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Adi-Benz 02-20-2017 12:11 PM

My point is that I've seen places selling it for like $50/yard online. Compare to fake suede, just for example, it is $13/yard to a relatively big gap. This is definitely something worth doing right, just was suprised that they were selling it for that much.

BLKROKT 02-20-2017 12:21 PM

Ah, got it. I didn't think there was another source for genuine Alcantara. I think those guys are the exclusive US distributor but I could be wrong.

Adi-Benz 02-20-2017 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7061781)
Ah, got it. I didn't think there was another source for genuine Alcantara. I think those guys are the exclusive US distributor but I could be wrong.

No prob, I don't quite remember who was selling the 50$ one so it could be from outside of US.

Just for reference, http://jalopnik.com/what-the-hell-is...way-1604799947

Having trouble finding if Ultrasuede is a more cost effective solution :smash:


Edit: maybe this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ECO-AUTOMOTI...-/221178452709

Edit again: I guess some stuff was lost in translation but its a fake alternative I suppose.
Not the one I originally saw but hey, something to read.

BLKROKT 02-20-2017 01:35 PM

Eh. For $200 vs $100 I'm not going to lose any sleep over getting the Alcantara, which I know will work great, with the right durability, color and thickness, versus taking a blind shot on something which might turn out to be crap.

Adi-Benz 02-20-2017 01:44 PM

Agreed. I have time next weekend so I might be able to pull a few things together and get started. This of course is dependent on if my car won't be in the shop / or looking for new car to replace it.

BLKROKT 02-20-2017 01:48 PM

Good luck. I'd like to do this but I have a HID headlight project that's currently in a million pieces that I'll never get finished if I get started on this too. Keep us updated.

SuperFastYo 02-20-2017 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7061872)
Good luck. I'd like to do this but I have a HID headlight project that's currently in a million pieces that I'll never get finished if I get started on this too. Keep us updated.

I wanna see the headlight project!

BLKROKT 02-20-2017 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by SuperFastYo (Post 7061874)
I wanna see the headlight project!

Will post in another thread. It's complicated....

BLKROKT 02-21-2017 10:31 PM

Good DIY here as well: http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ower-dash.html

BLKROKT 02-22-2017 08:21 AM

Another one here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458...r-project.html

I'm ordering the Alcantara today, **** it. I think the color "anthracite" should do it - it's between "jet black" and "dark charcoal". This should take no more than a day to do. Will let you guys know what I find when I start pulling the dash apart.

Adi-Benz 02-22-2017 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7063533)


Good catch. A good tip he mentioned is using painters tape and then spraying adhesive on top of that, so the dash won't be damaged (and if we bollocks it up, it can be easily removed)

BLKROKT 02-22-2017 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Adi-Benz (Post 7063749)
Good catch. A good tip he mentioned is using painters tape and then spraying adhesive on top of that, so the dash won't be damaged (and if we bollocks it up, it can be easily removed)

The Ferrari guy was going to lay down some 1/8" neoprene first for a bit of cushion. I think that might give a better smoother surface for the alcantara to adhere to. But then you run the risk of two different delamination events, plus the dash will be significantly thicker. I'm not so worried about messing up the dash, I just don't care that much, but I may look for a junkyard donor. Decisions decisions....

And the airbag area should be easy. You can see in pics that the passenger side airbag comes out of the dash in a defined way along defined lines. If I cut it right and just glue it back down, the cut lines should be practically invisible.

Adi-Benz 02-22-2017 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7063741)
Another one here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458...r-project.html

I'm ordering the Alcantara today, **** it. I think the color "anthracite" should do it - it's between "jet black" and "dark charcoal". This should take no more than a day to do. Will let you guys know what I find when I start pulling the dash apart.

