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strangearmand 01-05-2018 03:09 PM

For Sale: 2014 C63 AMG 507 Edition (Toronto) ($56,000 CAD)
 
Very beautiful and rare car, sad to let it go. As you all probably know this is the last year Mercedes made naturally aspirated v8 6.3L engines for the C63. This thing is a BEAST. True 507 edition = 507hp!

First Owner, Private Owner, No Accidents, Clean Title, Excellent Condition, Parked Until Sold. Can arrange showing in Downsview, Toronto anytime.

Fully stock except tinted windows and ECU Eurocharged tune.

Asking: $56,000 CAD
KMS: 30,000
Location: Toronto

Walk around and engine start video:
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pbaylog 01-05-2018 06:49 PM

A naturally aspirated bi-turbo? Must be a one of one.....

Mort 01-05-2018 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by pbaylog (Post 7350774)
A naturally aspirated bi-turbo? Must be a one of one.....

Unicorn.....

Only in Toronto you say?

SactownP31 01-05-2018 08:32 PM

Make up your mind. Is it naturally aspirated or bi-turbo.

AMG3.2 01-05-2018 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by SactownP31 (Post 7350845)
Make up your mind. Is it naturally aspirated or bi-turbo.

Read the thread. It's both.

strangearmand 01-05-2018 09:37 PM

lol it's a typo my mistake. fixed.

BLKROKT 01-05-2018 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by strangearmand (Post 7350579)
As you all probably know this is the last year Mercedes made naturally aspirated v8 6.3L engines for the C63.

How'd you get an extra 0.1L than me? I feel ripped off, I only have a 6.2L. You should get your own subforum for this exclusive model.

SactownP31 01-05-2018 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7350895)


How'd you get an extra 0.1L than me? I feel ripped off, I only have a 6.2L. You should get your own subforum for this exclusive model.

Its a pretty simple. His is a 507 and yours isnt.

kickinrocks 01-05-2018 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7350895)


How'd you get an extra 0.1L than me? I feel ripped off, I only have a 6.2L. You should get your own subforum for this exclusive model.

I find it funny that people always bring this up. Technically I believe it's like 6.207 right? When I was racing motorcycle racing there was a strict limit at the exact litre/ of the bike. For example of a 1000cc bike like 1010cc it would get upclassified as an 1100 or at least forced to race in the 1100 class...so while technically it's much closer to 6.2 than 6.3 that might not be how they're technically classified, at least it wasn't in the bike world.

SactownP31 01-05-2018 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by dlowery21 (Post 7350905)
I find it funny that people always bring this up. Technically I believe it's like 6.207 right? When I was racing motorcycle racing there was a strict limit at the exact litre/ of the bike. For example of a 1000cc bike like 1010cc it would get upclassified as an 1100 or at least forced to race in the 1100 class...so while technically it's much closer to 6.2 than 6.3 that might not be how they're technically classified, at least it wasn't in the bike world.

AMG actually explained this a couple years ago, and said exactly what you said. It cant be classified as 6.2 according to them. German law or something.

BLKROKT 01-05-2018 11:10 PM

Just because German marketing or tax or emission or whatever laws say they have to round up to 6.3 doesn't make it true.

SactownP31 01-05-2018 11:30 PM

When people ask me, "wow that small car has a 6.3?" My answer is, "yeah, well no. Kind of, technically, but actually not really."

MTV10 01-06-2018 10:01 AM

That engine is ticking quite loud...

AA717driver 01-06-2018 02:45 PM

Simple...Horsepower, displacement and penis size: always round up.:naughty:

TC

SactownP31 01-06-2018 08:35 PM

I round down. If not they'll be too intimdated.;)

fc63 01-07-2018 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by MTV10 (Post 7351064)
That engine is ticking quite loud...

This. What is that loud ticking?

MTV10 01-08-2018 09:45 AM

Lifters ticking. Happens every so often if car has sat for a long time.

Diabolis 01-08-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by MTV10 (Post 7352485)
Lifters ticking. Happens every so often if car has sat for a long time.

Not really. I've yet to hear lifter noise from a car with a healthy valve train.

