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Old 06-09-2016, 11:28 PM
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Intake manifold oil build up at 95k miles

Just sharing my experience.
I decided to take apart the intake manifold to clean it.

I was surprised how little of oil/oil build was present. No carbon just thick oil. Nothing a shop towel and some brake cleaner can't handle.

To be honest it was not worth the 5h of work.
I'm glad I did not jump on the weistech oil separator train which is in my opinion a waste of money.







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Nice to see that. What type of driving? All street or any track work?
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Nice to see that. What type of driving? All street or any track work?
Some mountain runs. Very spirited daily driven.
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I know a some people (engine builders, tuners, gear heads) that have said the catch can doesn't do much...

I wasn't sold on the necessity from the beginning either...
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Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
I know a some people (engine builders, tuners, gear heads) that have said the catch can doesn't do much...

I wasn't sold on the necessity from the beginning either...
If it would be something what's really needed I would assume MB would have thought of it.

Judging by the amount of oil I had in the manifold it would have never filled a catch can once in 95k miles.
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It depends on how you drive due to the way the PCV valve works. Because of traffic, I'm doing a lot of sitting/idling and slow speeds, and I had quite a bit of oil in my manifold at 60k miles.

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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
It depends on how you drive due to the way the PCV valve works. Because of traffic, I'm doing a lot of sitting/idling and slow speeds, and I had quite a bit of oil in my manifold at 60k miles.
I drive like a maniac and you should see the thick **** in the can every oil change my mechanic head tech at Benz says it's a must for these motors
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I drive like a maniac and you should see the thick **** in the can every oil change my mechanic head tech at Benz says it's a must for these motors
Not so sure if it is a must or not.
I would assume that the engineers/developers in Affalterbach would have included it. Especially when you can charge the costumer extra dime for servicing it.

I see it more as a peace of mind. If anyone thinks it is needed and has it installed would feel better about.

Besides that I'm just trying to point out hat the build up I had was very little for 95k miles and I drive like a maniac as well. Slow traffic and a lot of idling should cause most of the build up.

I'm not sure if the oil brand or specs make a difference. But I have switched to liqui moly 5w40 leichtlauf instead of mobile one 0w40. Yes yes it is MB approved. One thing I noticed is that the occasional lifter knocking went away.

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Originally Posted by sventastic82
Besides that I'm just trying to point out hat the build up I had was very little for 95k miles and I drive like a maniac as well. Slow traffic and a lot of idling should cause most of the build up.
No build up because you push the car, but you still ran the oil through the combustion process instead of bypassing it into a container pre combustion.
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^ Exactly. OE manufacturers don't put a lot of things on cars that would be of benefit. Try telling mass-market consumers that there's a little can they have to unscrew periodically to check and empty if it's full. The catch can is a pretty tried-and-true solution, there's not really any debate about it's effectiveness.
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I'd love a catch can but $630? Damn..
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Correction: $630 for a fitting

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Use Mobil 1, Castrol, Penzoil, O'Reilly motor oil, etc...you'll need one.

Use liquid Molly, Redline or Royal Purple...I have not seen the sludge that builds up from other oils.

I think it has a lot to do with the oil used.
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Originally Posted by sventastic82
I'm not sure if the oil brand or specs make a difference. But I have switched to liqui moly 5w40 leichtlauf instead of mobile one 0w40. Yes yes it is MB approved. One thing I noticed is that the occasional lifter knocking went away.
How long have you been using Liqui Moly?
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Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
Use Mobil 1, Castrol, Penzoil, O'Reilly motor oil, etc...you'll need one.

Use liquid Molly, Redline or Royal Purple...I have not seen the sludge that builds up from other oils.

I think it has a lot to do with the oil used.
Don't forget Motul.
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i am using liqui moly 5w40, can we use Liqui moly 10w60? thick?
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i am using liqui moly 5w40, can we use Liqui moly 10w60? thick?
If it's 299.5 approved but 10x60 is too thick...

And Motul...


It also depends on regions you live in and how you drive and how often you change. YOU HAVE TO USE 299.5 approved oil and its usually 10/40 or 0/40.

When I changed my headbolts at 25K miles last winter, I had been using Redline for some time and my tech told me he had never before seen a cleaner engine ever in his 20 year career.
I had NO sludge and the valves and intakes and shafts, etc were clean as a whistle. I also change my oil every 5K miles and I beat the snot out of her often, with some mixed city spirited driving.

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the 5w40 is 229.5 approved but the 10w60 offcorse it's not but i've been using 10w60 with all my cars that i run hard, but with the c63 i was afraid so i jumped to 5w40, i think with thicker oil the valve tappets and the adjusters will hold oil better, because of that i was asking if someone used it.
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Clean engine Zephyr.

Heavier buildup I've seen on more modern engines (the past 10 years technology) is on direct injected / turbocharged engines.
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How long have you been using Liqui Moly?
For the last 5 oil changes/ 50k miles.
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
^ Exactly. OE manufacturers don't put a lot of things on cars that would be of benefit. Try telling mass-market consumers that there's a little can they have to unscrew periodically to check and empty if it's full. The catch can is a pretty tried-and-true solution, there's not really any debate about it's effectiveness.
Try to to tell the mass-market consumer to check a container?
Why not if you do your own oil change why not empting a catch can. Just like draining an oil cooler during a normal oil change.

There are plenty of other items which need to be maintained which are "new"
Refill of an SCR tank
Washer fluid for a camera system.
Various filters which did not exist in the past.

The point is if the catch can is so important and critical for the 6.2l engine to stay healthy. Mercedes would have made it part of it and included in their service plan.


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