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Switched from Eurocharged v7 to custom dyno tune *dyno inside*

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Switched from Eurocharged v7 to custom dyno tune *dyno inside*

Stock car with high flow filters and secondary cat delete made 370whp on 91 (Forgot to print but will post when I can)




Eurocharged v6(red)/v7(blue) + arh catless long tubes made 450/390



Returned the v7 and got a custom dyno tune, made 475/425

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Originally Posted by nardobenz
Stock car with high flow filters and secondary cat delete made 370whp on 91

Eurocharged v7 + arh catless long tubes made 450/390

Returned the v7 and got a custom dyno tune, made 475/425

I will post dyno sheets when I get home.
who did your dyno tune?
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who did your dyno tune?
Dyno-Comp
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hmmmmm, my EC v7 with catless headers made 472/435

did you only do one pull on the v6 flash then flash right over to v7 and do only one pull?
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Originally Posted by nardobenz
Stock car with high flow filters and secondary cat delete made 370whp on 91 (Forgot to print but will post when I can)




Eurocharged v6(red)/v7(blue) + arh catless long tubes made 450/390



Returned the v7 and got a custom dyno tune, made 475/425
Of course your gonna make more power with a custom tune
Excellent job by eurocharged offering such a high power tune via the mail

Nice numbers
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Originally Posted by bentz69
hmmmmm, my EC v7 with catless headers made 472/435

did you only do one pull on the v6 flash then flash right over to v7 and do only one pull?
did a few pulls, those were the best for both software versions. But yeah, flashed v7 then did a few pulls so that may have affected it a little since it didn’t have time to adjust.
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Of course your gonna make more power with a custom tune
Excellent job by eurocharged offering such a high power tune via the mail

Nice numbers
Decent numbers, horrible drivability for my car. It ran like crap.
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Very nice. Must be a lot nicer now everywhere

I really want to know more about this whole 'learning' thing. I was always under the impression that it was learning AFR/fuel trims, which would result in a nominal improvement in power and drivability. What else can the ECU possibly learn to make better power
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Originally Posted by Celicasaur
Very nice. Must be a lot nicer now everywhere

I really want to know more about this whole 'learning' thing. I was always under the impression that it was learning AFR/fuel trims, which would result in a nominal improvement in power and drivability. What else can the ECU possibly learn to make better power
Hi IATs ECU pulls timing cold IATs adds timing
Fuel Octane high Octane EcU adds timing low Octane pulls timing

And all viceversa for fuel trims and AFR

also ECU learns driving style and gearbox modes
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Hi IATs ECU pulls timing cold IATs adds timing
Fuel Octane high Octane EcU adds timing low Octane pulls timing

And all viceversa for fuel trims and AFR

also ECU learns driving style and gearbox modes
All true and i hear you on those points....

However...if say, IATs are favourable (in he 20c range), fuel being used is good and target timing of say 25 degree's is being achieved (on the dyno after a tune has been uploaded)...what else happens after that with the learning?

I can understand if the ECU by default refuses to hit the target numbers due to safety and wants to slowly ease itself into it while monitoring knock, but I can't understand it if all target values have been achieved in the first place. I'm saying this largely because on my car it has very recently decided to give me a bit more pull and smoothness in the power delivery since when I dyno tuned it. Fuelling and timing is the same as what it was before...
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Strong numbers for Arizona, but it's hard to visualize without having both on the same dyno chart. Anyway you can have dyno-comp put V7 vs custom tune on the same chart?
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Originally Posted by Celicasaur
All true and i hear you on those points....

However...if say, IATs are favourable (in he 20c range), fuel being used is good and target timing of say 25 degree's is being achieved (on the dyno after a tune has been uploaded)...what else happens after that with the learning?

I can understand if the ECU by default refuses to hit the target numbers due to safety and wants to slowly ease itself into it while monitoring knock, but I can't understand it if all target values have been achieved in the first place. I'm saying this largely because on my car it has very recently decided to give me a bit more pull and smoothness in the power delivery since when I dyno tuned it. Fuelling and timing is the same as what it was before...
Maybe you have some secrets your not telling us

TBH man i really cant answer answer of your learning questions i can only pass on what experiences i have with the process

Best person to answer these questions would be the Tech guys from Weistec

I would love for Anthony to come on here and explain
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Originally Posted by bentz69
hmmmmm, my EC v7 with catless headers made 472/435

did you only do one pull on the v6 flash then flash right over to v7 and do only one pull?
I wasn't joking when I called your car a slow pos...
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Strong numbers for Arizona, but it's hard to visualize without having both on the same dyno chart. Anyway you can have dyno-comp put V7 vs custom tune on the same chart?
I’m sure they would if I asked.
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So was this dyno tyne-for-dyno tuno, or a flash tune vs a custom dyno tune?
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Originally Posted by G_Money
So was this dyno tyne-for-dyno tuno, or a flash tune vs a custom dyno tune?
Eurocharged flash vs custom dyno
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did the custom dyno tune impact transmission jerkiness or shifting?
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did the custom dyno tune impact transmission jerkiness or shifting?
Car isn’t jerky—drives completely stock now. And no it doesn’t affect shifting unless you get the TCU tune.
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Originally Posted by mr747
Maybe you have some secrets your not telling us

TBH man i really cant answer answer of your learning questions i can only pass on what experiences i have with the process

Best person to answer these questions would be the Tech guys from Weistec

I would love for Anthony to come on here and explain
Fair play bud, I appreciate your feedback all the same - I wish I had some secrets to make even more power....if I did, I'd use them right away, lol.

Ahhh yes, Mr Anthony....what a guy. I have lot's of respect for him and would love to buy him some chicken one day.
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Might've missed it but were these runs done on the same day? If not, similar conditions?
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Might've missed it but were these runs done on the same day? If not, similar conditions?
yes same day

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