Part number for caliper mounting bolts to knuckle?
These things really shouldn’t be reused and I’m a little nervous getting the car ready for track season as I’ve had the calipers on and off a number of times in the past couple years. Have read some horror stories about these fatiguing and letting go, catastrophically. Was just about to do it again tonight to put in new rear studs and didn’t have any spares. Can’t find the part numbers anywhere. Thx Also I’m seeing torque spec of 135ft/lbs which seems pretty aggressive. I think mine are on there now at 85. |
Yeah, I'm curious as well. When I did my front brakes, 135 ft-lbs seemed really high. It feels like you are going to break them. I would have liked to have replaced them.
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Caliper to retainer
https://www.mercedes-benz-shop.ca/en.../p/A0039907905 Retainer to knuckle https://www.mercedes-benz-shop.ca/en.../p/A0189900001 |
Originally Posted by Jasonoff
(Post 7435508)
Caliper to retainer
https://www.mercedes-benz-shop.ca/en.../p/A0039907905 Retainer to knuckle https://www.mercedes-benz-shop.ca/en.../p/A0189900001 |
This is what I found for torque.
Self locking bolt brake caliper to steering knuckle M14 180NM. Converts to 132.76 ft-lb so 135 ft-lb works. Source: Alldatadiy. |
Originally Posted by Mort
(Post 7436019)
This is what I found for torque.
Self locking bolt brake caliper to steering knuckle M14 180NM. Converts to 132.76 ft-lb so 135 ft-lb works. Source: Alldatadiy. |
Originally Posted by Jasonoff
(Post 7435508)
Caliper to retainer
https://www.mercedes-benz-shop.ca/en.../p/A0039907905 Retainer to knuckle https://www.mercedes-benz-shop.ca/en.../p/A0189900001 Is the Rear Caliper to Knuckle Bolt (A0189900001) the same as the Front Caliper Bracket to Knuckle Bolt? |
*Front bolts should be (M14x32), with # "001 990 08 14"
*Rear bolts should be (M12x35), with # "018 990 00 01" -;ZAYED;- |
Originally Posted by MBNRG
(Post 7471832)
Thank you
Is the Rear Caliper to Knuckle Bolt (A0189900001) the same as the Front Caliper Bracket to Knuckle Bolt? A 001 990 08 14 was the same part# I found in the WIS for front retainer to knuckle bolt. |
My thread title is wrong. I meant caliper to adapter bolt. And torque. Got the bolts. Still don’t have a good answer to the torque spec. In the rear there there is no adapter if I remember correctly. Caliper bolts directly to the knuckle. Does anyone have the bolt part numbers and torque specs for those too? Just going to re-do all of them. |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7472268)
My thread title is wrong. I meant caliper to adapter bolt. And torque. Got the bolts. Still don’t have a good answer to the torque spec. In the rear there there is no adapter if I remember correctly. Caliper bolts directly to the knuckle. Does anyone have the bolt part numbers and torque specs for those too? Just going to re-do all of them. The Bolt attaching Front Caliper to Caliper Bracket - there is a difference in length between our Racing Brake supplied bolts, and the OEM bolts IIRC. |
Originally Posted by MBNRG
(Post 7472295)
Jim, you are correct, Rear Caliper bolts directly to Rear Knuckle. Bolt Part Numbers for Rear Caliper to Knuckle are above - they are different than the Front Caliper Bracket/Adapter/Retainer to Front Knuckle.
The Bolt attaching Front Caliper to Caliper Bracket - there is a difference in length between our Racing Brake supplied bolts, and the OEM bolts IIRC. |
There're also allen key bolts, that directly holds the caliper to bracket,
as you know; no need to remove the hex bolts (at the knuckle) for replace Rotor or Pads, just remove the allen key bolts, will do the job,, *Allen Key bolt (M12x72), # "003 990 79 05"..:) -;ZAYED;-https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...24c6318770.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cea2b15629.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...eb5cb2744f.jpg |
Originally Posted by cm60k
(Post 7472441)
There're also allen key bolts, that directly holds the caliper to bracket
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...e-caliper.html Can't find the torque spec anywhere. Can you see the grade stamp on them anywhere? |
Those are the bolts we are talking about HERE |
As i remember;
*Hex bolts from bracket to knuckle is (115 Nm). *Allen Key bolts from caliper to bracket is (128 Nm). -;ZAYED;- |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7472470)
Those are the bolts we are talking about HERE |
Originally Posted by cm60k
(Post 7472481)
As i remember;
*Hex bolts from bracket to knuckle is (115 Nm). *Allen Key bolts from caliper to bracket is (128 Nm). -;ZAYED;- Better than the doofus who wanted me to torque them to 40 :rolleyes: |
Better do 130ft-lb just to be safe...
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Should there be loctite on the Allen bolts? I ask because even before my track day it appears they were backing out on one side after being reinstalled three months ago. |
Better to use 242 or 243 medium strength loctite..:)
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7472268)
My thread title is wrong. I meant caliper to adapter bolt. And torque. Got the bolts. Still don’t have a good answer to the torque spec. In the rear there there is no adapter if I remember correctly. Caliper bolts directly to the knuckle. Does anyone have the bolt part numbers and torque specs for those too? Just going to re-do all of them. |
Yeah you ideally have to get it up in the air. Like on a lift. Very difficult with car on stands. I managed with a short extension on the reverse-hex socket and a 3/8” torque wrench (my Precision has a v long handle). You’ll be crouching and pulling up on the drivers side and will have trouble keeping the socket on the bolts while getting enough leverage. It’s ripe for a chin whacker. Mine are are all still at 135ft-lbs. No problems so far. Will redo all of them over the winter when I install new rotor rings and use the 100ft-lbs spec and blue Loctite. |
I was just watching youtube. She installed caliper studs to replace the bolts we have been talking about. She has a GT350 but the caliper mounting is fairly similar to ours. I wonder if anyone makes a set of caliper studs that would work on our cars. |
I think that caliper studs would be a real pain in the ass. I’d rather have all that thread in the adapter or knuckle than a nut on the end with a dozen threads holding it on that would be more likely to spin off. Plus, it’s tight in there. I think this is an instance of trying to stud something for no benefit. If race cars don’t use studs then why would anyone do this? I just don’t see a benefit, only drawbacks. |
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