FS: 2009 C63 AMG Calcite White *Toronto/GTA*
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2010 C300, 2013 C63 AMG
Have you listed it on autotrader?
One of our family friend's told my dad that he would have a really good shot at selling his car if he posted a 2 week ad in the Toronto Sun, and that it's pretty cheap too (My dad is trying to get rid of his CL600 now that he moved up and doesn't need it/want to pay for it anymore).
Once again, good luck with the sale!
One of our family friend's told my dad that he would have a really good shot at selling his car if he posted a 2 week ad in the Toronto Sun, and that it's pretty cheap too (My dad is trying to get rid of his CL600 now that he moved up and doesn't need it/want to pay for it anymore).
Once again, good luck with the sale!
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Yea its on trader as well, autotrader.ca is free for us anyways. I am just shocked to see lack of interest in this car, perhaps it could be winter approaching. Its priced one of the lowest in the country given condition & mileage or maybe I am more pissed that the GT3 deal fell through.
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Yea its on trader as well, autotrader.ca is free for us anyways. I am just shocked to see lack of interest in this car, perhaps it could be winter approaching. Its priced one of the lowest in the country given condition & mileage or maybe I am more pissed that the GT3 deal fell through.
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Its a good looking car, and here in Canada thats a pretty good price. Just stick to your guns. Although most anyone can appreciate a sharp white car, not everyone will throw down on one. No car looks cleaner longer than a white one though. Says the guy who is driving his umpteenth black car, even tho he knows better.
You just need the right buyer. Keep on keepin on and he/she will show up.
Did you sell those rims? Cos man, that was a seriously hot look and you might want to slap em back on.
You just need the right buyer. Keep on keepin on and he/she will show up.
Did you sell those rims? Cos man, that was a seriously hot look and you might want to slap em back on.
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Its a good looking car, and here in Canada thats a pretty good price. Just stick to your guns. Although most anyone can appreciate a sharp white car, not everyone will throw down on one. No car looks cleaner longer than a white one though. Says the guy who is driving his umpteenth black car, even tho he knows better.
You just need the right buyer. Keep on keepin on and he/she will show up.
Did you sell those rims? Cos man, that was a seriously hot look and you might want to slap em back on.
You just need the right buyer. Keep on keepin on and he/she will show up.
Did you sell those rims? Cos man, that was a seriously hot look and you might want to slap em back on.
Yea given current economy not alot of people can afford to write a $40k cheque, they will rather go to MB dealer and pay $50k for the same car so they can do monthly payments.
I'll indeed keep on keeping on..One thing I have learned being in the car & bike game its all about patience & not getting desperate eventually right buyer comes. I have had a many Ducati's similarly its a small market but eventually the right buyer comes who appreciates a true clean, well maintained vehicle & pays the right price.
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Hey Bud,
I was the guy that messaged you about the car, you are absolutely right about not many people wanting to put out 40+ K on the vehicle and finance it themselves.
I was in the exact same position, I could of taken out the 45K and bought yours, as I like knowing the previous owner of the vehicle.
But I simply couldn't justify spending the extra $$ on the finance charges. 0.9% is hard to beat these days. Lowest I had was 2.2 on a home equity line. Not to mention the 1500 dollar credit MB is currently giving on their pre-owned vehicles.
Since this deal is now over, im sure you will see a few more interested parties! the car is priced well.
There are few odd ***** out their though - a gentlemen on auto trader had an 2011 tenorite on black with the upgraded multispoke AMG wheels for 37.5K! 60K KM on the odo and clean title. It was a leas return and he wanted to make 1000 on the deal.
He sold it a few hours before I could go see it. But man it was a steal!
Good luck buddy,
Kris
I was the guy that messaged you about the car, you are absolutely right about not many people wanting to put out 40+ K on the vehicle and finance it themselves.
I was in the exact same position, I could of taken out the 45K and bought yours, as I like knowing the previous owner of the vehicle.
But I simply couldn't justify spending the extra $$ on the finance charges. 0.9% is hard to beat these days. Lowest I had was 2.2 on a home equity line. Not to mention the 1500 dollar credit MB is currently giving on their pre-owned vehicles.
Since this deal is now over, im sure you will see a few more interested parties! the car is priced well.
There are few odd ***** out their though - a gentlemen on auto trader had an 2011 tenorite on black with the upgraded multispoke AMG wheels for 37.5K! 60K KM on the odo and clean title. It was a leas return and he wanted to make 1000 on the deal.
