New Transmission Software = OMG
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C63
Haven't been on the forums much so missed much of this thread.
I checked my invoice, but there is no code for the transmission update. My SA told me the only reason he knew is because someone had come in the week before and plugged in to find out there was an update.
So I told him to go ahead and plug mine in to see if I have one too and he did. There is no TSB for the update. The only way to find out is if you plug in your car.
Now I had a tune on the car when I brought it in. I wonder if the system checked the parameters and found different shift points from the tune and the update was to correct that. I'm just guessing because my SA has always been more than honest with me and taken care of me. Heck, they even re-surfaced my leather seats for me for free under CPO so I know they go above and beyond.
I'll stop by this weekend and see if I can get more info on if there is a code for the update or not. Like I said though, he told me the only way to know if there is an update for your vehicle is by plugging it in.
I checked my invoice, but there is no code for the transmission update. My SA told me the only reason he knew is because someone had come in the week before and plugged in to find out there was an update.
So I told him to go ahead and plug mine in to see if I have one too and he did. There is no TSB for the update. The only way to find out is if you plug in your car.
Now I had a tune on the car when I brought it in. I wonder if the system checked the parameters and found different shift points from the tune and the update was to correct that. I'm just guessing because my SA has always been more than honest with me and taken care of me. Heck, they even re-surfaced my leather seats for me for free under CPO so I know they go above and beyond.
I'll stop by this weekend and see if I can get more info on if there is a code for the update or not. Like I said though, he told me the only way to know if there is an update for your vehicle is by plugging it in.
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Haven't been on the forums much so missed much of this thread.
I checked my invoice, but there is no code for the transmission update. My SA told me the only reason he knew is because someone had come in the week before and plugged in to find out there was an update.
So I told him to go ahead and plug mine in to see if I have one too and he did. There is no TSB for the update. The only way to find out is if you plug in your car.
Now I had a tune on the car when I brought it in. I wonder if the system checked the parameters and found different shift points from the tune and the update was to correct that. I'm just guessing because my SA has always been more than honest with me and taken care of me. Heck, they even re-surfaced my leather seats for me for free under CPO so I know they go above and beyond.
I'll stop by this weekend and see if I can get more info on if there is a code for the update or not. Like I said though, he told me the only way to know if there is an update for your vehicle is by plugging it in.
I checked my invoice, but there is no code for the transmission update. My SA told me the only reason he knew is because someone had come in the week before and plugged in to find out there was an update.
So I told him to go ahead and plug mine in to see if I have one too and he did. There is no TSB for the update. The only way to find out is if you plug in your car.
Now I had a tune on the car when I brought it in. I wonder if the system checked the parameters and found different shift points from the tune and the update was to correct that. I'm just guessing because my SA has always been more than honest with me and taken care of me. Heck, they even re-surfaced my leather seats for me for free under CPO so I know they go above and beyond.
I'll stop by this weekend and see if I can get more info on if there is a code for the update or not. Like I said though, he told me the only way to know if there is an update for your vehicle is by plugging it in.
I can't imagine MB would issue revisions without any documentation what so ever
Also a sr trainer at mb usa said there was none as did corp mb usa
And many others here also have had their car plugged in-no update
I want this magic software
Last edited by Ingenieur; May 23, 2014 at 10:35 AM.
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new software comes out all the time without any notice of release or of what it changes. Which often creates more problems that weren't present before.
Im sure if you went through all the modules on your 2010 you'd have....
door control module updates, audio, central gateway, cluster, front and rear sam and thats just the beginning. What would these benefit? whoever knows wont ever tell you. My favorite updates are to things like seat control modules - it's not like the seat is gaining new features ?
Im sure if you went through all the modules on your 2010 you'd have....
door control module updates, audio, central gateway, cluster, front and rear sam and thats just the beginning. What would these benefit? whoever knows wont ever tell you. My favorite updates are to things like seat control modules - it's not like the seat is gaining new features ?
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350z, Frontier, Jeep CJ-5, C63
Had service B performed a few weeks ago at the dealer - my car shifts are noticeably smoother, especially gears 1-2 from stops.
As a side note, the car now idles at "normal" on cold starts, as opposed to higher rpms then lowering.
As a side note, the car now idles at "normal" on cold starts, as opposed to higher rpms then lowering.
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At any rate the car now idles differently upon cold starts and shifts are noticeably softer from rolling stops - not sure what was done (for better or worse) between dropping the car and packing it up, but the subtle changes were noticeable.
