Rear Tire Recommendations?
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From: southern NJ
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because i live in NJ, even though the car won't see snow, the compound of the PSS isn't meant for cold surfaces and would offer much worse performance than the their new PS A/S 3. Michelin said that i'd see better overall performance across the whole year with the PS A/S 3 than if i got the PSS.
another thing to consider is, at least with the tires i got...265s had only .1 (POINT ONE) inches less tread width than 275. plus, the 275s were like 25 dollars more each and weighed one pound more. so, i got the 265s.
another great thing about the A/S 3 is the treadwear rating is much higher than the PSS. ok fine, there is a warranty for both, but the frequency in which you'd have to use that warranty is much less. so less dollars on down time, dismount/mount/balance, etc. Michelin tech department told me for street use i'd likely not notice any difference between the two tires even in the summer because the A/S 3 is based so closely on the PSS and i 100% agree after having these things on my car for several months.
another thing to consider is, at least with the tires i got...265s had only .1 (POINT ONE) inches less tread width than 275. plus, the 275s were like 25 dollars more each and weighed one pound more. so, i got the 265s.
another great thing about the A/S 3 is the treadwear rating is much higher than the PSS. ok fine, there is a warranty for both, but the frequency in which you'd have to use that warranty is much less. so less dollars on down time, dismount/mount/balance, etc. Michelin tech department told me for street use i'd likely not notice any difference between the two tires even in the summer because the A/S 3 is based so closely on the PSS and i 100% agree after having these things on my car for several months.
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Does anyone rate the Nitto Invo tyres?
I've read some reviews and they say they are quiet tyres, grippy in the wet and dry.
I'd love a set of these because they look aggressive.
I'm running 235's and 265's rear.
I'm due for tyres soon and i'm checking out the market. I want something very quiet that has good handling in the wet and dry. Doesn't have to be exceptional, road noise is more my issue. I hate the sound of tyres.
I've read some reviews and they say they are quiet tyres, grippy in the wet and dry.
I'd love a set of these because they look aggressive.
I'm running 235's and 265's rear.
I'm due for tyres soon and i'm checking out the market. I want something very quiet that has good handling in the wet and dry. Doesn't have to be exceptional, road noise is more my issue. I hate the sound of tyres.
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Does anyone rate the Nitto Invo tyres?
I've read some reviews and they say they are quiet tyres, grippy in the wet and dry.
I'd love a set of these because they look aggressive.
I'm running 235's and 265's rear.
I'm due for tyres soon and i'm checking out the market. I want something very quiet that has good handling in the wet and dry. Doesn't have to be exceptional, road noise is more my issue. I hate the sound of tyres.
I've read some reviews and they say they are quiet tyres, grippy in the wet and dry.
I'd love a set of these because they look aggressive.
I'm running 235's and 265's rear.
I'm due for tyres soon and i'm checking out the market. I want something very quiet that has good handling in the wet and dry. Doesn't have to be exceptional, road noise is more my issue. I hate the sound of tyres.
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From: southern NJ
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the problem with running other brand tires is the warranty. Michelin not only offers AMAZING tires for our cars in the PSS and PS A/S 3 range...among others, but they have that warranty which is crucial with cars like ours that just inherently eat tires like it's going out of style. if Michelin tires were garbage, then the warranty isn't worth a damn but imo they make fantastic tires.
i mean, i bought my car with 1200 miles. the car was barely driven and you could tell because even in those 1200 miles, the OE tires were almost full tread depth. well, i got the car and needed rear tires at 4500 miles! i didn't do ONE aggressive driving trip or move in the car yet it still destroyed the tires. so, yeah...the Michelin warranty almost makes selecting their brand a no-brainer for our cars.
i mean, i bought my car with 1200 miles. the car was barely driven and you could tell because even in those 1200 miles, the OE tires were almost full tread depth. well, i got the car and needed rear tires at 4500 miles! i didn't do ONE aggressive driving trip or move in the car yet it still destroyed the tires. so, yeah...the Michelin warranty almost makes selecting their brand a no-brainer for our cars.