He sold it a few hours before I could go see it. But man it was a steal!
Good luck buddy,
Kris
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I hear yea but here's how I see it.
Private: $40000 + (13 % Tax on wholesale $29000) = $43770 out the door.
Dealer: MB Mississauga has the same car for $49k + $6370 Tax + $1000 licensing fee + $1130 (borrowing cost @ 0.9%) - $1500 credit +$59.50 PPSA = $57559, btw 0.9% is only available for 24 months hence monthly payment of $2398.31
So the same car ended up costing $13730 more.
I didnt make up these numbers I had MB Mississauga run a contract on a 2009 C63 when I picked up 2014 E class few months ago.
Also 0.9% is only for 24 months Finance, for typical 5 years it jumps to 4.9% and your cost of borrowing goes up to $6354.
Trust me dealership is making money one way or the way. These 0.9% financing is how they get you.
And the 2011 Tenorite with 19" Multi you mention is actually $41k which is still on kijiji which is priced very fairly indeed.
Sorry for the long post but I wanna make sure we are comparing apples to apples.
Private: $40000 + (13 % Tax on wholesale $29000) = $43770 out the door.
Dealer: MB Mississauga has the same car for $49k + $6370 Tax + $1000 licensing fee + $1130 (borrowing cost @ 0.9%) - $1500 credit +$59.50 PPSA = $57559, btw 0.9% is only available for 24 months hence monthly payment of $2398.31
So the same car ended up costing $13730 more.
I didnt make up these numbers I had MB Mississauga run a contract on a 2009 C63 when I picked up 2014 E class few months ago.
Also 0.9% is only for 24 months Finance, for typical 5 years it jumps to 4.9% and your cost of borrowing goes up to $6354.
Trust me dealership is making money one way or the way. These 0.9% financing is how they get you.
And the 2011 Tenorite with 19" Multi you mention is actually $41k which is still on kijiji which is priced very fairly indeed.
Sorry for the long post but I wanna make sure we are comparing apples to apples.
Hey Bud,
I was the guy that messaged you about the car, you are absolutely right about not many people wanting to put out 40+ K on the vehicle and finance it themselves.
I was in the exact same position, I could of taken out the 45K and bought yours, as I like knowing the previous owner of the vehicle.
But I simply couldn't justify spending the extra $$ on the finance charges. 0.9% is hard to beat these days. Lowest I had was 2.2 on a home equity line. Not to mention the 1500 dollar credit MB is currently giving on their pre-owned vehicles.
Since this deal is now over, im sure you will see a few more interested parties! the car is priced well.
There are few odd ***** out their though - a gentlemen on auto trader had an 2011 tenorite on black with the upgraded multispoke AMG wheels for 37.5K! 60K KM on the odo and clean title. It was a leas return and he wanted to make 1000 on the deal.
He sold it a few hours before I could go see it. But man it was a steal!
Good luck buddy,
Kris
I was the guy that messaged you about the car, you are absolutely right about not many people wanting to put out 40+ K on the vehicle and finance it themselves.
I was in the exact same position, I could of taken out the 45K and bought yours, as I like knowing the previous owner of the vehicle.
But I simply couldn't justify spending the extra $$ on the finance charges. 0.9% is hard to beat these days. Lowest I had was 2.2 on a home equity line. Not to mention the 1500 dollar credit MB is currently giving on their pre-owned vehicles.
Since this deal is now over, im sure you will see a few more interested parties! the car is priced well.
There are few odd ***** out their though - a gentlemen on auto trader had an 2011 tenorite on black with the upgraded multispoke AMG wheels for 37.5K! 60K KM on the odo and clean title. It was a leas return and he wanted to make 1000 on the deal.
He sold it a few hours before I could go see it. But man it was a steal!
Good luck buddy,
Kris
Last edited by gsxr_fvr; Oct 7, 2013 at 02:40 PM.
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I actually work for a MB dealer in the east end & what gsxr_fvr said is bang on. I can ensure that these are the going #'s on AMG's these days in Toronto area. BTW finance rates are subject to change & 0.9% is only available on 12 - 24 month Conditional sales contract's i.e MB Financial services Finance contract.
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Not to throw a stick in anyones spokes but Octobers offer is 3 payments waived and 2.9% for 6 years. This is MB Canada of course. Not the US.
