't take long to get the newer c63 to where this one sits as is. Also, I'll be able to send in the ADV wheel to get fixed/replaced.

Now comes the big question... White or Black? Decisions decisions..

Cosmetic vendors be prepared, you'll be getting orders from me in hopefully a couple weeks time.

Final note, call me crazy... But the 09' headbolts did end up influencing the decision as well. I love the facelift look too which helps and mine was mechanically sound, just the risk to me wasn't worth it.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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you'll love the facelift C63. I'd go with black, just looks sinister in that color.

good luck mate.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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^ Thanks. I have black now. After my first black car I vowed never to own another because of what shows up on the paint. Since then 2 of my 3 cars were black...

My car now with the wheels I have looks awesome IMO and is black, but, it does show imperfections on the paint.

I am hoping that with the pro rated money I get back from my current c63 that I'll be able to lower the car, tints, and get the wheel fixed up. Maybe get crazy with a tune as well.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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I also got the chance to take some see ya later shots of the car. I still have it, but it is a car forum so have some (IMO) eye ****. Also, consider this a preview of what is to come on the facelift.



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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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can't go wrong with black or white. though if you choose white make sure it's diamond white. The pearl flakes in the paint is to die for!
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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Your 09 looks sweet. Looking forward to seeing the new one!
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Once you go black, you never go back. At least that's what I hear.

You really can't go wrong with either color. Black gives it a really aggressive look which suits the car, but white gives a more elegant look; especially with the diamond white.

Good luck with your decision! And pics to come as well when you get it!
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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nice man. upgrading the to facelifted version would definitely work. for a sec i thought you were picking the 135 to keep over the c63

one final road trip with this c63 before you trade it in?
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congrats, that's something to look forward to. just know that magnetite black metallic and black are very different! also i wouldn't recommend ADV. too many horror stories for the price you pay.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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nice man. upgrading the to facelifted version would definitely work. for a sec i thought you were picking the 135 to keep over the c63

one final road trip with this c63 before you trade it in?
Nope, I worked it out so the 135i stays and the c63. 135i is staying in my name, but my brother/his dad are paying for it. Free car? Yes please. They are basically paying me 500/month to rent it haha.

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congrats, that's something to look forward to. just know that magnetite black metallic and black are very different! also i wouldn't recommend ADV. too many horror stories for the price you pay.
Thanks for the tips on the black. Already have the ADV's so I don't have to go through waiting for the wheels to get made. That being said, I will be sending one back in for repair. I've already spoken with ADV and they were fast with responses and informative. Granted I'm sure that is usually how it all starts, however, I am not going to bad mouth for no reason. I'll be cautious though for sure.
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Dilemma.

2012+ E63 or 2012 C63.

I can trade in my 09 c63, 09 135, and 06 760i for the E63

Or

Trade my 09 c63, 09 135 for the C63

Decisions decisions
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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lol.. im sure you'll know what to decide..
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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I guess I could have worse problems.

For the E... apparently my rear wheels are already a good size for the car, however, I'd have to send in the fronts to get new faces machined for the offsets. Then again, I have to get 1 wheel fixed anyway.

Going today to talk to the dealer and figure everything out.
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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you can make some crazy power with the 5.5biturbo...tough call, but can't go wrong either way!
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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E63, it's more powerful and at the end of the day.. you already had a C63 for a while... it's nice to change!
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be sure to drive both the E and the C - from what I've read the E could feel like a bit of a boat compared to the much sportier C. I know it's not the same, but the E55/E63/CLS variants I drove all felt a bit boring and floaty compared to the C63. A member here went from a C63 to the bi-turbo E only to go back to a C63 again, can't remember his ID at the moment.
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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you can make some crazy power with the 5.5biturbo...tough call, but can't go wrong either way!
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E63, it's more powerful and at the end of the day.. you already had a C63 for a while... it's nice to change!
I've had the c, yea, but that doesn't take away from how much I love it and love the 6.3 sound. The thing that makes my trigger finger itchy on the E is that 5.5tt power potential. Tune = 600+/600+ Ummm ok yes please.

