Twin 507 Coupe Pics - Used 507 for Sale
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I just stated my preference... Yes, the 507 is an awesome car. However, for me, this is why I don't need those "extra" bits...
1 & 2 were hood and tune.
3 - wheels - Yes, cool wheels. End of the day they are still just OEM and I like to think of myself as a wheel ***** when I have the spare change laying around. So, I always end up with aftermarket wheels.
4 - Red calipers - So I can just paint mine. I don't track the car, it's my dd. And I'll save 4 figures when I replace rotors and pads.
5 - single fin grille - ... Facelift all come with those.
6 - black mirrors / spoiler - I have a CF spoiler and mirrors are easy.
7 - alcanatara comes with a PP facelift (minus the shifter I think, which is cool)
8 - Headlights - this was the original issue. Halogens = no go no way.
9 - stickers - 2 Fast 2 Furious for me.
For ***ME*** I'm better off with a standard C63 w/ headlight package. I'm not tracking the car and I'm not supercharging it. While we all buy it with hopes and dreams to, I just know I wont. Also, for those who live and die by keeping a car stock, that's respectable. All mod's I'd do are easily reversible.
So what am I out that I like on the 507? A hood and a tune. And if it means I have to buy a base C63 and add those because a BASE c63 comes with the headlight package and a 507 doesn't then so be it.
Seriously, IDK what that guy is on, or what he has discovered. But, if he is finding all of these CBS' well under $100k then he should buy, and flip them, making $20k on each. Would be tough though because when I went C63 shopping I was looking for BS' and really didn't find ANYTHING.
1 & 2 were hood and tune.
3 - wheels - Yes, cool wheels. End of the day they are still just OEM and I like to think of myself as a wheel ***** when I have the spare change laying around. So, I always end up with aftermarket wheels.
4 - Red calipers - So I can just paint mine. I don't track the car, it's my dd. And I'll save 4 figures when I replace rotors and pads.
5 - single fin grille - ... Facelift all come with those.
6 - black mirrors / spoiler - I have a CF spoiler and mirrors are easy.
7 - alcanatara comes with a PP facelift (minus the shifter I think, which is cool)
8 - Headlights - this was the original issue. Halogens = no go no way.
9 - stickers - 2 Fast 2 Furious for me.
For ***ME*** I'm better off with a standard C63 w/ headlight package. I'm not tracking the car and I'm not supercharging it. While we all buy it with hopes and dreams to, I just know I wont. Also, for those who live and die by keeping a car stock, that's respectable. All mod's I'd do are easily reversible.
So what am I out that I like on the 507? A hood and a tune. And if it means I have to buy a base C63 and add those because a BASE c63 comes with the headlight package and a 507 doesn't then so be it.
Seriously, IDK what that guy is on, or what he has discovered. But, if he is finding all of these CBS' well under $100k then he should buy, and flip them, making $20k on each. Would be tough though because when I went C63 shopping I was looking for BS' and really didn't find ANYTHING.
Purple, I agree with your opinion. It's a lot of common sense... +1 on that.
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Seriously, IDK what that guy is on, or what he has discovered. But, if he is finding all of these CBS' well under $100k then he should buy, and flip them, making $20k on each. Would be tough though because when I went C63 shopping I was looking for BS' and really didn't find ANYTHING.
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He is one of those people that talk out the side of their azz with no facts to back it up. GreenLantern over on PL regularly posts every C BS classified listing he finds in North America, I can post up the past 12 months worth of C BS listings and show this guy exactly what every car listed for and in some cases what it sold for. The aero package C BS's are still fetching over $100k even at wholesale auctions. The guy is a short bus riding, drooling, rosey cheeked tard
I'll have to go check out GreenLantern
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Please enlighten me and show me where the P31 package have forged internals
Interesting that no one seems to catch onto the forged internal parts yet.....
Interesting that no one seems to catch onto the forged internal parts yet.....
The "special" parts that you have listed are all part of the P31 package. The forged wheels and vented aluminum hood is what differentiates the 507 to P31 packages. Everything else is fluff. That's up to the potential buyer to decide if a 507 package car with missing equipment is special enough to pick over a properly equiped P31 car.
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http://www.benzblogger.com/2009/11/2010-c63-amg-p31-performance-package-replaces-p30.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mercedes-benz-c-class-review-c63-amg-with-development-pack-test
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In the end, the 507 isn't much different from the P31. The C63 BS, now that is a significant different. A 507 is a slighlty tweaked version of the P31. Essentially MB AMG wanted these cars out the door as the last hoorah and this is how they did it. By doing a tune, hood vents and different set of rims. Oh let's not forget the almoghty stripe down the sidesill.
