I do have LSD and like I mentioned above have Bridgestone Blizzak's LM32's. City driving is 'ok' for the most part except for some hills and what not on really icy/snowy days, but I got stuck on the highway once and I couldn't go over 80km/h it was that bad. And I do a lot of highway driving which becomes a huge issue in the winter if I have to take the C63.

 

I own a Jeep SRT8 (Third Gen) and both vehicles offer very different dynamics. I'm not sure how much this translates to the fourth generation of jeeps but one thing I noticed is that the C63 drives much more like a sports vehicle. It has a much more firm and responsive steering wheel and has stiffer suspension. Another thing is the interior build quality. Jeep uses too much plastic for my liking and makes the interior feel much more cheap than it's European rivals. Finally, brand reputation is another huge thing. Unless you mod your jeep to make it stand out, it's going to look like another average car on the road. I never recieved many looks towards the Jeep (except from jeep enthusiasts) and after modding it I've even had people follow me into parking lots to compliment it. But an AMG will always get the appropriate looks.

P.S. if you do get a Jeep, please upgrade the exhaust on it, it is horrible.

 

Hmmm- interesting- some owners say winter driving is totally fine and other say the opposite. Wonder why.

 

I guess it's all relative to what you own or have owned but the C63 is not a full on sports car. It's a performance luxury car. The SRT8 Jeep is a performance SUV. In the end it all comes down to taste and what you like.


As another poster mentioned, keep the C63 and pick up an SRT8 also if possible!

 

Both isn't a choice I don't have room plus the need for two vehicles like that. Maybe down the line but not right now. Bottom line is I don't want to end up regretting it and spend more money which it will be since I am looking at 2014.

 

Keep me updated on your opinion of the test drive. Very interesting in what you think. Also ask the guy/girl you are testing with if they have heard any rumors about a hellcat jeep

 

I will tell you that I hate our Challenger SRT. Same engine but it just feels lazier and doesn't sound as good as the C63. It doesn't like being revved. And the build quality is terrible. So much plastic. Nothing fits together tightly. The nav (no experience with 2014 version) is horrible. Also the 2 mode shocks keep breaking and one or two will get stuck in the stiffer setting requiring a visit to the dealer. I dislike a lot of the ergonomics of the GC I tested too. The placement of the seat memory buttons...really? The middle of the door? Other little niggles that shouldn't be present in a car of that price are. That being said, best seat warmers and seat ventilation I have ever tried. But overall, not a fan of the overall quality of the Jeep.

 

Could always get an older truck/suv for winters if you really like the c63

End of the day though it's all opinions and personal preferences, myself I don't know that I could go from a c63 dd to a performance suv just totally different vehicles

 

Yup one option would be to keep this for a few more years and just pick up a winter beater next winter as this one is almost done. I don't know let's see, I am on way to check out the Jeep after the wash and will post my thoughts here.

I like C63 quite a bit and don't want to end up regretting it. The only cars I know I wouldn't mind regretting are things like the 911 Turbo or maybe even the GTR (although brand name applies here too). So I really don't want to make the wrong call after spending a lot more money and what not. I am so conflicted that one minute I have made up mind to go for the Jeep and the other I want to keep the C lol. Let's see I guess....I hope it's the right decision whatever it is.

 

I agree with Rentz, no need to make a rash decision now since the winter is basically over and you can enjoy the 63 for a while. no harm in getting your ducks in a row either though.

 

I'll throw in some actual experience on this one....they are 2 TOTALLY different animals...in my opinion the one to have would be a 2008-10my version...they were truly ftw vehicles....i had an '08...stock for stock the jeep KILLS my C63 from a dig up to about 60ish, then the C just picks up steam and keeps on pulling away(damn wind resistance).....i dropped in a 426 and a paramount trans and it was ungodly.....jeep would KILL the C63 from a dig, up to prolly 90ish, then same old thing.....i LOVED my jeep and would not have gotten rid of it(burnt to the ground in June of last year)...mpg you ask???.....you have to run 93 and bone stock i got avg of 11mpg....in town i have seen as low as 7mpg and on the highway with perfect conditions best i ever saw was just under 17mpg....but i knew that when i bought it....from a roll there is no comparison, c63 all the way even stock vs my modded jeep....as for driving experience, hold onto your hats, the jeep is WAY more planted and generally fun to drive day to day...sure, we can throw the *** out on our rides and slide from here to there but how often do you take the chance??? with the jeep, it is the most sure footed rig ive ever driven...awd of course helps, as does the low stance(for $300 to Eibach you can lower it an additional 1" and improve the ride quality greatly) but in all honesty how can you really NOT be stuck like glue with 275/35/20 up front and 315/30/20 out back???...it really does beg you to push it hard in the twisties and NEVER feels like the cow in a track suit that it is(bring back Clarkson)...as for the comment about the 3rd gen this and exhaust crap that, i have no idea what he is talking about...wk1 is 2006-10(with 2008-10 getting new interior) and wk2 is 2012 to present(with LOTS of 2012 problems and then the adoption of the 8sp trans and minor revision in 2014)....there are only 2 generations and the Jeeps all sound pretty bad *** from the jump(wk1 is more aggressive)....if you look at pricing schedules of the 2 released models the thing to do would be to wait about another 6mo and pick up a HellCat Grand Cherokee for around the $80k mark....that is a LOT of money for a Jeep, but it is a LOT of vehicle....

there are other members on here from www.cherokeesrt8.com and hopefully they will chime in....

