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Savage-wp 12-21-2017 03:14 PM

Drag racing with FL C63
 
The guys that drag on a prepped track with their FL C63's.
Do you launch using the launch control function, or do you turn the traction control completely off and modulate the throttle yourself?

BLKROKT 12-21-2017 03:24 PM

No launch control it sucks. Heat tires well. Traction on Sport. Brake boost - floor the gas while standing on the brake - as soon as it hits 3k rpm release brake. That’s been good for 1.7x 60’ times on street tires for me and is good enough. My experience with TC off on street tires wheel hops like crazy and stresses the drivetrain more than I’d like - I’ve already broken one axle, no thanks again. Slicks same as above but TC off.

Savage-wp 12-21-2017 03:47 PM

Thanks for the info Blkrokt.
I've only run on a unprepared track, and there was no traction. I tried launch control, and it was useless. Then I tried Sport mode, but I found the lack of traction made the car cut power as it always wanted to spin. I found TC off to be best on a unprepared surface.
I'm using Yokohama Advan AD08 semi slicks. Running for the first time on a prepped track.
Will try sport mode, and launching at 3k.

Savage-wp 12-21-2017 03:48 PM

Do you shift in manual, or run in Sport + and let the car shift.

BLKROKT 12-21-2017 03:57 PM

All manual. Hit the paddle about 500rpm before redline as there’s a lag. Sport+ tends to short-shift.

MTV10 12-21-2017 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7340632)
No launch control it sucks. Heat tires well. Traction on Sport. Brake boost - floor the gas while standing on the brake - as soon as it hits 3k rpm release brake. That’s been good for 1.7x 60’ times on street tires for me and is good enough. My experience with TC off on street tires wheel hops like crazy and stresses the drivetrain more than I’d like - I’ve already broken one axle, no thanks again. Slicks same as above but TC off.

You broke an axle on street tires?

Savage-wp 12-21-2017 04:33 PM

The rpm lag on the shifting is a pain in the ass. You've always got to remember to shift before the redline.

Savage-wp 12-21-2017 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by MTV10 (Post 7340682)
You broke an axle on street tires?

That's pretty hectic. The back end feels quite solid on these cars. Didn't think you would break anything on street tyres.

Schulminator 12-21-2017 05:53 PM

With Hoosiers my best 60' / et was in dyno mode & sport plus. I did some runs and tried both manual and sport +, with + giving the best et's. Next I'm going to try a quick brake boost to see if it helps.

BLKROKT 12-21-2017 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by MTV10 (Post 7340682)
You broke an axle on street tires?


Originally Posted by Savage-wp (Post 7340689)
That's pretty hectic. The back end feels quite solid on these cars. Didn't think you would break anything on street tyres.

Yup :D
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BLKROKT 12-21-2017 07:08 PM

Sorry forgot one other point. 24psi cold in the rear tires. And get them real hot.

kimeran 12-22-2017 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Savage-wp (Post 7340688)
The rpm lag on the shifting is a pain in the ass. You've always got to remember to shift before the redline.

You should be used to it by now.
It became second nature to me eventually.

AMGonFire 12-22-2017 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage-wp (Post 7340689)
That's pretty hectic. The back end feels quite solid on these cars. Didn't think you would break anything on street tyres.

it does seem solid and I was surprised to snap my driveshaft in half at the track.
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Savage-wp 12-22-2017 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Schulminator (Post 7340732)
With Hoosiers my best 60' / et was in dyno mode & sport plus. I did some runs and tried both manual and sport +, with + giving the best et's. Next I'm going to try a quick brake boost to see if it helps.

What size Hoosiers are you running?

ec_nova 12-22-2017 05:28 PM

I used race start on PSS tires and hit consistent 1.7x 60' bone stock. I'll stick with that...

Celicasaur 12-22-2017 07:07 PM

3000rpm?! :eek:

With my foot on the brakes, the most mine revs to is like...1200 or 1300, if that :confused:

BLKROKT 12-22-2017 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Celicasaur (Post 7341421)
3000rpm?! :eek:

With my foot on the brakes, the most mine revs to is like...1200 or 1300, if that :confused:

I don’t know if it’s 3k exactly but it’s definitely more than 1500. Maybe 2500? You can’t do it for more than 2sec or so or else it will go into some sort of failsafe mode and bog flat on its face. So whatever it gets to when I floor the gas and count to one Mississippi is what I launch at. Sorry if it’s not more scientific.

Schulminator 12-23-2017 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Savage-wp (Post 7341337)
What size Hoosiers are you running?

225/50 16 on clk wheels

Celicasaur 12-25-2017 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7341447)


I don’t know if it’s 3k exactly but it’s definitely more than 1500. Maybe 2500? You can’t do it for more than 2sec or so or else it will go into some sort of failsafe mode and bog flat on its face. So whatever it gets to when I floor the gas and count to one Mississippi is what I launch at. Sorry if it’s not more scientific.

So last night I tried this again and would you believe it...with my foot a little harder on the pedal, it actually does go up past 2500 to around 3000rpm or so. I can't believe it took over 2.5 years of ownership to figure this out :rolf:

Savage-wp 12-26-2017 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by Schulminator (Post 7341681)
225/50 16 on clk wheels

I thought 17's were the smallest rims you could fit at the back.

Savage-wp 12-26-2017 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Celicasaur (Post 7342768)
So last night I tried this again and would you believe it...with my foot a little harder on the pedal, it actually does go up past 2500 to around 3000rpm or so. I can't believe it took over 2.5 years of ownership to figure this out :rolf:

LOL. We learn something new every day.
Will be giving this a bash tomorrow.

Schulminator 12-26-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Savage-wp (Post 7342966)
I thought 17's were the smallest rims you could fit at the back.

Nope, 20mm spacers and they fit w/o any issue.

Mort 12-26-2017 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Schulminator (Post 7343063)
Nope, 20mm spacers and they fit w/o any issue.

and maybe with rear calipers off a regular W204.

Schulminator 12-26-2017 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mort (Post 7343129)
and maybe with rear calipers off a regular W204.

Fits right over oem calipers.... wheels/20mm spacers/longer bolts.... done!

Schulminator 12-26-2017 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Celicasaur (Post 7342768)
So last night I tried this again and would you believe it...with my foot a little harder on the pedal, it actually does go up past 2500 to around 3000rpm or so. I can't believe it took over 2.5 years of ownership to figure this out :rolf:

Nice.... I'll try this at the strip next time.


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