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Let me get this straight
All the same dyno the same day
Baseline ~343
W/tune ~ 360 plus 15 HP (20 at the crank)
Replace air filters with less used ones -385 Plus 25 HP (30-35 crank)
So the estimated baseline w/o the tune but with the filters ~ 365-370
Either way tune is worth 20-25 HP or so tune only
This makes sense if the tune replicates the E63 oem tune
Basically the oem C63 is the E63 tune with the throttle limited > 5000 rpm
E63 ~ 515 HP
Close to the P31 480 plus 25 from the tune
question: the C63 is 6.2 NA and the E63 is 5.5 biturbo, correct?
question: the C63 is 6.2 NA and the E63 is 5.5 biturbo, correct?
The previous E63 (among many others) used the m156 6.2 rated at 507 to 518 hp depending on MY
Afaik the C was the only one it was derated in
In special versions they loosened the limiter
P31 481
507 507 lol
C63 BS IIRC is 510?
Last edited by Ingenieur; Jul 31, 2014 at 09:20 PM.
Razzy 388 WHP on a tuned P31 should seems a bit low. With a completely stock car you should be doing between 410-420 on that dyno.
Remember there variances in dyno's / weather etc.
Take a look at my run, on the same dyno you did yours at (Euorcharged Toronto)
I have a 2010 non P31 car.
So you are pushing 438 whp after tune. The car is stock?
Slav said for a P31 stock without tune should be baselinimg at about 360whp. I was at 338whp baseline.
What about maintenance? I sure as hell am severely low. Any concretev ideas as to why I would be posting such low numbers? I know i need new filters but besides that everything else is conjecture.
Lastly, what does service A0 require? Is that the second or third service?
No I have Renntech Intakes + AFE Filters + Secondary Cat Delete + Eisenmann race setup.
I baselined without the tune over 380WHP (the stock pulls are on the graph I Posted).
Originally Posted by Razzy
So you are pushing 438 whp after tune. The car is stock?
Slav said for a P31 stock without tune should be baselinimg at about 360whp. I was at 338whp baseline.
What about maintenance? I sure as hell am severely low. Any concretev ideas as to why I would be posting such low numbers? I know i need new filters but besides that everything else is conjecture.
Lastly, what does service A0 require? Is that the second or third service?
dyno's are measurement tools, not to be compared against one another. looks like steady gains nothing to be upset with.
Another P31 sedan with the same Eurocharged V5 tune on the same dyno at the same shop is bound to be compared to one another. I'm just worried as to why my baseline is so low for a P31. I guess some investigating is in order. I just hope it's nothing costly or major. I've barely had the car for a month.
What about maintenance? I sure as hell am severely low. Any concretev ideas as to why I would be posting such low numbers? I know i need new filters but besides that everything else is conjecture.
Lastly, what does service A0 require? Is that the second or third service?
I would hope that you'd have some service history documentation with 36K miles... There's no service history?
actually i just remembered...along time ago EC/OE told everyone to drive the car semi hard for 1,000-1,500 KM ...I just realized that they do get more agressive as you drive...I switched tunes like 2-3 weeks ago and the car drove kinda sloppy for the last 2 weeks (basically felt slow as hell) but this last week it's been driving super agressive..like it should be..so I think there may actually be a period where the ECU adjusts it self some how.
Drive around down shifting like a mad man and red line the **** out of the car...do it for a week then report back.
You won't do any damage..I had a blown intake manifold and beat on the car more and didn't make it any worse
Last edited by avery.whss; Aug 2, 2014 at 12:40 PM.
actually i just remembered...along time ago EC/OE told everyone to drive the car semi hard for 1,000-1,500 KM ...I just realized that they do get more agressive as you drive...I switched tunes like 2-3 weeks ago and the car drove kinda sloppy for the last 2 weeks (basically felt slow as hell) but this last week it's been driving super agressive..like it should be..so I think there may actually be a period where the ECU adjusts it self some how.
Drive around down shifting like a mad man and red line the **** out of the car...do it for a week then report back.
You won't do any damage..I had a blown intake manifold and beat on the car more and didn't make it any worse
The car already felt more aggresive the moment i drove it out of the shop. Slav at eurocharged also told me to drive it hard for a bit but never specified as to how long.
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