 

Based off your profound lust for the SRT, I'm assuming you must be American. I also have a 08 SRT and fairly modded compared to stock, but you have to give the AMG respect where it's due. I'm surprised that you say you owned a jeep just based off the fact that you like the exhaust. It sucks. Jeep beating the AMG? What the hell are you talking about? I've tried to line up my buddies in their C63's and it's never been close. If your talking tranny and engine swaps, how can you still compare that to a stock c63? Please know what you're talking about if you're going to try and bash others.

 

I've owned a Porsche and a Lotus Elise SC and I can honestly say the C63 is a "real" sports car.
I'd be curious to know what car for the same or less money the poster who called the C63 not a sports car is referring to?

Yeah, my Elise SC is more of a sports car in terms of slightly less body roll, but I would certainly put my 507 in the same league. It's not a 'performance luxury' car at all. In terms of the interior oppointments, sure; but the engine, steering, suspension, and braking is pure "sports" car.

 

I can understand your opinion and the reasons behind it, I just don't share the same opinion. I considered the 911 turbo I had and the viper I still have to be sports cars. I consider my 507 a luxury performance car, but again, that's just my opinion.


For cars in a similar price range, I would mention the viper, vette, maybe the GT4. Other than that, for the price range you are mostly looking at used and not new.

 

Georgia, so guilty as charged. And "profound lust" for SRT, not exactly, but no doubt respect for jeep jumping into the street performance market. Due respect for AMG already given, I bought it......How bout re-reading my original post above yours(the one where you claimed to own a 3rd gen Jeep SRT8)...i DID compare them stock to stock, then gave reference to heavily modded Jeep to stock C63 and in BOTH of them, the C63 came out on top...just took it longer to plant what the m156 is churning out and catch the Jeep.....as for your statement about lining up buddies this and that, that statement may hold true if you owned a WK2 SRT8, but not a WK1...bone stock, off the showroom floor they are BRUTAL from a dig....if you allow for the "basic" tweaks that we all do, ie "toon", then that launch from a dig becomes even more evident and there is nothing that the C63 can do to close THAT area of the gap, it all comes down to traction....once the C63 can stretch out, it's over with, plain and simple...as to the exhaust, the Jeep SRT8 is one of the only vehicles i have ever even heard of that short of long tubes there is NOTHING that you can do to the factory setup that doesnt cost you hp AND tq....not opinion or conjecture, its a dyno proven fact many times over with hundreds if not thousands of owners to validate it....wasnt bashing you or the land of the Maple, but i can assure you that when it comes to vehicles, especially ones that i have personally owned, i DO know what im talking about my friend.

 

I'd be quite surprised to see a jeep srt beat out a c63 to 60mph. What's the rated 0-60 and recorded 0-60 in reviews ? I know the c63 is usually around 4.2ish and c&d tested it and got About 3.9

 

Fiat made huge strides with the Jeep interior with model year 2014+.
I've driven both the c63 and the new gen Jeep extensively, two completely different versions of fun. You'll either love it or hate it.

Good luck.

 

I agree with you on the exhuast (hence my factory exhaust on it still) and all i was saying is that when comparing stock exhausts, C63 vs SRT8, C63 blows it away. Build quality, C63. Power? I think we know the answer there as well. The points I am reiterating are the only issues I see with the Jeep. I love my Jeep and am in no way trying to bash Jeep or anything. Rather, just stating my experiences with these two vehicles and the obvious results.

 

depending on the DA the WK1 ran between 4.3-4.7
my bone stock average was right at 4.1-4.2(good air)
with the motor/trans i was deep in the 3s....3.5-3.6(again, good air)
keep in mind also that GETTING to 60 from a stop is what the Jeep does best, completely traction related due to awd and huge footprint.

the WK2s were not as in your face as the WK1s when they came out but for 2014 they got Launch Control and seemed to get some of their ***** back

again, they are totally different animals but they are both a blast to drive....they just perform their best in different places

And as for fast.....Builder Bill (Paramount) and Harrison (Stage6) are BOTH deep in the 8s in the 1/4 now.....that's moving some serious air with those bricks

 

i agree with that 101%

 

Yeah, but the Hellcat is definitely going to be a different animal. I'm curious to see how close they can push the HP numbers to 707

 

Bottom line they're just totally different categories and its all about your needs.
If I didn't also own a truck with my c63 I might be more inclined to get something like an ml63 or jeep srt
I like what some of the x5s put down too

 

The Jeep HellCat should be the same now(they used to rate the jeep 5hp less than the rwd cars) and that should be a beast.

and i LOVE the X5M....but they are just SO damn cost prohibitive...drove one when looking for the C63 and it was still better than $90k...USED!!!!!!!!!!!!

and just for fun....

 

HC Jeep has been announced or speculation?

 

strong speculation