Shall I wait for C CLASS 2015's AMG?
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i seriously don't know what the fuss is about.... as far as i'm concerned it's a no brainer, get the C63 with the 6.2L V8. It's epic! and if you don't like it (doubt it) you can then sell it in couple of years and get the new 4L TT.
Or, don't buy it, and spend the rest of your life envying those of us who did
Or, don't buy it, and spend the rest of your life envying those of us who did
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Ew....4.0L Turbo? No thanks mercedes...you can take it back...thats disgusting..a 4.0L turbo????? What is this a BMW m3 now??? WTF??? Are those germans off the drugs they were on when they made the 6.2L? someone needs to get them back on whatever they were STAT...It's not even about gas milage...it's about the unique factor...when I tell people it's a 6.2L their like "HOLY ****" ...How fun will it be to tell people it's just some normal 4.0L that you can find in a standard mini van these days....sure it'll be an "AMG" motor but my buddies 20 year old jeep has a 4.0L V8 and that's what a 4.0L reminds me off...Screw the gas milage...it's all these retards working 9-5's who drive 300 miles to get to work who are sucking up all the gas on earth...5.0L or more...4.0L is just a joke...5.0L mustangs would seriously laugh at it. When a 5.0L mustang sees "6.3AMG" on the side they know whats up...when they see "4.0L AMG" on the side they'll laugh
While I'm loving the big CID engine for all the glorious reasons, a bi-turbo smaller engine is plenty capable and will probably put down MORE power than the current C63.
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When every new model comes out people complain about how the old one for whatever reason is better. Let's just cut to the chase. It won't be. The 2015 will be faster, better, sound great...all of the above. Like it always is w/AMG, the new car will improve on the old, and the only folks who disagree are the current owners holding onto their pride.
One thing will change though, a small CID bi-turbo will never have the same sound and feel as a big *** N/A.
I'm sure that will be a minor thing in 5 years from now, especially after everyone see's it's faster. In the future, there will still be a minority that prefer the raw big CID N/A motor.
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I am anxiously awaiting the official news on the 2015 C AMG. I miss the M156 dearly and have been so close to buying a 2012/2013 but have decided to hold out for 1 main reason: 4MATIC. AWD + a TTV8 in what should be a significantly lighter, stiffer chassis should position make it one of the best handling cars (short of the Black Series) to ever wear the AMG badge.
When you start thinking about tuning potential, I think you're going to end up with one of the closest things to a 4-door GTR that you'll be able to find!
Regarding the exhaust - clearly it's been one of the defining characteristics of the C63. I know there was a lot of speculation as to how the M157 equipped 63 carswould sound and I think it's safe to say those have been quelled. I have full confidence that the impending 4L bi-turbo will be more than up to the task.
When you start thinking about tuning potential, I think you're going to end up with one of the closest things to a 4-door GTR that you'll be able to find!
Regarding the exhaust - clearly it's been one of the defining characteristics of the C63. I know there was a lot of speculation as to how the M157 equipped 63 carswould sound and I think it's safe to say those have been quelled. I have full confidence that the impending 4L bi-turbo will be more than up to the task.
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I am anxiously awaiting the official news on the 2015 C AMG. I miss the M156 dearly and have been so close to buying a 2012/2013 but have decided to hold out for 1 main reason: 4MATIC. AWD + a TTV8 in what should be a significantly lighter, stiffer chassis should position make it one of the best handling cars (short of the Black Series) to ever wear the AMG badge.
When you start thinking about tuning potential, I think you're going to end up with one of the closest things to a 4-door GTR that you'll be able to find!
Regarding the exhaust - clearly it's been one of the defining characteristics of the C63. I know there was a lot of speculation as to how the M157 equipped 63 carswould sound and I think it's safe to say those have been quelled. I have full confidence that the impending 4L bi-turbo will be more than up to the task.
When you start thinking about tuning potential, I think you're going to end up with one of the closest things to a 4-door GTR that you'll be able to find!
Regarding the exhaust - clearly it's been one of the defining characteristics of the C63. I know there was a lot of speculation as to how the M157 equipped 63 carswould sound and I think it's safe to say those have been quelled. I have full confidence that the impending 4L bi-turbo will be more than up to the task.
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We always figure out a way to make these cars faster and sound better. I wouldn't worry about it, get the car that you like and trust the aftermarket to take care of the rest. The C63 did so well, I can't imagine aftermarket support being less in any way for the new model. If anything there will be MORE parts for the new car since it's a turbo setup, much easier for companies to get big power numbers
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A turbocharger will dampen the individual pressure pulses coming out of the exhaust so it's unlikely that the "bam-bam-bam-bam" soundtrack that makes the C63 somewhat unique will still be there. Having said that, you can make any engine sound louder or more involving. I wouldn't call the exhaust note of a 911 turbo dull by any means.
