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jason7 03-10-2015 12:24 PM

Service Issue...Frustrating...
 
Alright guys, my previous thread i stated that i would be getting an oil change done on my vehicle ($220) opposed to a service A ($429). I dropped it off at the dealership this morning and recieved a call around noon. Apparently the car needs a differential flush, brake fluid flush, cooling system flush, and spark plugs! I called the dealership where the car was serviced for its entire life (out of town) and provided my VIN so they could pull up it's entire history. They told me that the last service done 1 year ago was the major service B. It had included the tranny flush and it's other components. The previous owner also had the brake system flushed along with a cabin filter change during the service B. She also told me that the diff. flush is recommended at the 80k kms mark (I am at 69k kms), spark plugs are recommended at 100k kms, and the cooling system she wasn't sure of but it's also past the 100k kms. Essentially she told me that currently the car is up to date and needs nothing but the minor service A, and she wasn't sure why the current dealer was telling me this.

I called the dealership where i am currently getting it serviced and described the situation to her. She tells me that it's actually recommended 80k kms/4 years and 100k kms/4 years for diff. flush and spark plugs. She said that this is guidelines set out by MB Canada and she doesnt know about the other dealership. WTF? They're both certified MB dealerships within 3 hours of eachother...:confused::confused:

The previous dealership was a larger dealership, and to be honest, I felt weren't trying to rob me for my dollars.

What do you guys think? Is this 4 year thing true, if so, why are these 2 dealerships giving me different answers for every service aspect? Frustrating part is that I've only had this car for a while and it already seems like these dealers have nothing better to do than rob consumers for their money.

Thanks

jason7 03-10-2015 12:51 PM

Also, vehicle is a 2010 C63.

CarHopper 03-10-2015 12:58 PM

Honestly, if it were my car and everything was running smoothly, I'd just do the oil change and tell them I'll see them at 80/100k.

Now, I'm not saying I sit here and wait for problems to arise, but 11k miles is a year+ driving for me. They can't argue when you say you'd like to stick with regular intervals.

If money is tight don't feel pressed to pull the trigger on all of that, however, if you have some pennies laying around it also wouldn't hurt. Either way, the decision is yours, but do the oil for sure if that service is due. Sounds like they're just trying to get some guy in an AMG to pony up a few bucks for services not needed yet.

jason7 03-10-2015 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG (Post 6359375)
Honestly, if it were my car and everything was running smoothly, I'd just do the oil change and tell them I'll see them at 80/100k.

Now, I'm not saying I sit here and wait for problems to arise, but 11k miles is a year+ driving for me. They can't argue when you say you'd like to stick with regular intervals.

If money is tight don't feel pressed to pull the trigger on all of that, however, if you have some pennies laying around it also wouldn't hurt. Either way, the decision is yours, but do the oil for sure if that service is due. Sounds like they're just trying to get some guy in an AMG to pony up a few bucks for services not needed yet.

Yeah, i already told them I'd be doing just the oil change. I doubt i will drive this car over the 80k mark till my next service, but if i do, i will go with the flush. The previous dealership that performed the services, said that the car has been maintained very well and everything was done on or before schedule. Currently it only needs a service A. Very annoyed at this current dealership i am at. I had already heard of horrible reviews against them, and i doubt i will be taking my vehicle there again. :wall:

abcut973 03-10-2015 02:00 PM

lol! Welcome to the MB tax world!!
They probably thought you were uneducated on the subject :)

jvanbrecht 03-10-2015 02:26 PM

Honestly, most of that you can do yourself. Brake flush is easy, with a $50 pressure pump and some time. Tranny flush is also easy, but a little more tricky if you don't have software to monitor the temps of teh fluid during the process (laser thermometer might work, but I find those not very accurate)

Diff, never done it, I don't have one, but I cannot imagine it is harder than an oil change.

Coolant, never done that either. That might actually be tricky to make sure you don't introduce air into the lines.

Spark plugs, also easy (except for cylinder 8 I think, close to the firewall, need a few angle adapters to get that plug out).