Don't get me wrong, I like all C63's. Even the "normal" base one. But let's not overdo the 507 thing shall we.
The C63 BS is plenty streetable and is the ultimate C63. Not the 507. And any car without the lighting package I wouldn't touch. Even if it's a 507.
I did a tune and added AFE filters. I am well above the HP and TRQ figures for the 507.
If the 507 hasn't been a "put together" I would have bought one instead of the P31. Instead, I got a P31 with every option as opposed to a 507 that would be short a couple of ticked boxes in the options list.
Don't get me wrong, I like all C63's. Even the "normal" base one. But let's not overdo the 507 thing shall we.
The C63 BS is plenty streetable and is the ultimate C63. Not the 507. And any car without the lighting package I wouldn't touch. Even if it's a 507.
I did a tune and added AFE filters. I am well above the HP and TRQ figures for the 507.
If the 507 hasn't been a "put together" I would have bought one instead of the P31. Instead, I got a P31 with every option as opposed to a 507 that would be short a couple of ticked boxes in the options list.
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Look at the 12-14 C63. It's the same as the 507 essentially. The 507 is just lipstick put on to get the final models purchased and out. Also, the C63 BS and the 507? Hmmm....
MB didn't even care enough to give the 507 CF mirrors, spoiler. It's just bits that are painted gloss black. At least they did with the Affalterbach edition. Shows that MB just wanted these cars out and gone...Some fancy snowflake wheels? I would rather have aftermarket ( HRE,etc) which would be cheaper and better quality. MB OEM wheels are notorious for cracking.
$90k for a C class taxi cab with stickers and some hood vents?!? You are talking GTR category here...
To each their own. I love the C63 in any model it is. The 507 is a cool variant! I actually love the sedan version. But be fair and call it what it is...
MB didn't even care enough to give the 507 CF mirrors, spoiler. It's just bits that are painted gloss black. At least they did with the Affalterbach edition. Shows that MB just wanted these cars out and gone...Some fancy snowflake wheels? I would rather have aftermarket ( HRE,etc) which would be cheaper and better quality. MB OEM wheels are notorious for cracking.
$90k for a C class taxi cab with stickers and some hood vents?!? You are talking GTR category here...
To each their own. I love the C63 in any model it is. The 507 is a cool variant! I actually love the sedan version. But be fair and call it what it is...
I went to look at the 507 last year at a nearby dealership & asked them how much it would cost me to "upgrade" from my 2010.. They offered me 40k$ for my car with all the mods & wanted me to add 50k+ for the 507.. I LOL. Sry but the 507 is a special edition car, but not so special in my eyes.
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C63 AMG 507 Edition
To my knowledge, the only material differences between the BS and the 507 are:
- Improved oil cooler
- Wider rear tyres (actually the only one that counts for me)
- Improved suspension
- Optional aero
There are downsides also (depending on perspective):
- Parking sensors
- Coupe only
- No back seat?
No doubt its better than a 507, but by about the same amount a 507 is better than a PP, and a PP to a base C63.
- Improved oil cooler
- Wider rear tyres (actually the only one that counts for me)
- Improved suspension
- Optional aero
There are downsides also (depending on perspective):
- Parking sensors
- Coupe only
- No back seat?
No doubt its better than a 507, but by about the same amount a 507 is better than a PP, and a PP to a base C63.
In the end, the 507 isn't much different from the P31. The C63 BS, now that is a significant different. A 507 is a slighlty tweaked version of the P31. Essentially MB AMG wanted these cars out the door as the last hoorah and this is how they did it. By doing a tune, hood vents and different set of rims. Oh let's not forget the almoghty stripe down the sidesill.
Don't get me wrong, I like all C63's. Even the "normal" base one. But let's not overdo the 507 thing shall we.
The C63 BS is plenty streetable and is the ultimate C63. Not the 507. And any car without the lighting package I wouldn't touch. Even if it's a 507.
I did a tune and added AFE filters. I am well above the HP and TRQ figures for the 507.
If the 507 hasn't been a "put together" I would have bought one instead of the P31. Instead, I got a P31 with every option as opposed to a 507 that would be short a couple of ticked boxes in the options list.
Don't get me wrong, I like all C63's. Even the "normal" base one. But let's not overdo the 507 thing shall we.
The C63 BS is plenty streetable and is the ultimate C63. Not the 507. And any car without the lighting package I wouldn't touch. Even if it's a 507.
I did a tune and added AFE filters. I am well above the HP and TRQ figures for the 507.
If the 507 hasn't been a "put together" I would have bought one instead of the P31. Instead, I got a P31 with every option as opposed to a 507 that would be short a couple of ticked boxes in the options list.