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I am anxiously awaiting the official news on the 2015 C AMG. I miss the M156 dearly and have been so close to buying a 2012/2013 but have decided to hold out for 1 main reason: 4MATIC. AWD + a TTV8 in what should be a significantly lighter, stiffer chassis should position make it one of the best handling cars (short of the Black Series) to ever wear the AMG badge.
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Displacement is too small? BMW had a 1.5lt making 13-1500hp in the 80's with archaic turbos and rudimentry ECU tuning. Give it a couple of years for the after market to dig into these and I think over 700WHP is possible IF the bottom end can take it. I may eat my words once it hits the streets... But this engine should be a legend. 6.2 what?
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We're getting 700 HP out of the BMW N54 twin turbo motors with a single turbo conversion on the STOCK INTERNALS. Just an example for the nay sayers.....
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A $30 Casio is lighter, has more gimmicks and keeps time more accurately than my old mechanical Omega, but I don't know if I'd call it a better watch. In the late 60s and early 70s we built the Concorde (and for that matter the Tu-144) but I have yet to see another supersonic commercial aircraft. Better usually means with more gadgets, creature comforts and more economical, not necessarily better in every single respect. A 50-year old Lotus 7 still handles better than any production Mercedes car ever made.
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I couldnt agree more v8tt awd is gonna to be insane. Only reason i havent went to the Gtr is because i know i will miss the luxury aspect. i work for nissan by the way
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The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. The higher you push the specific output, the more you lower the longevity of the motor. It's exactly the same thing with engine tuning.
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Sure it did. The only problem was that it lasted for only one lap. They had to tune it down so that it could finish a single 250 km race before it ended up as scrap metal. How may WRX STis, Mitsubish Evos or old Porsche 911 Turbos do you see with 300,000 km on the clock? And how many cars in the same 300 hp range that have a naturally aspirated motor?
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. The higher you push the specific output, the more you lower the longevity of the motor. It's exactly the same thing with engine tuning.
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. The higher you push the specific output, the more you lower the longevity of the motor. It's exactly the same thing with engine tuning.
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I'm just saying that times have changed. Materials are better. Programing is far more percise. Will it last like EOM? Who knows. Likely not.
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Back to the orig? Should you wait? No one can tell you for sure but I can say that after the recent spy photos I truly don't like the look of the 2015 C car. I looks like a mini Maybach. Just my opinion. I'm currently driving a BMW 335is which is tuned and running e85 mix, with DCT. Definitely north of 400hp in a fairly light car. I really love the car but the instant throttle response of the 6.2 is untouchable, especially for DD. The slight Lag with twin turbo sucks sometimes. It's not there all the time but seems to flair right when you don't want it.
All this was to say that I'm not driving a C63 yet (waiting for 507 to arrive) and as much as I love the 335is I can't wait for the NA C63! Not to mention, I don't like the look (SO FAR) of the 2015. I love the current Benz
Not sure if any of that helps
All this was to say that I'm not driving a C63 yet (waiting for 507 to arrive) and as much as I love the 335is I can't wait for the NA C63! Not to mention, I don't like the look (SO FAR) of the 2015. I love the current Benz
Not sure if any of that helps
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I am anxiously awaiting the official news on the 2015 C AMG. I miss the M156 dearly and have been so close to buying a 2012/2013 but have decided to hold out for 1 main reason: 4MATIC. AWD + a TTV8 in what should be a significantly lighter, stiffer chassis should position make it one of the best handling cars (short of the Black Series) to ever wear the AMG badge.
When you start thinking about tuning potential, I think you're going to end up with one of the closest things to a 4-door GTR that you'll be able to find!
Regarding the exhaust - clearly it's been one of the defining characteristics of the C63. I know there was a lot of speculation as to how the M157 equipped 63 carswould sound and I think it's safe to say those have been quelled. I have full confidence that the impending 4L bi-turbo will be more than up to the task.
When you start thinking about tuning potential, I think you're going to end up with one of the closest things to a 4-door GTR that you'll be able to find!
Regarding the exhaust - clearly it's been one of the defining characteristics of the C63. I know there was a lot of speculation as to how the M157 equipped 63 carswould sound and I think it's safe to say those have been quelled. I have full confidence that the impending 4L bi-turbo will be more than up to the task.
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All the turbo motors, whether MB, BMW, Audi, to me sound like crap. The MB less crap but still...crap.
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The 15 C55 as it will called will be a 4.0 litre 8 with twin turbos.....7 speed DCT trans with different settings . I'd say that's a nice car......expected HP is about 465.......
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Now many people are saying that turbocharged cars sounds crap according to what ? Lol? Too many different cars like that are actually considered super cars and beats.