For me, it's not just about saving money (although it helps, I got the car long before I had my 2.5 year old so money is tight), but I also enjoy wrenching, it is relaxing. And if you can follow instructions, not that hard.

jason7 03-10-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by jvanbrecht (Post 6359542)
Honestly, most of that you can do yourself. Brake flush is easy, with a $50 pressure pump and some time. Tranny flush is also easy, but a little more tricky if you don't have software to monitor the temps of teh fluid during the process (laser thermometer might work, but I find those not very accurate)

Diff, never done it, I don't have one, but I cannot imagine it is harder than an oil change.

Coolant, never done that either. That might actually be tricky to make sure you don't introduce air into the lines.

Spark plugs, also easy (except for cylinder 8 I think, close to the firewall, need a few angle adapters to get that plug out).

For me, it's not just about saving money (although it helps, I got the car long before I had my 2.5 year old so money is tight), but I also enjoy wrenching, it is relaxing. And if you can follow instructions, not that hard.

Yeah it's not all about the money - although that is certainly the main contributing factor, its also that these 2 dealerships are both giving me different information, and I'm not even sure if this service that i "require" is really necessary at my current mileage :confused::confused:. I think i am just going to give MB Canada a call and find out for myself.

dc5itr888 03-10-2015 04:35 PM

Sounds like two people giving you directions to somewhere talking in your ear. You just need to tell one of them to shut up and listen to the one you trust the most.

zsh 03-10-2015 04:39 PM

Funny, just had my C63 at service here in Sweden. Car passed just about 22500km and it just turned 3 years old. Info at the display pop-ed up and it said time for service A0.
Talked to the dealer and scheduled an appointment and they informed me that its a simple service including basically engine oil/filter change and air filter.
Rest of the service points they could see when car is connected to their system to read out some "codes".

Initially this simple service was estimated to cost 600 USD. Bit steep I thought considering whats to be done, but since I need my warranty in tact, they got to do the job.
After few hours with the car they called and informed me that every 3 years its time to change oil in differential as well as transmission, which wasn't done previously on my car.

They did it....grand total 1300 USD.

This was done at authorized MB and AMG center.

jason7 03-10-2015 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by zsh (Post 6359688)
Funny, just had my C63 at service here in Sweden. Car passed just about 22500km and it just turned 3 years old. Info at the display pop-ed up and it said time for service A0.
Talked to the dealer and scheduled an appointment and they informed me that its a simple service including basically engine oil/filter change and air filter.
Rest of the service points they could see when car is connected to their system to read out some "codes".

Initially this simple service was estimated to cost 600 USD. Bit steep I thought considering whats to be done, but since I need my warranty in tact, they got to do the job.
After few hours with the car they called and informed me that every 3 years its time to change oil in differential as well as transmission, which wasn't done previously on my car.

They did it....grand total 1300 USD.

This was done at authorized MB and AMG center.

Seems to be a common trend then between dealerships. Told them to just do the oil change and leave the car alone. I'll probably just do the service reminder reset on my own and follow maintenance intervals set out by MB AMG.

papashango 03-10-2015 05:29 PM

Just to give you an idea a local dealer quoted $659.95 for JUST the transmission flush. A good, well recommended independent shop quoted me $1000 for the transmission flush, oil and filter change, air filter change, dust filter, all inspections required under Section B.

The local dealer is $849.95 for Just the service B which includes oil change, dust filter change, air filter change. The independent is including all that PLUS transmission change ($659.95 at local dealer) for a $1000. It may need other things I guess but they will look at things like cooling flush system, brake fluid, differential fluid etc to see if it needs to be changed or not unlike the dealer who says change ever 4 yrs, 2 yrs and 20,000 km's respectively. Plus the independent will do all inspections like brakes and advice if I need to do anything else I guess etc.

Needless to say, you can guess who I'd be taking my car to.

Merc63 03-10-2015 05:48 PM

It's a dealer, they are scammers, what did you expect.

Follow the guidelines in your owners manual, not what some retard they hired to run a desk tells you.