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Btw, my car is still cheaper after all my mods (CF everywhere + custom made HRE monoblock forged).. Even with a tune.. I would come out like 10k$ cheaper after a 507 with taxes/out the door.
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To my knowledge, the only material differences between the BS and the 507 are:
- Improved oil cooler
- Wider rear tyres (actually the only one that counts for me)
- Improved suspension
- Optional aero
There are downsides also (depending on perspective):
- Parking sensors
- Coupe only
- No back seat?
No doubt its better than a 507, but by about the same amount a 507 is better than a PP, and a PP to a base C63.
- Improved oil cooler
- Wider rear tyres (actually the only one that counts for me)
- Improved suspension
- Optional aero
There are downsides also (depending on perspective):
- Parking sensors
- Coupe only
- No back seat?
No doubt its better than a 507, but by about the same amount a 507 is better than a PP, and a PP to a base C63.
The P31 and 507 are almost identicle save a few things. Than again, they are also retailing for more on the lightly used/CPO market.
#36
His words were "what you mean 507, if you are talking about that C63, than yea its a C63, the 507 is just sales talk and for the sales guys to deal with. I know the M156. Whether it's a 507 or not is just semantics"
Now you guys can make of that what you will.
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Next time do your own homework.
http://www.benzblogger.com/2009/11/2...laces-p30.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ment-pack-test
http://www.benzblogger.com/2009/11/2...laces-p30.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ment-pack-test
Here is another article for Kriston to read up on.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_package.html
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I don't see the current C63 value dropping like a rock when the new ones come out like you guys seem to think. The 4.0TT is going to start at $70k minimum. I just went and checked out the new C400 and it is a real improvement. Even the stuck on iPad wasn't so bad in person. But they raised the price to go with the improvement. So I think that will help our cars maintain some value for a little while longer.
On the "ultimate" discussion, the 507 is the ultimate (last and best) C63 sedan. The end.
On the "ultimate" discussion, the 507 is the ultimate (last and best) C63 sedan. The end.
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I stand corrected gents, thank you.
You learn something new every day.
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Here is another article for Kriston to read up on.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_package.html
You learn something new every day.
kris
Here is another article for Kriston to read up on.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_package.html
Next time do your own homework.
http://www.benzblogger.com/2009/11/2...laces-p30.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ment-pack-test
http://www.benzblogger.com/2009/11/2...laces-p30.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ment-pack-test
#41
People should know that the next time they see a C63 P31, they should tread carefully. For example in my case, I'm outputting more power and torque than a a 507 just by doing a $700 tune from Eurocharged.
Even than the 481hp stock on P31 is nothing to slouch at. I feel bad for anyone wanting to "play" with any C63 let alone a P31 and above.
I do get the average econo car trying to egg me on though lol. Sadly where I am there are not too many cars on the road that could or would even be willing to "go at it"
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I had one of the first C63 in Canada, my brother had a 2011 C63 and he now owns a 507 sedan and he is known around here as Coladin. I consider myself as an experienced owner of the AMG brand and a fanatic of the brand. I have been around three generations of C63 and can surmise that the 507 is a bit notch above the regular if you will. It feels faster, sounds louder and overall is more in your face. This is not a seat of the pants thing, but for real. Ever since this 507 was introduced I have read countless threads here about it being a waste of money, and my P31 is the same thing, or a C63 with a tune is faster etc...what I have noticed is that everyone who doesn't own a 507 are the ones justifying themselves. Get over yourselves, the 507 is better and not just a parts bin junkie.
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I had one of the first C63 in Canada, my brother had a 2011 C63 and he now owns a 507 sedan and he is known around here as Coladin. I consider myself as an experienced owner of the AMG brand and a fanatic of the brand. I have been around three generations of C63 and can surmise that the 507 is a bit notch above the regular if you will. It feels faster, sounds louder and overall is more in your face. This is not a seat of the pants thing, but for real. Ever since this 507 was introduced I have read countless threads here about it being a waste of money, and my P31 is the same thing, or a C63 with a tune is faster etc...what I have noticed is that everyone who doesn't own a 507 are the ones justifying themselves. Get over yourselves, the 507 is better and not just a parts bin junkie.
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C63 AMG 507 Edition
I had one of the first C63 in Canada, my brother had a 2011 C63 and he now owns a 507 sedan and he is known around here as Coladin. I consider myself as an experienced owner of the AMG brand and a fanatic of the brand. I have been around three generations of C63 and can surmise that the 507 is a bit notch above the regular if you will. It feels faster, sounds louder and overall is more in your face. This is not a seat of the pants thing, but for real. Ever since this 507 was introduced I have read countless threads here about it being a waste of money, and my P31 is the same thing, or a C63 with a tune is faster etc...what I have noticed is that everyone who doesn't own a 507 are the ones justifying themselves. Get over yourselves, the 507 is better and not just a parts bin junkie.