Do it! Make sure to take pics of where clips and stuff our for both our and your reference, you don't want any squeaks so be careful!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w204/507518-dashboard-removal.html

this guy wanted to do similar but the thread died, shame when they never post conclusion

BLKROKT 02-22-2017 08:38 AM

Yeah I still haven't found a good step-by-step of a W204 dashboard removal, only one for a W203 where the guy had to replace his evaporator core. Can't be so much different, but you're right that there are a lot of hidden clips inside the vents etc

Adi-Benz 02-22-2017 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7063758)
The Ferrari guy was going to lay down some 1/8" neoprene first for a bit of cushion. I think that might give a better smoother surface for the alcantara to adhere to. But then you run the risk of two different delamination events, plus the dash will be significantly thicker. I'm not so worried about messing up the dash, I just don't care that much, but I may look for a junkyard donor. Decisions decisions....

And the airbag area should be easy. You can see in pics that the passenger side airbag comes out of the dash in a defined way along defined lines. If I cut it right and just glue it back down, the cut lines should be practically invisible.

I noticed the airbag area as well. I also considered underlayment (such as a cotton type thing) to give it some cushion but I figured that would make it a bigger pita.

Adi-Benz 02-22-2017 08:46 AM

Closest thing I could find; facelift, so no help for me lol but it might help you

https://youtu.be/ST0Ux5a-M4o

Adi-Benz 02-24-2017 12:17 PM

Are you gonna do stitching?

BLKROKT 02-24-2017 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Adi-Benz (Post 7065947)
Are you gonna do stitching?

Nope. Don't care for it that much and trying to keep it simple. Just want the shiny plastic covered.

Adi-Benz 02-24-2017 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7065962)
Nope. Don't care for it that much and trying to keep it simple. Just want the shiny plastic covered.

Gotcha. In my case I think it would be ideal for me to do stitching just cause the design would flow better with leather, but it is a lot of extra work 🤓😖 lol

BLKROKT 02-25-2017 11:57 AM

Not a W204, but this might help: http://bayhas.com/mercedes/w211/cont..._dashboard.htm

Someone posted something like this once for the W204 C63 from one of those super-old-looking webpages like this where you had to go through a bunch of submenus (some obvious and some hidden) to get to the information. I can't seem to find it, but I know it's out there and gave a step-by-step like this for all sorts of great things.

CarHopper 02-25-2017 12:38 PM

Don't you track your car? It may not be much, but wouldn't the whole idea be to lose weight? Not add it?

Going down this road as a DIY is risky. If you jack it up you'll be pissed and can only point the finger at yourself.

Plenty more opportunities to mess it up than get it perfect too. And perfect is what it needs to be.

IMO, if you really want this done, take it to the pros. This way you can at least point the finger at someone else when it doesn't look right.

Adi-Benz 02-25-2017 12:43 PM

I can't imagine that it would add enough weight for him to care much. Your other arguments are definitely valid though. If all goes well I will be starting tomorrow but we'll see. Plus theres lots of people who have done it before (not necessarily on the w204 platform but in general).

BLKROKT 02-25-2017 01:44 PM

I just won't eat lunch that day. The weight is negligible and getting rid of windshield glare and just making it a nicer place to spend time is worth the extra pound in weight IMO.

I can appreciate your other points, but if you think I'm going to leave my car at an upholstery shop for a week you're wrong. I don't want anyone to point fingers at but myself, and I don't trust anyone to be as crazy perfectionist about it as me either.

So I'm just down to color now. Poked around the dash a bit more with the help of that guide and it doesn't look too bad actually. Driving around trying to figure if I want "Deep Black" or "Anthracite". Hmmmm....

BLKROKT 02-25-2017 03:20 PM

2x2yds of Anthracite Alcantara and glue on the way! Now, time to go look at pulling the dash apart....

CarHopper 02-25-2017 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7066997)

I can appreciate your other points, but if you think I'm going to leave my car at an upholstery shop for a week you're wrong. I don't want anyone to point fingers at but myself, and I don't trust anyone to be as crazy perfectionist about it as me either.

Not saying it cant be done, just saying it's risky. Look forward to seeing what you come up with though.


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