W204 C63 FI Headers. End of the year $2190 shipped special!
 

Is this available with high flow cats if so pm price please

Killer price for MBH headers

THESE ARE 100% STOLEN MBH MOTORSPORTS HEADERS. MODERATORS PLEASE REMOVE THIS WHOLE THREAD AND WE WILL BE CONTACTING AUTO TALENT FOR SELLING AND OR BEING IN POSSESSION OF COUNTERFEIT COPYRIGHT PROTECTED DESIGNED PRODUCTS.

Nowhere in this ad are we advertising MBH headers? These are Frequency Intelligent Headers. Website can be seen here:

http://www.fi-exhaust.com/

Our design is copyright protected. Remove this post and any reference to our designed headers. You are selling import crap copies of our headers.

We designed these almost 7 years ago and recently FI exhaust knocked them off and here you are selling knock offs of our headers on MBworld. I will be in touch with Internet Brands tomorrow to see what action that will take to stop people from selling copied and knockoff products here.
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Import crap? Let me know why all the cars we have done below would run crap? I doubt a company who specializes in high end applications would care to knock off your product. Either way, your complaining does not belong here. You can take it up with a moderator if you think you are being wronged.



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FI Exhaust stuff is copied import crap. made with steel that is inferior to United States stainless steel. But who cares what you have done. All i care about is stopping people from selling knock off and copied products that we designed and manufacture.

I did not receive my straight pipe from MBH yet. :D
Mike emailed me the other day saying he just talked to by business partner If I’m going to delete my posts and remove the PayPal dispute. he will send me my straight pipes. Its seem mike and his business partner got their money from PayPal despise so, I going to share my bad experience with MBH in every post.

AutoTalent the pictures look awesome and the price is unbelievable.
pm the price for the midsection Please. It seems you got better quality and price than fraud MBH.

To be honest, FI is pretty popular over here in the UK and I haven't heard of anyone complaining. They seem much like iPE who again are very popular in the UK so, I wouldn't have a problem buying them. There are a lot of high end cars using their systems and from what I can tell, get a hard life so the longevity of the steel and welds seems good.

As MBH isn't available, or locally distributed over here, I can't say I have any comment good or bad although I've read a few comments from people on here now saying "I'd never deal with a company again with the letters M or H in the name when it comes to Mercedes parts" so I'm guessing there's the reason why people are jumping to international brands if after-sales is lacking.

Whatever though, hopefully this spat get worked out.

Autotalent, I'd be interested in your price for catted headers but shipped to the UK. Perhaps it's not viable with shipping and duty, but worth looking into.

I am sorry for your poor experience. Sending you a PM now!

Thanks for the kind words! FI is certainly a brand that has established itself in a positive way since release. Will PM you now :)

Where were you in April?! I would have jumped on headers at this price.

You should be addressing FI directly then. Not sh¡tting on a resellers thread. Or better yet, maybe spend more energy delivering your products to paying customers.

Free bump for AutoTalent :y

We're here now :y . Next time haha

Thank you!

Golan, and Auto Talent. You will be hearing from my attorney. It is a very serious matter and actually a crime. To the point that I was informed to notify the FBI through their stopfakes.gov site for importation of knock off products that infringe on our intellectual property right.
Sorry Auto Talent We are not your R&D facility and we will sue you. This is how I make a living and I will fight you to the end and back

https://www.stopfakes.gov/article?id...estigation-FBI

What a nice coincidence that the FI headers are the exact same 2 inch primary tri-y design as the MBH design. Other than the type of welds, they appear to be exactly the same as the MBH headers....

You take your customers stuff and you never give them what they paid for. Nice way of making living!

Go call up your CC and file a chargeback. You'll get your money back. I've also used Paypal dispute before and have been able to get my money back for undelivered goods, so just call them up proceed with the dispute.

Wonder what kind of company is OK with selling stolen designs and knock off products. NOT a good one.


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my story with MBH is here.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...problem-3.html

https://www.uspto.gov/patents-mainta...t-infringement

Don't you need a patent infringement case against the manufacture first? Then prove the reseller sold said infringed products knowingly?

Empty threats against a reseller degrades your character.

Mike / MBH,

I would suggest you stop posting in this thread as you seem to be making a fool of yourself and your company. I have followed this thread since last night but did not care to post until now as I did not want to give a somewhat biased view (I am an AutoTalent and FI past customer). I have been on this forum since 2008 and have seen a lot of claims / things happen. If you have a point, which I personally think you don't, then you should be directing your anger directly at the manufacturer and not AutoTalent as they are just a dealer. I have run FI on my C63S and was very satisfied with their product. Definitely doesn't seem like crap to me.

For someone who is providing a service and making a living off forum members you sure know how to make customers mad. A quick search on google:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...body-else.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...h-problem.html

I suggest we keep this thread civilized and handle any problems via PM. It will get less ugly that way.

NO we dont because we can prove the seller knowingly infringed. As they purchased a set of header for a customer of theres. Here is the fedex tracking number for that order 790505707073

I have a right to defend my products from companies that wish to sell unauthorized copies. Sorry that your line of work doesnt play out in the public eye. But some times mine does. I will defend this until the end. Oh and 2 cases out of countless order. Again how does that play into having our product design stolen?

As a customer, all I can think is "If they provided the same product for 30% cheaper, why would I go to you?" I already have my headers and don't have a dog in the fight but it makes you wonder about the so called MB Tax. And I say "same product" without having seen either FI or MBH headers in person. Plenty of people hve said FI makes quality products though.