Id rather get my oil changed at jiffy lube than the dealer.

Was this at webber?

jcfay 03-10-2015 06:34 PM

yup, you should have a service manual with the car that has the recommended work and at what intervals. Don't rely on anyone to tell you when, just follow the book (it's on line if you don't have it).

roadtalontsi 03-10-2015 11:49 PM

the service manual does go by time and mileage which ever comes first. spark plugs are 5yrs/ 68,000 miles , coolant is like 10yrs/150,000 miles, brake flush every 2 years regardless of mileage. rear diff is every 40,000 miles after the first at 2,000 miles.

The coolant flush is the only thing i feel they are robbing you on. If your brake fluid looks dirty then it is time to flush it. I always recommend doing spark plugs early as towards the service interval, they can cause misfire problems if the vehicle is driven harder. If you get misfire problem - check engine light you'll end up paying for diagnosis time on top of the spark plug replacement.

solekeeper 03-11-2015 06:50 AM

lol.. dealers.

Roswell 03-11-2015 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by solekeeper (Post 6360372)
lol.. stealers.

^^ corrected :rolf:

I've stop going to the stealership long ago, I found a good local indy shop who can performs the job as well as them for half the cost... and my indy shop is lowered cars friendly unlike the stelars.

jason7 03-11-2015 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by roadtalontsi (Post 6360201)
the service manual does go by time and mileage which ever comes first. spark plugs are 5yrs/ 68,000 miles , coolant is like 10yrs/150,000 miles, brake flush every 2 years regardless of mileage. rear diff is every 40,000 miles after the first at 2,000 miles.

The coolant flush is the only thing i feel they are robbing you on. If your brake fluid looks dirty then it is time to flush it. I always recommend doing spark plugs early as towards the service interval, they can cause misfire problems if the vehicle is driven harder. If you get misfire problem - check engine light you'll end up paying for diagnosis time on top of the spark plug replacement.

I think I'm going to hold off until my next service...5 yrs/ 68k miles lol, my car is about 15k miles off the mileage and it's just reached the 5 year mark. Rear diff the tech told me is at 50k miles, and i am still about 8k away from that too. Brake flush was done 1 year ago, and since then the vehicle has been driven about 6k miles.

jason7 03-11-2015 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Merc63 (Post 6359769)
It's a dealer, they are scammers, what did you expect.

Follow the guidelines in your owners manual, not what some retard they hired to run a desk tells you.

Id rather get my oil changed at jiffy lube than the dealer.

Was this at webber?

Yes...This was at weber. How'd ya guess? ;)

Merc63 03-11-2015 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by jason7 (Post 6360445)
Yes...This was at weber. How'd ya guess? ;)

I've been around the block, a few times :)

odonnks 03-11-2015 09:45 PM

Many of us are fully capable of performing most of the service tasks. I look at these as an opportunity to purchase tools I might not already have.

I've been a gearhead for 35 yrs and can't see paying for something I can do in my own garage and enjoy doing it.

papashango 03-12-2015 01:59 AM

David Morris isn't much better either...

islandbeef 03-12-2015 02:46 AM

+1

Find a local independent Benz mechanic and build a strong relationship. Ask him a lot of dumb, newbie questions on how to save money and what costly repairs to expect in the near future.

If his reality checks spook you, I'd recommend you sell the car and buy a Lexus.

Merc63 03-12-2015 02:47 AM

I have a great mb tech for side jobs if u guys want in this area. Pm me

jason7 03-12-2015 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by islandbeef (Post 6361476)
+1

Find a local independent Benz mechanic and build a strong relationship. Ask him a lot of dumb, newbie questions on how to save money and what costly repairs to expect in the near future.

If his reality checks spook you, I'd recommend you sell the car and buy a Lexus.

I see you've already made the switch :eek:

jason7 03-12-2015 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Merc63 (Post 6361478)
I have a great mb tech for side jobs if u guys want in this area. Pm me

Which one? I'd be interested. As of now I would probably give World Class Auto a try but I'm curious as to which one you are referring to.


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