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be sure to drive both the E and the C - from what I've read the E could feel like a bit of a boat compared to the much sportier C. I know it's not the same, but the E55/E63/CLS variants I drove all felt a bit boring and floaty compared to the C63. A member here went from a C63 to the bi-turbo E only to go back to a C63 again, can't remember his ID at the moment.
Unfortunately I can't go to the dealer and say let me drive an E63. Why? Because the dealer here very very rarely show cases AMG models or has them on the lot.

I am a little concerned with the big floaty feel of the E which is obviously noticeable over the C. But the power of that 5.5 grabs me.

I think as I wait to have all my trade values appraised I've made a decision to keep it to the C. I'm 23... I can just get an E later in life anyway when they come down in price etc. Right now my goal in this whole car rearrangement is to lower my overall payments and save money. Also, I won't have to worry about maintenance/modify two+ cars at once. That being said, maybe someday I can become a crowd favorite on the interwebs with the places I see myself going. I'm not jumping at cutting my roof out and replace it with CF and have custom carbon ceramics brakes like dads, but, I aim to have a true head turner.

Or, 5.5 swap in a new C63? Hey now
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Also, much of my car came to me as is. I've literally added wheels. Call me crazy but I feel like I don't have as much of a relationship with the car because of that. I love having a fresh slate and doing things myself.
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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E63 hands down the potential with the v8 TT and great looking car....plus you alrdy own c63 change up
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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But then it comes down to saving money. I can still spend less on an e63 than those car payments, but not much less.
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It's an interesting dilemma. I was in my local dealership a couple of weeks back (getting a TPMS module replaced...), and while my C63 was in the shop, I was checking out both an E63 and CLS63 ('13s). A buddy of mine in Germany has a CLS63 and raves about his, and I have to admit it's a gorgeous car. The E63 is good-looking...the CLS63 is simply stunning.

Somehow though, being a hooligan in a C63 Coupe doesn't feel quite so bad....like the car is meant for it, somewhat.

Whenever I drive an E63 (haven't driven the CLS63, though I have driven the CLS550) it just seems like I should be cruising, and not hammering on the throttle. The E-Class makes me feel like a car built for taking clients out for dinner, or cruising to the office, etc. When I jump into my C63, I look forward to burying my foot in the carpet and hearing the thunder. Driving like MB and AMG intended it to be driven.

With the E-Class (whether it's an E63 or E350), I just want to settle inside and enjoy the serenity of the journey, and not the insanity of the thrust it can generate. In that perspective (and my opinion alone), the E63 seems almost like a waste.

That being said, my other car is a 510 HP Range Rover, so Pot --> Kettle and all of that. But sitting in the Rangie doesn't make me feel like jumping on the throttle either, despite the fact that it's fully capable of a sub 6-second 0-60 MPH sprint.

I want an E63...I just don't want one badly enough to swap my C63 for it (or the RR, for that matter, as it has it's own qualities).

If I was 23 again, I'd probably lean towards the C63. It seems like the right "fit", personality-wise for a young lad. It's basically a modern-day muscle car, and the 6.2L sounds much better than the 5.5TT.

The E63 is a hot-rod for old guys (like me) who need 4-doors, and a big trunk, and we mostly drive it around sedately with our wives and families in tow (hopefully just one wife and one family each). Then on the occasional early drive into the office at 5:00 AM, we let the car rip down the highway to remind us of why we bought it, and the fact that we were once 23 year old (young?) men as well.

Personally, I'd say go with the C63. It's the right combination of luxury and muscle car for a 23 year-old.



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^ Intelligent and meaningful insight. Thank you.

If a new CLS63 was in the picture we wouldn't be having this conversation. That car is amazing.

I am going with the C. Cheaper and I know the car. I love it, saves money, so fun, etc. E will happen if/when a wife and family does.
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