C63 507 Edition Smoking | NEED HELP!
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I agree with others.. drive the car hard for at least 1-2k miles. Monitor the coolant/oil levels every so often. If you're burning more oil than usual it's definitely a bad seal somewhere.
The only time I've seen a car burn smoke that much was when my buddy over filled his engine with oil.
The only time I've seen a car burn smoke that much was when my buddy over filled his engine with oil.
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that is definitely water vapor
one side only
put the resonators on and see if it does it
when you started the car in the video
was the engine warmed up?
how long had it been sitting?
how long until the vapor stopped?
my WAG: water condensing in a low point in the exhaust system, one side only
what else could it be? he's not losing oil or coolant
sometime the dealer is actually correct, lol
Last edited by Ingenieur; Aug 1, 2014 at 08:19 AM.
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2009 C 63
the dealer will have it towed to impound
that is definitely water vapor
one side only
put the resonators on and see if it does it
when you started the car in the video
was the engine warmed up?
how long had it been sitting?
how long until the vapor stopped?
my WAG: water condensing in a low point in the exhaust system, one side only
what else could it be? he's not losing oil or coolant
sometime the dealer is actually correct, lol
that is definitely water vapor
one side only
put the resonators on and see if it does it
when you started the car in the video
was the engine warmed up?
how long had it been sitting?
how long until the vapor stopped?
my WAG: water condensing in a low point in the exhaust system, one side only
what else could it be? he's not losing oil or coolant
sometime the dealer is actually correct, lol
the land of the free ???
the land of the free ???
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2010 C63 AMG, 2009 M3 DCT, 1994 slicktop 2jz swapped 300z
sounds like the rings have not seated full. to do so you do need to put the car through it's passes. I build motors as a hobby and when you are under breakin the car needs to see heat and force to seat the rings. babying the car does not do this. motor shops build a car and throw it on the dyno right away after started up and do 3 hard pulls which seats the rings. and then they change the oil. Put your foot in it a few good times and report back.
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It is HIS car and THEIR property
Why should they assume responsibility for it?
He modded it, they say that caused the problem and all other systems are fine
You park in my driveway without permission it will be towed
Freedom doesn't mean free for all and shyting on others without consequence
Not sure where you come from but we have property rights here
Last edited by Ingenieur; Aug 1, 2014 at 01:57 PM.
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That is not oil
Oil falls/settles
That is water vapor
It dissaptes into the air
Air absorbs water, not oil
The coolant and oil levels are steady
No excessive consumption
Only 1 side affected
Happens during stsrt up then stops
Water collecting in the exhaust
Put the resonator back on
If it stops it was the straight pipes
If it doesn't the dealer can't blame it on the delete
Personally imo not a problem
Try this
Park the car on a STEEP incline nose up
Let it cool over night
See if it does it
Oil falls/settles
That is water vapor
It dissaptes into the air
Air absorbs water, not oil
The coolant and oil levels are steady
No excessive consumption
Only 1 side affected
Happens during stsrt up then stops
Water collecting in the exhaust
Put the resonator back on
If it stops it was the straight pipes
If it doesn't the dealer can't blame it on the delete
Personally imo not a problem
Try this
Park the car on a STEEP incline nose up
Let it cool over night
See if it does it
Last edited by Ingenieur; Aug 1, 2014 at 02:02 PM.
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2009 C 63
the dealer will have it towed to impound
that is definitely water vapor
one side only
put the resonators on and see if it does it
when you started the car in the video
was the engine warmed up?
how long had it been sitting?
how long until the vapor stopped?
my WAG: water condensing in a low point in the exhaust system, one side only
what else could it be? he's not losing oil or coolant
sometime the dealer is actually correct, lol
that is definitely water vapor
one side only
put the resonators on and see if it does it
when you started the car in the video
was the engine warmed up?
how long had it been sitting?
how long until the vapor stopped?
my WAG: water condensing in a low point in the exhaust system, one side only
what else could it be? he's not losing oil or coolant
sometime the dealer is actually correct, lol
i am over & out with this post. trust op gets his problem fixed
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What er is happening here it is happening in the combustion chamber, water in the exhaust would not plume out immediately but as the exhaust heated up then the "steam" would be seen, but out of both sides not one. If no levels are changing and this was my car,(no warranty) I would disconnect the PCV at the manifold, plug the opening and run a cotton cloth as a filter in the opening of the PCV, drive the car and see just what the blow by level is on this car, one owner has reported 2mm of oil in the catch can in just 200 miles, an issue with a PCV could also cause similar smoke issues. Coolant as we all know will smell very sweet and the op has not stated this.
Also would go to another dealership that has no prior knowledge of the car.
Resonator was said to be reinstalled 7/21 as per op.
Also would go to another dealership that has no prior knowledge of the car.
Resonator was said to be reinstalled 7/21 as per op.
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It's not steam
It's water vapor evaporated and warmed by the exhaust
When it hits the cool air it condenses and makes a 'cloud'
Exhaust is close to saturation naturally
It doesn't take much in the pipes to saturate, ie, 100% RH and raise the dew point temp above ambient... And as soon as it hits ambient it condenses since its temp is lower than the gas mixtures dewpoint temp
look at a cars exhaust on a cold dry day
Looks just the same as the video
Once hot the dewpoint temp < than ambient and it stops
Put the resonator back on
If it goes away it was the pipes
If not the dealer lost his excuse
Win-win
If in the cylinder he would be losing coolant and/or oil
He is not
Head gasket you would see bubbles in the expansion tank most likely
I don't think it's a problem
How long does it last?
How long has the car sat?
Cold outside? Is it worse'
The pvc system serves/is common to, both banks
It's water vapor evaporated and warmed by the exhaust
When it hits the cool air it condenses and makes a 'cloud'
Exhaust is close to saturation naturally
It doesn't take much in the pipes to saturate, ie, 100% RH and raise the dew point temp above ambient... And as soon as it hits ambient it condenses since its temp is lower than the gas mixtures dewpoint temp
look at a cars exhaust on a cold dry day
Looks just the same as the video
Once hot the dewpoint temp < than ambient and it stops
Put the resonator back on
If it goes away it was the pipes
If not the dealer lost his excuse
Win-win
If in the cylinder he would be losing coolant and/or oil
He is not
Head gasket you would see bubbles in the expansion tank most likely
I don't think it's a problem
How long does it last?
How long has the car sat?
Cold outside? Is it worse'
The pvc system serves/is common to, both banks
Last edited by Ingenieur; Aug 2, 2014 at 04:48 PM.
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He said he made an appointment to have the resonator put on
Appointment made 7/21 for 7/23
Then a few days later on 7/25 he went to the dealer and they blamed it on the resonator?
The op argued the lack of resonator could not be the problem since it was for sound control only
Must not be on?
Perhaps I missed it
Appointment made 7/21 for 7/23
Then a few days later on 7/25 he went to the dealer and they blamed it on the resonator?
The op argued the lack of resonator could not be the problem since it was for sound control only
Must not be on?
Perhaps I missed it
Last edited by Ingenieur; Aug 2, 2014 at 05:01 PM.
