Look at the details and you'll see that the new car will have no M mode for the auto. Using the paddles will temporarily put the gearbox into manual mode but it will default back to auto after a few minutes. That's madness to me. The M mode is the thing I use most in the car. If that's what it takes to achieve those class-leading economy and emissions figures then they can keep it. I want a fully manual mode please!

 

sorry double post mods please delete...

 

[QUOTE=silversleeper48;6179704]Wow, Great Find!!!!!!! I missed that detail... That is ridiculous I guess they want a new Customer base for the new 2015 AMG C63 (do not know what segment they are trying to target though).... Since there are going to be two Price points a base AMG C63 and a AMG C63/S We all know that S version is going to be the one all everyone is going to base the performance test etc and think that it's probably going be in the $90k range wants optioned out.... You can buy 1.5 M3 or M4's for that kind of money and have all the bells and whistles. I think that Function works only when you are in Efficiency mode, but if you are in Sport or Sport+ it works as it does in the W204 models... What is unacceptable is that if you want RACE Mode you have to Purchase a AMG C63/S.... Please correct me if I am wrong...

now even faster in its reaction times.
Be it automatic or triggered at the steering wheel paddle by the driver, a manual up or down-shift is now noticeably faster than in the last model. The transmission is now significantly more spontaneous in the “Sport +” and manual modes in particular.

This increase in responsiveness was enabled by optimisation of the transmission’s hardware and software. Also, the aluminium shift paddles on the Performance steering wheel are now able to transmit the driver’s shift inputs even faster than before, thus further increasing the dynamic feel.

One look at the drive programmes shows the high variability of the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission.

The available choices are “Controlled Efficiency”, “Sport” and “Sport +” – as well as “Race”, which is exclusive to the C 63 S. The driver chooses from the various drive programmes with the aid of the AMG DYNAMIC SELECT switch.

]The “temporary M” function, activated by using the paddles, delivers a further increase in dynamics.



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Originally Posted by GSEH88 View Post
Look at the details and you'll see that the new car will have no M mode for the auto. Using the paddles will temporarily put the gearbox into manual mode but it will default back to auto after a few minutes. That's madness to me. The M mode is the thing I use most in the car. If that's what it takes to achieve those class-leading economy and emissions figures then they can keep it. I want a fully manual mode please!

 

True. There will be AMG-lite versions, just like bmw's m sport and audi's s-line.

 

You're confusing this with a temporary manual mode that is triggered automatically when the paddles are used when in auto mode. Every modern BMW and Audi I've driven has had this feature - click the paddle while in auto and it will give you temporary paddle control. When you stop using the paddles, it will revert back to auto. However, once you switch into the manual setting, the transmission stays and does not revert back to auto.

The C63 and C63S has a dedicated "M" button that keeps the transmission in manual mode as long as it's engaged:

 

Alex, I realise current C63s and all auto cars have a temporary manual override mode but my concern for the new model comes from this week's Autocar which specifically states that there will not be any permanent manual mode, only a temporary override. Having said that, your pic of the button with "M" on it has restored some hope for me. It seems strange that there is a single button solely for the manual mode though. If it is just the button which scrolls through the gearbox modes then I'm still very worried. I just hope Autocar has made a mistake. If someone points me to any reference by AMG to a permanent Manual mode that would make my day. So far I've only seen mentions of the temporary manual mode which appears to back up Autocar's assertion.

 

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...usive-pictures

Combined with remote steering wheel-mounted aluminium shift paddles, it offers the driver the choice of up to five different modes via a so-called AMG Dynamic Select programme: C (controlled efficiency), S (sport), S+ (sport plus) and, exclusively in the C63 S, R (race).

An additional manual mode can be accessed via the shift paddles, although the gearbox is programmed to revert back to full automatic operation for improved fuel economy savings.

 

Thanks, that's the passage I'm referring to.

 

 

I'm guessing this isn't saying what you're reading. All of our cars "revert" back to automatic at stop/start, so I'm guessing that's what their vague writing most likely refers to. I don't think ANYONE would tolerate a vehicle like this without a manual mode.

I think it's a misinterpretation (and the writing is somewhat poor), so take a chill pill and we'll see what happens as more info becomes available.

 

If you read that statement it says there are up to 5 different transmission shift modes but only lists four. C, S ,S+ and R (C63S only). Whoever wrote it omitted M mode and it wasn't caught in any edit. Then they go on to talk about manual mode when using the paddle shifters reverting back to full auto mode to conserve fuel. This just caused further confusion, doubt and concern in the mind of the reader.

There is a write up on the face page on the Private Lounge where this question was raised as well by members commenting on the factory introduction to the Mercedes-AMG C63. MBUSA William Vetter commented in reply that there will be a dedicated M Mode for the transmission. I hope the Private Lounge does not mind that I borrowed the quote to post here.

"Originally Posted by MBUSA William Vetter
The manual mode is available however the 'momentary manual mode' that they speak of applies to the C/S/S+ modes"


Unfortunately Mr Vetter also said "Sorry! The Estate/Wagon will not be coming to the USA in any variant"

 

I figured it was confusion. There's no WAY they'd release a car like this without a manual mode. There'd be riots in the streets

I knew the estate wouldn't make it here, however. Not big enough of a market. Station wagons (as they were affectionately known here for years, prior to their going the way of the Dodo by and large, and being replaced by SUVs, etc.) just don't appeal to enough here, not that they aren't practical, and awesome in this spec

 

Is it me or do the brakes look smaller, most specifically the rear?

 

Nope, not just you, but I believe this is consistent with my '14 C63 too. Since the fronts require far more stopping power I think this is how they've been designed. I'm certainly no brake expert, however, but they look the same as my stock setup. Except for the pics of the model with carbon ceramic, with calipers colored orange or whatever the heck color that is, of course.

 

The base w204 has diameters of F/R 14.2/13.0
The w205 14.2/13 the same
I'll try to find the spec text

internally ventilated and perforated brake discs (size: 360mm/330mm – front/rear)

 

This one is different?

Both have beefy brakes, with 390mm discs at the front and 360mm at the rear, and a carbon ceramic option

????
15.3/14.2

 

Holy Crap!

S has 516lbs ft of torque and is 250lbs lighter than the previous generation. And I thought mine went through tires fast.

 

At least the standard LSD should equalize wear

 

The W204 C63 has 6-piston fixed Brembo calipers up front with 4-piston fixed Brembo calipers in the rear.

The W205 C63 also has 6-piston fixed Brembo calipers up front.

However, the W205 has a single-piston sliding caliper in the rear (as does the new S63 Coupe and the new AMG GT).

Front brakes are where it is at.

 

Did you guys notice the AMG badge is on the LEFT side of the trunk !! Weeeeird

 

lol i find it weird that they reversed it too