thinking of trading for a M3..thoughts??
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well, the deal is done! i picked up my jet black m3 today and i love it! it was far more comfortable on the highway and i had a lot of more rocking it out on the back yards. i agree, both cars are excellent and amazing, just in different ways. so in that regard, a matter of preference!
May you have 10,000 safe and happy journeys. Some long, some to the corner store.....but all of them ***** out and redlined.
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c63 BS; lc500; F-pace SVR; Jaguar P8, c63 p31
well, the deal is done! i picked up my jet black m3 today and i love it! it was far more comfortable on the highway and i had a lot of more rocking it out on the back yards. i agree, both cars are excellent and amazing, just in different ways. so in that regard, a matter of preference!
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2014 C63 Coupe
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I believe the torque in the M3 is 299 and the hp is 414. The difference between an M3 and a 335i is much more than just the engine.
Oh really? Wow. Never knew that.
Next thing you know you'll be saying that the difference between the C300 and the C63 is more than the motor. Hope you have evidence to back that up.
604 C63, glad I was able to help out. Surprised that you didn't know that. I also think there are some differences between a C63 and a C300.
Originally Posted by KIS007 View Post
I believe the torque in the M3 is 299 and the hp is 414. The difference between an M3 and a 335i is much more than just the engine.
Oh really? Wow. Never knew that.
Next thing you know you'll be saying that the difference between the C300 and the C63 is more than the motor. Hope you have evidence to back that up.
604 C63, glad I was able to help out. Surprised that you didn't know that. I also think there are some differences between a C63 and a C300.
Last edited by KIS007; Nov 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM.
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Well, congratulations to you Swag. Nothing on earth as fun as a new car - and I always say "If you're going to cheat on your wife, don't sleep with her twin". By that I mean to say that when you make a change, make a change. Dont just get a newer version of your old car. Fresh = Fun.
May you have 10,000 safe and happy journeys. Some long, some to the corner store.....but all of them ***** out and redlined.
May you have 10,000 safe and happy journeys. Some long, some to the corner store.....but all of them ***** out and redlined.
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09 C300 4MATIC, 09 C63 AMG
DCT is amazing IMO! so smooth and enjoyable! i enjoy the ability to have it be super cozy and comfortable, then to be able to press the M button and have a different beast on my hands. from what ive been reading, there is apparently a GTS bit of software you can have installed that makes the DCT even better, so we'lll see
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Originally Posted by KIS007 View Post
I believe the torque in the M3 is 299 and the hp is 414. The difference between an M3 and a 335i is much more than just the engine.
Oh really? Wow. Never knew that.
Next thing you know you'll be saying that the difference between the C300 and the C63 is more than the motor. Hope you have evidence to back that up.
604 C63, glad I was able to help out. Surprised that you didn't know that. I also think there are some differences between a C63 and a C300.
Originally Posted by KIS007 View Post
I believe the torque in the M3 is 299 and the hp is 414. The difference between an M3 and a 335i is much more than just the engine.
Oh really? Wow. Never knew that.
Next thing you know you'll be saying that the difference between the C300 and the C63 is more than the motor. Hope you have evidence to back that up.
604 C63, glad I was able to help out. Surprised that you didn't know that. I also think there are some differences between a C63 and a C300.
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DCT is amazing IMO! so smooth and enjoyable! i enjoy the ability to have it be super cozy and comfortable, then to be able to press the M button and have a different beast on my hands. from what ive been reading, there is apparently a GTS bit of software you can have installed that makes the DCT even better, so we'lll see
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09 C63
SMG in the e46 was the worse tranny ever made
many reviewers have rated the C63 1st gen a great tranny for a torque convertor type
since 1980 I've owned nothing but manuals, for well over 700k miles
M3's, RS4, Porsches
the C63 engine is a perfect match for an auto, where as the lower torque and narrower torque band of the M3 fares better with mechanical gears
I don't know what 'faster' means but I do know there is no real difference at thr 'Ring between a 2009 C63 and DCT M3 and the time lost to gear transition is moot
there are advantages to both, but many drag racers like an auto
no tranny complaints really http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...c63-amg-page-3
The shift paddles are at three and nine o'clock, and they respond instantly. They're still connected to a traditional automatic, but the quick responses and the blipped-throttle downshifts make you forget.
Upshifts happen quickly, leaving just the smallest interruption in the surge of power on the way to a blazing 12.3-second quarter-mile at 116 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ment-pack-test
Although the transmissions in the C63 and SLS boast seven forward ratios, the C63’s box is a conventional torque-converter automatic versus the SLS’s dual-clutch unit. The sedan’s gearbox works better, as toeing the throttle moves the C63 in the predictable, smooth fashion that only comes from whipping up transmission fluid in a torque converter. The SLS’s dual clutches may perform quicker shifts, but the electronic controls give this transmission a klutzy feel when it comes to pulling away from a stoplight and when changing out of reverse and into drive. The C63’s real automatic doesn’t ever trip or stumble, although we do wish the paddle shifters would accept requests for multiple gearchanges.
http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz...road-test.html
Even in full-auto, the transmission upshifts crisply on hard acceleration and downshifts smartly — with throttle blips — on braking. Love it.
many reviewers have rated the C63 1st gen a great tranny for a torque convertor type
since 1980 I've owned nothing but manuals, for well over 700k miles
M3's, RS4, Porsches
the C63 engine is a perfect match for an auto, where as the lower torque and narrower torque band of the M3 fares better with mechanical gears
I don't know what 'faster' means but I do know there is no real difference at thr 'Ring between a 2009 C63 and DCT M3 and the time lost to gear transition is moot
there are advantages to both, but many drag racers like an auto
no tranny complaints really http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...c63-amg-page-3
The shift paddles are at three and nine o'clock, and they respond instantly. They're still connected to a traditional automatic, but the quick responses and the blipped-throttle downshifts make you forget.
Upshifts happen quickly, leaving just the smallest interruption in the surge of power on the way to a blazing 12.3-second quarter-mile at 116 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ment-pack-test
Although the transmissions in the C63 and SLS boast seven forward ratios, the C63’s box is a conventional torque-converter automatic versus the SLS’s dual-clutch unit. The sedan’s gearbox works better, as toeing the throttle moves the C63 in the predictable, smooth fashion that only comes from whipping up transmission fluid in a torque converter. The SLS’s dual clutches may perform quicker shifts, but the electronic controls give this transmission a klutzy feel when it comes to pulling away from a stoplight and when changing out of reverse and into drive. The C63’s real automatic doesn’t ever trip or stumble, although we do wish the paddle shifters would accept requests for multiple gearchanges.
http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz...road-test.html
Even in full-auto, the transmission upshifts crisply on hard acceleration and downshifts smartly — with throttle blips — on braking. Love it.
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2009 C63, 2000 ML 430, 1994 Del Sol Vtec
Now that DCT trans is bliss.