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I had one of the first C63 in Canada, my brother had a 2011 C63 and he now owns a 507 sedan and he is known around here as Coladin. I consider myself as an experienced owner of the AMG brand and a fanatic of the brand. I have been around three generations of C63 and can surmise that the 507 is a bit notch above the regular if you will. It feels faster, sounds louder and overall is more in your face. This is not a seat of the pants thing, but for real. Ever since this 507 was introduced I have read countless threads here about it being a waste of money, and my P31 is the same thing, or a C63 with a tune is faster etc...what I have noticed is that everyone who doesn't own a 507 are the ones justifying themselves. Get over yourselves, the 507 is better and not just a parts bin junkie.
By the same token, it is always the 507 owners trying to justify the higher amount of money they spent by saying that it's a all high and mighty car. I don't really care personally to be honest, I am happy with mine and most likely will change it in a little while. But just wanted to point out that the argument you made can be stated both ways. Just in this thread for example, pretty much all non 507 owners talking about the 507 not being special and the 507 owners defending it as much as possible. To each their own I say, enjoy whatever you have, seriously.
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By the same token, it is always the 507 owners trying to justify the higher amount of money they spent by saying that it's a all high and mighty car. I don't really care personally to be honest, I am happy with mine and most likely will change it in a little while. But just wanted to point out that the argument you made can be stated both ways. Just in this thread for example, pretty much all non 507 owners talking about the 507 not being special and the 507 owners defending it as much as possible. To each their own I say, enjoy whatever you have, seriously.
They all start out as a base model and you add options.
Then it comes down to what knowledge the buyer is going in with. There are also many different types of buyers. I will also be the first to admit that I did not know every little in and out of a C63 when I bought my first one. However, approaching my second C63 was a different story.
Obviously you decide if you want sedan or coupe.
The next biggest thing (for me) was PP or not. I do not track the car and I also have no plans to supercharge. No PP it is. I'll take the cheaper brakes all day long. So I miss out on forged internals. Doesn't matter because the car wont see that kind of power.
Next, headlights. Oh my god. Sorry guys with halogens... I get some of you just went for it because everything else was perfect. For me, it could have been the deal of a century on a 507/BS whatever but if it had halogens I am not buying it.
As for the 507. I think it is a little unfortunate that it got branded as a type of a C63 rather than what it really is, a package. For instance, generally people with PP C63's just say "I have a C63." Then later will add it has the performance pack. Someone with a 507 says "I have a 507" when really you have a C63 with a 507 package.
With that out of the way, I'm not talking down on 507's as though they are a bad value. For some people they are a great value ESPECIALLY if you do not want to modify or risk the warranty.
I mentioned earlier that this doesn't matter to me. A tune + headers and I have more power than a 507 and furthermore, in theory, a 507 with a tune + headers has the same power as I do. All I am missing really is the hood which I can obviously get cheaper than a 507.
It is all a matter of who the buyer is and how educated they are particularly with the knowledge of what exactly they want.
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I have been reading this thread, am I correct in stating that both the black series and 507 come in wide body edition. The extra tire width in the rear is so important to handle the power. Wide body kits and installation are expensive, come with fit issues, and are plastic instead of aluminum. They are great for your own use but add nothing to resale and 50 years from now the car will have to sell as a stupid tribute car at half the price of a 507. Voided warrantees, lost resale value, botched mods are all things to consider.
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C63 AMG 507 Edition
I have been reading this thread, am I correct in stating that both the black series and 507 come in wide body edition. The extra tire width in the rear is so important to handle the power. Wide body kits and installation are expensive, come with fit issues, and are plastic instead of aluminum. They are great for your own use but add nothing to resale and 50 years from now the car will have to sell as a stupid tribute car at half the price of a 507. Voided warrantees, lost resale value, botched mods are all things to consider.
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I have been reading this thread, am I correct in stating that both the black series and 507 come in wide body edition. The extra tire width in the rear is so important to handle the power. Wide body kits and installation are expensive, come with fit issues, and are plastic instead of aluminum. They are great for your own use but add nothing to resale and 50 years from now the car will have to sell as a stupid tribute car at half the price of a 507. Voided warrantees, lost resale value, botched mods are all things to consider.
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By the same token, it is always the 507 owners trying to justify the higher amount of money they spent by saying that it's a all high and mighty car. I don't really care personally to be honest, I am happy with mine and most likely will change it in a little while. But just wanted to point out that the argument you made can be stated both ways. Just in this thread for example, pretty much all non 507 owners talking about the 507 not being special and the 507 owners defending it as much as possible. To each their own I say, enjoy whatever you have, seriously.