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Ok,
I have pretty much covered all the variables on tire sizes.
Daily drivers, 245/275 work great.
For Track, I run 255/285 with a little rubbing
I have pretty much covered all the variables on tire sizes.
Daily drivers, 245/275 work great.
For Track, I run 255/285 with a little rubbing
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Does anyone have a picture of how 275's or 285's look on the stock 18" rears? I'm about to go get some new PSS's for my rears and am skeptical of how they will look. (I have horrible OCD on how tires/rims fit)
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From: southern NJ
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something to think about since the wider tires are more weight and more money.
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Haha, I'm using Michelin's specs. Most people don't know that it's possible for 265 to have wider "actual" tread than a 275. But aside from that, I assume they still round up to the nearest tenth regardless of design nuances between sizes, hahaha.
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.... how in the hell!? Just going off of the fact that it should be 275 mm shouldn't the difference from 255 and 275 be, like Karl 901 said, .787 inches wider? I'm a bit confused as to how you're only getting .1 and .2 inch differences between a 20mm tire size difference....
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From: Montreal Quebec
2016 C63S, 2012 ML350
If you look at each tire manufacturers specs you'll see one particular size varies from one to the other. Technically, a P275/30R19 should be 275mm's wide or 10.827" wide & have an overall height of 25.496"
Last edited by crazy1eye; Dec 3, 2013 at 09:48 AM.
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hahaha
i agree it's nuts. the only thing i can think of is when the tires are actually in use, the tread width they show in the specs, the numbers that are wacky, change and become more along the lines of what we expect based on what the sidewall shows us. because from what i can tell, it's the shoulder design that limits the actual tread width between these different sizes so maybe factoring in the dynamic tire behavior you get more tread on the ground with a 275 than a 265. but yeah, if you look at the manufacturer measurements and tire attributes, it's all wacky.
honestly i have no complaints with my 265s so i'll never find out if there is any real difference with the wider sizes.
i agree it's nuts. the only thing i can think of is when the tires are actually in use, the tread width they show in the specs, the numbers that are wacky, change and become more along the lines of what we expect based on what the sidewall shows us. because from what i can tell, it's the shoulder design that limits the actual tread width between these different sizes so maybe factoring in the dynamic tire behavior you get more tread on the ground with a 275 than a 265. but yeah, if you look at the manufacturer measurements and tire attributes, it's all wacky.
honestly i have no complaints with my 265s so i'll never find out if there is any real difference with the wider sizes.
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I think 265 pss is much closer to the OE than any other size. Using the specs for rotations per mile and diameter, I like to maintain the rotational ratios with which the car is designed. A bit nerdy but hey.
Think about slightly larger diameter making you slightly slower. I bet it can be quantified to a couple of hps.
Think about slightly larger diameter making you slightly slower. I bet it can be quantified to a couple of hps.
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I think 265 pss is much closer to the OE than any other size. Using the specs for rotations per mile and diameter, I like to maintain the rotational ratios with which the car is designed. A bit nerdy but hey.
Think about slightly larger diameter making you slightly slower. I bet it can be quantified to a couple of hps.
Think about slightly larger diameter making you slightly slower. I bet it can be quantified to a couple of hps.
i think unsprung weight vs. actual tread width is the thing to consider first. then cost. like, why get a wider tire if the actual useful tread is basically the same as a tire that is labeled as a skinnier tire, esp if that "skinnier" tire weighs a couple lbs more. but yeah, as long as you stay close to OE overall diameter, any affect on final drive ratio and speedo calibration will be nil.
i always thought this was a neat comparison tool for figuring out a lot of thing re: alternate tire sizes vs. stock, including fender lip/suspension component proximity issues and affects to your speedo -
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
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I'm on 245/35/19 fronts and 275/35/19 rears with H&R springs - no rubbing at all but with -ve camber. Tires used are Michelins PSS which is the most ideal. But if you want longer lasting tires, you can have a look at the Hankook Ventus V12 I suppose for daily drive to work. My two cents worth 
