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nardobenz 05-01-2018 11:03 PM

Switched from Eurocharged v7 to custom dyno tune *dyno inside*
 
Stock car with high flow filters and secondary cat delete made 370whp on 91 (Forgot to print but will post when I can)



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9f1f14db41.jpg
Eurocharged v6(red)/v7(blue) + arh catless long tubes made 450/390

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...44df9464ac.jpg

Returned the v7 and got a custom dyno tune, made 475/425

AMGonFire 05-01-2018 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by nardobenz (Post 7444402)
Stock car with high flow filters and secondary cat delete made 370whp on 91

Eurocharged v7 + arh catless long tubes made 450/390

Returned the v7 and got a custom dyno tune, made 475/425

I will post dyno sheets when I get home.

who did your dyno tune?

nardobenz 05-01-2018 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by AMGonFire (Post 7444405)


who did your dyno tune?

Dyno-Comp

bentz69 05-02-2018 12:07 AM

hmmmmm, my EC v7 with catless headers made 472/435 :nix:

did you only do one pull on the v6 flash then flash right over to v7 and do only one pull?

mr747 05-02-2018 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by nardobenz (Post 7444402)
Stock car with high flow filters and secondary cat delete made 370whp on 91 (Forgot to print but will post when I can)



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9f1f14db41.jpg
Eurocharged v6(red)/v7(blue) + arh catless long tubes made 450/390

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...44df9464ac.jpg

Returned the v7 and got a custom dyno tune, made 475/425

Of course your gonna make more power with a custom tune
Excellent job by eurocharged offering such a high power tune via the mail

Nice numbers

nardobenz 05-02-2018 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by bentz69 (Post 7444438)
hmmmmm, my EC v7 with catless headers made 472/435 :nix:

did you only do one pull on the v6 flash then flash right over to v7 and do only one pull?

did a few pulls, those were the best for both software versions. But yeah, flashed v7 then did a few pulls so that may have affected it a little since it didn’t have time to adjust.

nardobenz 05-02-2018 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by mr747 (Post 7444442)
Of course your gonna make more power with a custom tune
Excellent job by eurocharged offering such a high power tune via the mail

Nice numbers

Decent numbers, horrible drivability for my car. It ran like crap.

Celicasaur 05-02-2018 05:24 AM

Very nice. Must be a lot nicer now everywhere :y

I really want to know more about this whole 'learning' thing. I was always under the impression that it was learning AFR/fuel trims, which would result in a nominal improvement in power and drivability. What else can the ECU possibly learn to make better power :nix:

mr747 05-02-2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Celicasaur (Post 7444509)
Very nice. Must be a lot nicer now everywhere :y

I really want to know more about this whole 'learning' thing. I was always under the impression that it was learning AFR/fuel trims, which would result in a nominal improvement in power and drivability. What else can the ECU possibly learn to make better power :nix:

Hi IATs ECU pulls timing cold IATs adds timing
Fuel Octane high Octane EcU adds timing low Octane pulls timing

And all viceversa for fuel trims and AFR

also ECU learns driving style and gearbox modes

Celicasaur 05-02-2018 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by mr747 (Post 7444582)
Hi IATs ECU pulls timing cold IATs adds timing
Fuel Octane high Octane EcU adds timing low Octane pulls timing

And all viceversa for fuel trims and AFR

also ECU learns driving style and gearbox modes

All true and i hear you on those points....

However...if say, IATs are favourable (in he 20c range), fuel being used is good and target timing of say 25 degree's is being achieved (on the dyno after a tune has been uploaded)...what else happens after that with the learning? :nix:

I can understand if the ECU by default refuses to hit the target numbers due to safety and wants to slowly ease itself into it while monitoring knock, but I can't understand it if all target values have been achieved in the first place. I'm saying this largely because on my car it has very recently decided to give me a bit more pull and smoothness in the power delivery since when I dyno tuned it. Fuelling and timing is the same as what it was before... :nix:

ML63 AMG 05-02-2018 01:18 PM

Strong numbers for Arizona, but it's hard to visualize without having both on the same dyno chart. Anyway you can have dyno-comp put V7 vs custom tune on the same chart?

mr747 05-02-2018 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Celicasaur (Post 7444614)
All true and i hear you on those points....

However...if say, IATs are favourable (in he 20c range), fuel being used is good and target timing of say 25 degree's is being achieved (on the dyno after a tune has been uploaded)...what else happens after that with the learning? :nix:

I can understand if the ECU by default refuses to hit the target numbers due to safety and wants to slowly ease itself into it while monitoring knock, but I can't understand it if all target values have been achieved in the first place. I'm saying this largely because on my car it has very recently decided to give me a bit more pull and smoothness in the power delivery since when I dyno tuned it. Fuelling and timing is the same as what it was before... :nix:

Maybe you have some secrets your not telling us

TBH man i really cant answer answer of your learning questions i can only pass on what experiences i have with the process

Best person to answer these questions would be the Tech guys from Weistec

I would love for Anthony to come on here and explain

Jasonoff 05-02-2018 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by bentz69 (Post 7444438)
hmmmmm, my EC v7 with catless headers made 472/435 :nix:

did you only do one pull on the v6 flash then flash right over to v7 and do only one pull?

I wasn't joking when I called your car a slow pos...

nardobenz 05-02-2018 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by ML63 AMG (Post 7444781)
Strong numbers for Arizona, but it's hard to visualize without having both on the same dyno chart. Anyway you can have dyno-comp put V7 vs custom tune on the same chart?

I’m sure they would if I asked.

G_Money 05-02-2018 11:23 PM

So was this dyno tyne-for-dyno tuno, or a flash tune vs a custom dyno tune?

nardobenz 05-02-2018 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by G_Money (Post 7445286)
So was this dyno tyne-for-dyno tuno, or a flash tune vs a custom dyno tune?

Eurocharged flash vs custom dyno

intence 05-03-2018 01:05 AM

did the custom dyno tune impact transmission jerkiness or shifting?

nardobenz 05-03-2018 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by intence (Post 7445319)
did the custom dyno tune impact transmission jerkiness or shifting?

Car isn’t jerky—drives completely stock now. And no it doesn’t affect shifting unless you get the TCU tune.

Celicasaur 05-03-2018 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by mr747 (Post 7445072)
Maybe you have some secrets your not telling us

TBH man i really cant answer answer of your learning questions i can only pass on what experiences i have with the process

Best person to answer these questions would be the Tech guys from Weistec

I would love for Anthony to come on here and explain

Fair play bud, I appreciate your feedback all the same :y - I wish I had some secrets to make even more power....if I did, I'd use them right away, lol.

Ahhh yes, Mr Anthony....what a guy. I have lot's of respect for him and would love to buy him some chicken one day.

Doc Oc 05-03-2018 09:27 AM

Might've missed it but were these runs done on the same day? If not, similar conditions?

nardobenz 05-03-2018 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Doc Oc (Post 7445445)
Might've missed it but were these runs done on the same day? If not, similar conditions?

yes same day


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