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skratch77 09-09-2018 12:12 PM

Ok guys I ran another bottle of bg44k fuel cleaner and just looked at 3 pistons.

they are almost brand new.this stuff is amazing!

I'll be changing my o2 sensors in a few weeks to have everything fresh also.

here are a few pics!!! Wow unreal results.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c17ea12da3.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a438bece69.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...922d2eb6aa.jpg

BLKROKT 09-09-2018 01:31 PM

That’s ridiculous! I have 4 cans of the stuff here and will use it the next time I take my car out.

BTW when you said you tightened your IM bolts as much as you could by hand.... really? Was that after the initial torque sequence or what was your process? Like, gorilla tight? I’d really like to look at putting studs in there, but I’d be afraid to crack the IM screw bosses.

skratch77 09-09-2018 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7549752)
That’s ridiculous! I have 4 cans of the stuff here and will use it the next time I take my car out.

BTW when you said you tightened your IM bolts as much as you could by hand.... really? Was that after the initial torque sequence or what was your process? Like, gorilla tight? I’d really like to look at putting studs in there, but I’d be afraid to crack the IM screw bosses.

I went gorilla tight by hand and I did it the next day again on a cold engine.

This time I used same bolts and no issues so far.

BLKROKT 09-09-2018 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7549754)
I went gorilla tight by hand and I did it the next day again on a cold engine.

This time I used same bolts and no issues so far.

Wow. I may go out there and try giving them another 1/4 of a turn now.

Gorilla tight with just a regular 3/8 hand ratchet I assume and not a big torque wrench or breaker bar....

skratch77 09-09-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7549777)


Wow. I may go out there and try giving them another 1/4 of a turn now.

Gorilla tight with just a regular 3/8 hand ratchet I assume and not a big torque wrench or breaker bar....

with a screw driver by hand

BLKROKT 09-09-2018 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7549784)
with a screw driver by hand

Ah, that makes more sense thanks lol

bhamg 09-09-2018 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7549716)
Ok guys I ran another bottle of bg44k fuel cleaner and just looked at 3 pistons.

they are almost brand new.this stuff is amazing!

I'll be changing my o2 sensors in a few weeks to have everything fresh also.

here are a few pics!!! Wow unreal results.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c17ea12da3.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a438bece69.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...922d2eb6aa.jpg

Unreal! Great photos. Many people say a fuel system cleaner is unnecessary if one uses good gas but this is truly amazing to see and proof positive that there are additives that can clean combustion chambers.

Jasonoff 09-09-2018 07:28 PM

That's pretty sweet, I should scope mine. Catch can AND always use Shell 91 ethanol free fuel. Plus I beat the piss out of it often.

skratch77 09-09-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jasonoff (Post 7549924)
That's pretty sweet, I should scope mine. Catch can AND always use Shell 91 ethanol free fuel. Plus I beat the piss out of it often.

I've been waiting to see other pistons to compare to mine.

This is what I used to look at mine

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9b49eabdad.jpg

bhamg 09-09-2018 07:51 PM

Also, it's interesting to see the material erosion on the crown. I expected to see more generalized material loss as opposed to the deeper veining here. Ironically some carbon in the veins likely protects them from further erosion.

Jasonoff 09-09-2018 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7549929)
I've been waiting to see other pistons to compare to mine.

This is what I used to look at mine

Cool, thanks for the info.

skratch77 04-19-2019 01:53 PM

I decided to scope 2 cylinders again and they look like absolute ****.

I'm running another can or two of the bk cleaner. I think my 36-40 ltft are causing carbon build up.

My trims with my air setup are very high on idle and drop to 9-10 while driving and with OEM boxes I get 5-7 lifts while idling.

Here is a picture with less than 3k miles from the clean cylinders above.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...3e43f8d347.jpg

BITRBO 04-19-2019 04:29 PM

Question: when you ran that bg44k stuff, did you just daily drive it until the tank was empty or is your car mostly a track car? And does that stuff change the octane rating much?

I'm fairly certain the previous owner never did this on my car so it's prolly not a bad idea at 35k... Just wondering if it's a good idea to throw a bottle in the tank before a track day or could I be putting the engine and/or other components at risk?

skratch77 04-20-2019 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by BITRBO (Post 7736527)
Question: when you ran that bg44k stuff, did you just daily drive it until the tank was empty or is your car mostly a track car? And does that stuff change the octane rating much?

I'm fairly certain the previous owner never did this on my car so it's prolly not a bad idea at 35k... Just wondering if it's a good idea to throw a bottle in the tank before a track day or could I be putting the engine and/or other components at risk?

I would run a bottle a tank before you track it and let the track session burn out the rest of the carbon left over.

It does not affect octane and you cant tell the difference with the stuff in the tank.

Please do a before and after if you can

///Bruce 04-22-2019 05:08 PM

Will a few cans of this rid the intake manifold of the excess oil in there, or do you still need to take off the intake manifold to clean it all out?

hachiroku 04-22-2019 05:16 PM

since this is run through the fuel system, it will not clean your intake system. anything past the injectors would be affected.

///Bruce 04-22-2019 05:30 PM

So..... to do it right, it should be pulled. Can I make the leap of faith and believe that the Weistec catch can will prevent or at least slow this down from happening again?

exhaustgases 04-22-2019 10:27 PM

And hopefully the cleaner doesn't pollute the O2 sensors.

hachiroku 04-23-2019 12:07 PM

does the engine perform better after cleaning?

Vladds 04-23-2019 03:22 PM

Cleaning too often cannot be a good thing.

skratch77 04-23-2019 03:32 PM

Few things that were changed and not sure what caused the carbon build up.

1 took out the oil catch can (had warranty work done)
2 ran silver colder plugs for about 3500 miles
3 took out stock air boxes and put on row/carbonio that caused long term fuel trims at idle to hit 38-45 on both banks.
4 ran a few tanks of e85 but that was literally a day before looking at the cylinders.

Jasonoff 04-23-2019 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7739770)
Few things that were changed and not sure what caused the carbon build up.

1 took out the oil catch can (had warranty work done)
2 ran silver colder plugs for about 3500 miles
3 took out stock air boxes and put on row/carbonio that caused long term fuel trims at idle to hit 38-45 on both banks.
4 ran a few tanks of e85 but that was literally a day before looking at the cylinders.

Sooooo you removed the one thing that prevents loads of oil being dumped into your intake and you're wondering why the cylinder heads are full of junk? :nix: :stick:

NotABaller 04-23-2019 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jasonoff (Post 7739887)
Sooooo you removed the one thing that prevents loads of oil being dumped into your intake and you're wondering why the cylinder heads are full of junk? :nix: :stick:

but everyone else without a catch can is getting oil dumped into intake :nix:

skratch77 04-23-2019 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jasonoff (Post 7739887)
Sooooo you removed the one thing that prevents loads of oil being dumped into your intake and you're wondering why the cylinder heads are full of junk? :nix: :stick:

Yes because less that 3k miles of normal driving will cause this much carbon without a catch can.

Btw this is not oil it's to much fuel

Jasonoff 04-23-2019 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7739903)
Yes because less that 3k miles of normal driving will cause this much carbon without a catch can.

Btw this is not oil it's to much fuel

And what causes the fuel mix to be off?


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