A friend of mine is looking for a 2013 or 2014 coupe with the forged internals... this would have been the perfect car had it not been "improved" by a tune (and now an engine in need of repairs). :(

P.S. The broken front plate mount - all of $20 and two minutes to replace - says a lot more about how well the car was looked after than the seller's description.

MTV10 01-08-2018 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7352826)
Not really. I've yet to hear lifter noise from a car with a healthy valve train.

A friend of mine is looking for a 2013 or 2014 coupe with the forged internals... this would have been the perfect car had it not been "improved" by a tune (and now an engine in need of repairs). :(

P.S. The broken front plate mount - all of $20 and two minutes to replace - says a lot more about how well the car was looked after than the seller's description.

The tune has nothing to do with that ticking noise. I've had two C63's and both have made this noise after sitting for a few days. One was completely stock when I noticed the ticky valvetrain.

Diabolis 01-08-2018 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by MTV10 (Post 7352893)
The tune has nothing to do with that ticking noise. I've had two C63's and both have made this noise after sitting for a few days. One was completely stock when I noticed the ticky valvetrain.

While the tune may or may not have anything to do with the lifter noise, both the tune and the lifter noise would prevent me from recommending this particular vehicle to someone who is actively looking for one with cash in hand. As for your two C63s making that noise after sitting for a few days, I submit that they both had valvetrain wear issues. Whether and by how much a more aggressive tune (applied to an already aggressively tuned car that didn't really need it) contributed to the valvetrain wear is hard to quantify, but according to your logic, smokers that die from heart attacks are not really a result of them smoking because it was the heart attack that killed them.

MTV10 01-09-2018 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7353137)
While the tune may or may not have anything to do with the lifter noise, both the tune and the lifter noise would prevent me from recommending this particular vehicle to someone who is actively looking for one with cash in hand. As for your two C63s making that noise after sitting for a few days, I submit that they both had valvetrain wear issues. Whether and by how much a more aggressive tune (applied to an already aggressively tuned car that didn't really need it) contributed to the valvetrain wear is hard to quantify, but according to your logic, smokers that die from heart attacks are not really a result of them smoking because it was the heart attack that killed them.

Incorrect.

M156 valve buckets are prone to bleed down. Yes, this will over time cause valvetrain wear, but it is a characteristic of the M156 and does not mean your valvetrain currently has wear issues. Now, if this sound is present with every cold start, then you have a problem. This issue was addressed in the M159 with SLS buckets...

Diabolis 01-09-2018 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by MTV10 (Post 7353411)
Incorrect.

M156 valve buckets are prone to bleed down. Yes, this will over time cause valvetrain wear, but it is a characteristic of the M156 and does not mean your valvetrain currently has wear issues. Now, if this sound is present with every cold start, then you have a problem. This issue was addressed in the M159 with SLS buckets...

... which were also put in all M156 engines manufactured after a certain date (before the facelift), so the buckets in 2013 or 2014 MY cars that I was specifically referring to are most definitely NOT prone to bleeddown. When the shop foreman at a major corporate MB dealership tells me that valvetrain ticking noise on any FL car he has ever seen or heard of has been caused by valvetrain wear, I tend to believe him. I'm afraid it is correct.

unknown2k1 01-09-2018 03:01 PM

corrent me if im wrong but i thought 2015 was the last year they made 6.3l engine and 507s.

MTV10 01-09-2018 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7353678)
... which were also put in all M156 engines manufactured after a certain date (before the facelift), so the buckets in 2013 or 2014 MY cars that I was specifically referring to are most definitely NOT prone to bleeddown. When the shop foreman at a major corporate MB dealership tells me that valvetrain ticking noise on any FL car he has ever seen or heard of has been caused by valvetrain wear, I tend to believe him. I'm afraid it is correct.

FL cars have SLS buckets from the factory? I wasn't aware of that....

If valvetrain wear were the cause of this ticking noise, then how come it is intermittent and not always present? Care to explain?

skratch77 01-09-2018 06:40 PM

That car is really loud and might be low on oil or was ran hard with low oil.

I can't imagine what it sounds like with the hood open.

I would stay away and I've had my whole top end done under warranty and mine sounded way healthier than this car and still got the job done.

OP I would see if the car is under warranty and have the top end gone over.


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