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/...al_offers.html
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/...al_offers.html
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Absolutely could be, my numbers were few months old & the rate changes quite frequently but even with 1.9 % for 7 years total comes to $52928 after 3 payment waiver. But the fact of the matter remains MB dealer is charging $10k for the same car & full 13% tax on that.
All I am trying to say is despite that 1.9% you end up paying well over $10-12k extra for the same car purschased at dealership as compared to a private deal.
All I am trying to say is despite that 1.9% you end up paying well over $10-12k extra for the same car purschased at dealership as compared to a private deal.
Not to throw a stick in anyones spokes but Octobers offer is 3 payments waived and 2.9% for 6 years. This is MB Canada of course. Not the US.
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/...al_offers.html
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/...al_offers.html
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When I bought mine I got .9 for 6 years. Even so, with dealership pricing it was a wash.
This was how the Big 3 in Detroit have sold cars for years......subsidize the price by offering cheap financing. THe only difference is MB still has a quality product while the 3 started offering anonymous cookie cutter crap. Thank god we are seeing some more interesting product from them these days.
MB Canada seems very intent on
a) setting sales records
b) selling more than BMW
and they are prepared to make nothing on finance in order to do it. I wish they would do it by lowering their certified pricing cos then we could pay cash or use our own finance and we would also pay a lot less sales tax.
This was how the Big 3 in Detroit have sold cars for years......subsidize the price by offering cheap financing. THe only difference is MB still has a quality product while the 3 started offering anonymous cookie cutter crap. Thank god we are seeing some more interesting product from them these days.
MB Canada seems very intent on
a) setting sales records
b) selling more than BMW
and they are prepared to make nothing on finance in order to do it. I wish they would do it by lowering their certified pricing cos then we could pay cash or use our own finance and we would also pay a lot less sales tax.
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Exactly..You should see the MB Certified Canadian Used Prices. Through the roof..
When I bought mine I got .9 for 6 years. Even so, with dealership pricing it was a wash.
This was how the Big 3 in Detroit have sold cars for years......subsidize the price by offering cheap financing. THe only difference is MB still has a quality product while the 3 started offering anonymous cookie cutter crap. Thank god we are seeing some more interesting product from them these days.
MB Canada seems very intent on
a) setting sales records
b) selling more than BMW
and they are prepared to make nothing on finance in order to do it. I wish they would do it by lowering their certified pricing cos then we could pay cash or use our own finance and we would also pay a lot less sales tax.
This was how the Big 3 in Detroit have sold cars for years......subsidize the price by offering cheap financing. THe only difference is MB still has a quality product while the 3 started offering anonymous cookie cutter crap. Thank god we are seeing some more interesting product from them these days.
MB Canada seems very intent on
a) setting sales records
b) selling more than BMW
and they are prepared to make nothing on finance in order to do it. I wish they would do it by lowering their certified pricing cos then we could pay cash or use our own finance and we would also pay a lot less sales tax.
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If there is one thing that I'm disappointed in with the C63, it's the resale value of the car.
Normally it's not something that I worry about too much, but it's pretty much brutal on this particular vehicle.
I've been getting offers of $45K on a '12 C63 Coupe with P31 (APX) package, fully loaded. 25K on it, and completely stock.
I would have thought this was a car that I could sell for $55K (CAD) without any issues at all. At $45K I could probably just trade it in and save the HST on it.
It's making me think one of two routes to go: either sell it and forget about ever buying another Mercedes Benz, or just keep it for 10 years and extract every last bit of value out of the car (I figure after 10 years it should be at it's floor price in terms of depreciation).
Right now, I'm leaning towards #2. It's not like I hate the car.
Patrick
Normally it's not something that I worry about too much, but it's pretty much brutal on this particular vehicle.
I've been getting offers of $45K on a '12 C63 Coupe with P31 (APX) package, fully loaded. 25K on it, and completely stock.
I would have thought this was a car that I could sell for $55K (CAD) without any issues at all. At $45K I could probably just trade it in and save the HST on it.
It's making me think one of two routes to go: either sell it and forget about ever buying another Mercedes Benz, or just keep it for 10 years and extract every last bit of value out of the car (I figure after 10 years it should be at it's floor price in terms of depreciation).
Right now, I'm leaning towards #2. It's not like I hate the car.
Patrick
