Trading the C63 in... Help!!!!
07-16-2016, 12:55 PM
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07-16-2016, 08:37 PM
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07-16-2016, 10:06 PM
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Hey guys, so I've decided to visit a local bmw dealership this weekend to check out a M3 that they got for sale. Im strongly considering trading my car in to the dealership towards the new M3. I have a couple questions: First off, I just KBB'ed my car so Ive got an idea of what trade-in value would be, do the dealerships go by KBB or are they going to low-ball me on the offer? I know they will take into consideration the overall condition of the car inside and out but just wanted to get an idea from you guys about that.
Secondly, Ive currently got a Eurocharged V5 tune on the car, if I do trade the car in, should I just leave the tune on and have them deal with it or have it flashed back to stock ? Im afraid they'll ask me if I have any ECU upgrades on the car or not, just want to be prepared. Should I give them the handheld programmer as well or keep it? Any help would be much appreciated, thank you guys.
Secondly, Ive currently got a Eurocharged V5 tune on the car, if I do trade the car in, should I just leave the tune on and have them deal with it or have it flashed back to stock ? Im afraid they'll ask me if I have any ECU upgrades on the car or not, just want to be prepared. Should I give them the handheld programmer as well or keep it? Any help would be much appreciated, thank you guys.
The dealer will use their black book -- but that's complete bunk -- and yes, they absolutely will lowball you. The dealer's sole goal is making money on the deal. The black book is worthless, it's entirely for the dealer's benefit -- you can and should tell them upfront that you will not consider a black book value, period -- just disregard it, as you should. Use the NADA blue book and Kelly. Don't waiver. Negotiate first from what you're willing to spend on the M3, and then what you'll accept on trade in. They want your sale, you're in the driver's seat, not the dealer.
Get your c63 sparkling clean. You might consider having it detailed, $150 or so you can get back in your deal. Otherwise, go over it to the nines inside and out. Looks sell. Good luck.
07-17-2016, 01:55 AM
#29
Yep. Aesthetics is a really big factor in a car purchase imo. It's also most likely faster around the track than W204 & W205 C63's. And the problem of low end torque during city driving from the E9x's have been solved by the twin turbos.
07-17-2016, 03:25 AM
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The question I have is does it sacrifice top end for a very strong Bottom end pull?
07-17-2016, 11:16 AM
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Yes, Im busting your ***** on this a bit here, and I apologize for that. I was just incredulous that anyone could make a selection based on that one criteria and while you state that you have, you have in fact not. And so it makes more sense.
07-17-2016, 11:23 AM
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07-17-2016, 12:01 PM
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Aesthetics are big for me too, its just that you say "for this reason alone" and now have proceeded to tack on a couple more reasons. You've kind of gone from "it has nice big fenders" to "I like the way it looks, and it goes like hell, having boosted its performance from the days when it had just slightly more torque than the new Honda Accord".
Yes, Im busting your ***** on this a bit here, and I apologize for that. I was just incredulous that anyone could make a selection based on that one criteria and while you state that you have, you have in fact not. And so it makes more sense.
Yes, Im busting your ***** on this a bit here, and I apologize for that. I was just incredulous that anyone could make a selection based on that one criteria and while you state that you have, you have in fact not. And so it makes more sense.
07-17-2016, 12:06 PM
#34
Are you constantly trying to do highway battles or top speed runs?
07-17-2016, 12:10 PM
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Haha, My first post was a half jokingly jab at Mercedes for never having wider rear fenders on the normal AMG C models, while BMW has always put wider rear fenders on M3 models since the E46. I know the new C63 coupes have wider rear fenders, but it's still lacking for the new C63 sedans.
07-17-2016, 03:20 PM
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Compared e92 m3 I found w204 to be more powerful all across the power band, even on top end it pulls way stronger with a tune.
I'm just wondering about the new f80, if they sacrifice weaker top end for stronger low end due to turbos power kicking in very strong at lower RPM.
07-17-2016, 06:00 PM
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No not really just trying to learn how they've changed power delivery in the newer model cars these days.
Compared e92 m3 I found w204 to be more powerful all across the power band, even on top end it pulls way stronger with a tune.
I'm just wondering about the new f80, if they sacrifice weaker top end for stronger low end due to turbos power kicking in very strong at lower RPM.
Compared e92 m3 I found w204 to be more powerful all across the power band, even on top end it pulls way stronger with a tune.
I'm just wondering about the new f80, if they sacrifice weaker top end for stronger low end due to turbos power kicking in very strong at lower RPM.
07-17-2016, 07:50 PM
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Compared to a tuned c63.
Can you explain the difference as a driver in how these 2 engines feel, from a dig and from roll under full throttle?
07-17-2016, 08:48 PM
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Didn't see it mentioned yet, may have missed, but everyone is missing 1 important thing.....the dealer will look at current auction prices and make some of the determination from that as well....they see "live time" of the last X-amount of transactions at auction, so they know what they can get if they don't want to put on lot, or give it a shot in lot and move to a wholesaler after a certain amount of days.
So, if you can get access to that, there is your best way to go in with a good idea of area of pricing your trade will fall into.
So, if you can get access to that, there is your best way to go in with a good idea of area of pricing your trade will fall into.
07-17-2016, 08:55 PM
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You're kidding me. We haven't already discussed this to your satisfaction in about 100 emails? Lol. Dude, just go drive one.
07-17-2016, 10:44 PM
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07-17-2016, 10:45 PM
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