How often do you change your oil?
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Unless you're talking about the new P85D, it won't. It can't even keep up with a base C63. It has less power, it weighs an extra 800 lbs and tops out at 210 km/h.
The P85D with its ~700 hp and 4WD is a different beast altogether. That will leave anything in the dust, but again it doesn't corner well because of all the extra weight.
Now, comparing the two is really more of an apples and oranges thing than anything else. The fact that Tesla has managed to build even the P85 is a great accomplishment; the P85D is on another level altogether. I'd love to own either one and use it as a DD. The problem with fully electric cars is that unlike a C63 you can't just stop by at the nearet gas station and in 5 minutes have juice for the next 350 km - the Tesla has to charge 1 hour for every 35 km, so 10 hours for 350 km (assuming that you have a 240V charging station, otherwise it's even longer). The ONLY thing holding back electrics is the charging time for the batteries, and unfortunately it's the big oil companies that are severely hampering the development of new fast-charge battery technologies. If it wasn't for the trillions of dollars that big oil makes annually, a $100 billion annual R&D fund could likely develop batteries that would make internal combustion engines obsolete in 5 years. Just as a reference point, big pharma spent $112 billion on R&D in 2013. Volkswagen on their own spent $11.4 billion (Daimler did $6.6 billion) - so it's certainly doable if it wasn't for the economic and thus political obstacles.
The P85D with its ~700 hp and 4WD is a different beast altogether. That will leave anything in the dust, but again it doesn't corner well because of all the extra weight.
Now, comparing the two is really more of an apples and oranges thing than anything else. The fact that Tesla has managed to build even the P85 is a great accomplishment; the P85D is on another level altogether. I'd love to own either one and use it as a DD. The problem with fully electric cars is that unlike a C63 you can't just stop by at the nearet gas station and in 5 minutes have juice for the next 350 km - the Tesla has to charge 1 hour for every 35 km, so 10 hours for 350 km (assuming that you have a 240V charging station, otherwise it's even longer). The ONLY thing holding back electrics is the charging time for the batteries, and unfortunately it's the big oil companies that are severely hampering the development of new fast-charge battery technologies. If it wasn't for the trillions of dollars that big oil makes annually, a $100 billion annual R&D fund could likely develop batteries that would make internal combustion engines obsolete in 5 years. Just as a reference point, big pharma spent $112 billion on R&D in 2013. Volkswagen on their own spent $11.4 billion (Daimler did $6.6 billion) - so it's certainly doable if it wasn't for the economic and thus political obstacles.
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Diabolis, yeah I'm talking about that one that goes 0-60 in 3.2 or whatever stupid number. I'm not very familiar with tesla because I'd rather hear what I'm driving. I have a ford edge that creeps me out because I can't hear it half the time.
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A few summers ago I was fortunate enough to have a Fisker Karma at my disposal for the better part of two months, and it was indeed eerie driving the first 40 km in silent mode until the gas engine kicked in - and then it became ever weirder, because the engine RPMs had nothing to do with how you drove. It woulck kick on and off at random intervals revving at a constant RPM, driving a generator to recharge the batteries and/or supply juice to the electric motors. It drove me bat5h!t, but it was an eye-opening experience.
ToxicXXX - sorry about the off-topic excursion. The Leafs suck too.
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Yeah - that thing is supposed to be a beast.
A few summers ago I was fortunate enough to have a Fisker Karma at my disposal for the better part of two months, and it was indeed eerie driving the first 40 km in silent mode until the gas engine kicked in - and then it became ever weirder, because the engine RPMs had nothing to do with how you drove. It woulck kick on and off at random intervals revving at a constant RPM, driving a generator to recharge the batteries and/or supply juice to the electric motors. It drove me bat5h!t, but it was an eye-opening experience.
ToxicXXX - sorry about the off-topic excursion. The Leafs suck too.
A few summers ago I was fortunate enough to have a Fisker Karma at my disposal for the better part of two months, and it was indeed eerie driving the first 40 km in silent mode until the gas engine kicked in - and then it became ever weirder, because the engine RPMs had nothing to do with how you drove. It woulck kick on and off at random intervals revving at a constant RPM, driving a generator to recharge the batteries and/or supply juice to the electric motors. It drove me bat5h!t, but it was an eye-opening experience.
ToxicXXX - sorry about the off-topic excursion. The Leafs suck too.