Thats the problem. Labor rates to have quality products made in the USA with the best quality United States stainless steel make it hard to compete against a company that is buying knock offs made in Taiwan and China with some of the worst stainless steel on the planet and incredibly cheap labor.

So there's some sort of back story regarding this reseller? That's some crucial information you left out in your previous posts.

To an outsider and any potential customer, you just appeared to be rambling accusations and threats in an unprofessional manor.

Yes like this when they wanted to become a dealer

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Do it privately and don't make it public unless you get results out of it...

It's not good for EITHER of you, whether any of you are correct.

I fail to see what that screen capture proves. Sure they may have wanted to be an MBH dealer. So? Everyone has competing products in their lineup. It's how you make money since buyers will have personal preference.

If FI is in fact infringing on your patent that's their and your problem, not the resellers problem.

I'd take Adi's advice in this situation.

I have written them privately and I even called Golan and was very nice. only to have him hang up on me. Auto Talen is now a known seller of knock-off products. Maybe you want a brand recognized product from them and they sell you the knock off. Maybe without you knowing they are selling you a fake.
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I know but it's probably in both of your best interest to take it down a bit.

Both of you have your arguments, but this place isn't a courtroom either.

So not just for the sake of yourselves, but also for the sake of the forum community, try and solve it with yourselves in the best way possible.

And that's all I will say because I have no reason to be here...

Auto Talent does not have an argument. They are knowingly selling forgeries of our product,

Could that have been some sort of miscommunication between Auto Talent and that customer? Is it possible they told them it's similar to MBH which was misunderstood? If that customer actually ordered MBH headers (as in it's on their order confirmation) BUT received the FI headers instead, then that's all you needed to post in the first place.

They are clearly stating FI headers in this thread which may be a copy of your product as you're claiming.

Maybe you should be contacting FI instead?

Frequency Intelligent Exhaust Co. Ltd
GEO: 25.13731, 121.44958
Tel: +886-2-22979999
Email: info@fi-exhaust.com

EDIT:
Looks like ACG is a reseller for this FI company as well. Don't they have a good rep on here? Are they knowingly/unknowingly selling illegal knock off MBH products as well?

http://www.fi-exhaust.com/contact.html

Maybe all their resellers need to be contacted as you deal with FI?

I have been in contact with FI months ago. What am I going to do sue Taiwan? Trust me I knew this was coming and our only realistic option was to go after the importers. Especially ones knowing and aware. Like Auto Talent. If anything People should be pissed at MBworld for allowing counterfeit and copied products to be sold here. There import companies rely on hard working people to design and establish the product. Then they come in and copy it. We do the R&D as well as marketing and they steel it. Just like the American Racing headers were stolen and now all over ebay. In my defense we fought Ebay and won removing copied from their auction listing. We will no doubt go after Auto Talent. We just want them to stop selling the copies and stop advertising.

This post is heated.

What a joke. After reading this thread, I'll definitely never be dealing with MBH. There's a right and wrong way to handle this, and MBH made a fool of themselves here.

I know Jon defending your livelihood is making a fool out of ones self. The right way is to expose the fraud that Auto Talent is in their selling of copied MBH Headers. It does this whole community a disservice to look down on companies that innovate while creating a place for companies to imitate.

Not to mention I've been a sponsor here for 8 years Longer under my old sponsor name of Hooleyboy. Thats like $16,000 dollars i've invested into MBworld and Internet Brands only to have a copy of our product be sold her by a company that has been here not even a year.

You didn't defend yourself in this thread at all. I can only see emotional outbursts against a reseller who's "apparently" knowingly selling an illegal product. If you don't have the hard tangible proof, don't even share it. Even if it's legit, spewing bits and pieces that can be taken in different contexts makes it appear that you're crying wolf.

Don't get me wrong, completely understandable if what you're accusing this reseller of is actually legit, and if it is they will be completely ruined here. The problem is your approach, it's unprofessional and is likely why you often get attacked.

Either way, from how you have represented yourself and your company in this thread, including others (I can think of 5-6 off the top of my head). I wouldn't even come close to trusting you with my money which is unfortunate because it appears you make a quality product.

Maybe you should think logically instead of emotionally going forward. At least do the logical part before clicking the "Submit Reply" button in the future.

Im actually in the middle of starting a thread. I will show you just how much copied products on this site have killed innovation of cool new stuff here at MBworld. I'll show you some things that have been copied and somehow allowed to be sold here without any regard to the person or company that created them.

Edit: Sorry forgot this was a post in a vendor thread. Not the right place for a rant my bad.

Well, I wish you luck. I wasn't disputing the fact some company in Taiwan may or may not be copying your product.

What put a dirty taste in my month is the fact you're attacking a re-seller with absolutely no proof they're in bed with the bad guy. Sure they may know their product appears to be similar, but that's not their responsibility as a re-seller.

It's like Tim Cook (CEO of Apple if you didn't know) going into a Radio Shack to cause sh¡t for selling Samsung devices. If you saw that on the news you'd likely think he's a damn fool right?

thats cute because most buildings these days are using Chinese/Imported steel

i think you're just mad that the Asians can make a better product for 1/3 of the price

these are exhaust pipes, not jet engine piping that goes on a F35, the steel quality doesn't need to be A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Its clear now that you have absolutely know idea what you are talking about.

Thanks to everyone for the support and inquiries. I have PMed everyone back who is interested. We currently have 4 headers left in stock. Keep in mind these are normally $2800 before air shipping.