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Never said it did. Though I'm not sure when MB would be able to apply any updates to the car other than when it's brought in for servicing.
At any rate the car now idles differently upon cold starts and shifts are noticeably softer from rolling stops - not sure what was done (for better or worse) between dropping the car and packing it up, but the subtle changes were noticeable.
At any rate the car now idles differently upon cold starts and shifts are noticeably softer from rolling stops - not sure what was done (for better or worse) between dropping the car and packing it up, but the subtle changes were noticeable.
scan and post your invoice (redact name, address, etc.)
it will show up
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2013 c63 coupe p31
C63 transmission update
I have a 2014, and there is definitely an software update for the tranny. I'm having it done in the morning. A friend of mine is the head tech at Delray mercedes, and he was aware of it. I have a Renntech tune in the car, and I've already spoke with them as there is a good chance when Mercedes does the upgrade my tune might get "erased". Renntech will gladly reflash my car if it gets deleted. I'm looking forward to see the effects of the transmission update. I'll post my results tomorrow.
And if you got the update, was your tune intact?
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C63 Coupe
My C63 PP (2012 facelift) went in for a service last week. I mentioned a clunky gear change from 3-2 and 2-1. They investigated and found nothing.
However they still went ahead with "Engine and Gearbox update" (words from the invoice) - which the technician translated to 'ECU and gearbox software updates'.
So, has it made a difference. Yes. But marginal. Maybe 5-10% smoother changes across C, S, S+. Its not Night&Day - on my car - thats for sure.
(Also had the COMAND software update (which I believe includes maps) took 4 hours though).
However they still went ahead with "Engine and Gearbox update" (words from the invoice) - which the technician translated to 'ECU and gearbox software updates'.
So, has it made a difference. Yes. But marginal. Maybe 5-10% smoother changes across C, S, S+. Its not Night&Day - on my car - thats for sure.
(Also had the COMAND software update (which I believe includes maps) took 4 hours though).
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comand software doesnt include maps, unless you buy the new updated navigation disc released every year.
Keep in mind the mct will never be "smooth" it's still an electronically controlled clutch rather than a torque converter. It has 1 to 1 coupling, not always slightly slipping. Reseting the transmission adaptations is totally different. You can also perform a teach in of the wetclutch adaptation where it relearns the "kiss" point which can aid in smoothing it out some. Just go test drive a smart car, you'll appreciate what you've got.
Keep in mind the mct will never be "smooth" it's still an electronically controlled clutch rather than a torque converter. It has 1 to 1 coupling, not always slightly slipping. Reseting the transmission adaptations is totally different. You can also perform a teach in of the wetclutch adaptation where it relearns the "kiss" point which can aid in smoothing it out some. Just go test drive a smart car, you'll appreciate what you've got.
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2009 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG PP (Weistec S3 Supercharged)
OK, I dont think this will solve your concerns, however, if you are looking for a nice upgrade (in my opinion the best out there) then do what I did and upgrade to the Weistec 722.9 Bulletproof Tranny. That is absolutely exceptional. (And I do not work for or have any affiliation with Weistec whatsoever, just bought S3 Supercharger and Tranny upgrades from them). Good luck!
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comand software doesnt include maps, unless you buy the new updated navigation disc released every year.
Keep in mind the mct will never be "smooth" it's still an electronically controlled clutch rather than a torque converter. It has 1 to 1 coupling, not always slightly slipping. Reseting the transmission adaptations is totally different. You can also perform a teach in of the wetclutch adaptation where it relearns the "kiss" point which can aid in smoothing it out some. Just go test drive a smart car, you'll appreciate what you've got.
Keep in mind the mct will never be "smooth" it's still an electronically controlled clutch rather than a torque converter. It has 1 to 1 coupling, not always slightly slipping. Reseting the transmission adaptations is totally different. You can also perform a teach in of the wetclutch adaptation where it relearns the "kiss" point which can aid in smoothing it out some. Just go test drive a smart car, you'll appreciate what you've got.
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no, just like a torque converter (lock up/slippage) it engages and disengages between shifts not a 100% but it to some extent. the wet clutch is a pack of clutches, not just one hence the name.The mct unit can do this much quicker than a torque converter, hence the speed improvement.
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no, just like a torque converter (lock up/slippage) it engages and disengages between shifts not a 100% but it to some extent. the wet clutch is a pack of clutches, not just one hence the name.The mct unit can do this much quicker than a torque converter, hence the speed improvement.
