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May 26, 2020 | 09:29 PM

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DavesMeanE's

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Originally Posted by BLKROKT

Weistec tuned ECU and modified Valve Body here, going strong for 4yrs with tons of track time. I have a little 3-4 slip now but it's not terrible. I don't know how wise it is to tune the TCU without the supporting Valve Body modifications to allow for the higher line pressures.

The TCU tune works completely independently of any mechanical VB modification. In fact, I don't know that Weistec even offers it any longer, and to my knowledge they were the only ones who did (and only for a short time). Bottom line is the TCU tune is well proven and it will do all the things it advertises. It won't cause adverse or accelerated wear in the trans just by having it. The end user may cause this accelerated wear, by driving the car harder, racing more, launching more on sticky tires, or whatever. The tune has nothing to do with that

It's kind of like when people ask "will my gas mileage go down after the tune?" The answer is, of course: It depends on how you drive the car! If your intention is to drive faster and harder, then yes, you will use more fuel...But if you drive the exact same way you do now? There will be no change. This tune is considered "Stage 1" which raises the tq limits up a nice bit, but is still safe for the hard parts, all while still yielding great results. The M156's don't make a lot of torque (as compared to an M157), so it will be much easier on their transmissions.

It's also not "new", this tune has been around for about a decade, and is the same white label tuner that ALL of the big names use...

Hope this clears some stuff

Thanks

Dave

May 26, 2020 | 10:31 PM

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BLKROKT

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Yeah, I should’ve said that I LOVE the TCU/VB tune combo. Money well spent.

May 26, 2020 | 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BLKROKT

Yeah, I should’ve said that I LOVE the TCU/VB tune combo. Money well spent.

I know that this will probably stir things up... But some in the M157 world feel that's it's more valuable than even an ECU tune as the first mod... I'm doing the TCU tune on a bone stock 2014 E63s later this week, and I'll have some before and after results. I expect it will be pretty amazing.

Thanks!

Dave

May 27, 2020 | 04:59 AM

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RNS-11Z

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Is there anything for the m156 non mct trans?

May 27, 2020 | 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RNS-11Z

Is there anything for the m156 non mct trans?

yes, same benefits apply to the NON MCT variants aswell in this case for the 6.2

May 27, 2020 | 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thebug44

@DavesMeanE's and @5soko care to comment on this? Idk if mentioning members in here works

Dave gave some good info above. This is available for the platform, for MCT and NON MCT. Anyone who needs help can contact me within the northeast region of the country, outside of there, Dave is taking care of many cities as seen above

As mentioned, and when pertaining to eurocharge, this isnt a general eurocharge offering, this is exclusive to Dave from eurocharge ATX only.

Responding to the clutch wear comment: Raising line pressure and clutch clamping force will only help the clutches when dealing with high TQ situations and cars above stock level power. For cars that have a ECU tune, IMO an TCU tune is the perfect compliment to help The two work together in harmony to produce great results. We have been denied this part of tuning for some time now, as the rest of the world has enjoyed its benefits, but i think many will come to love having the Powertrain fully tuned and working together for a very enjoyable driving experience esp for us enthusiasts. Flash is done via obd, on site via laptop, remotely from Germany.

May 27, 2020 | 08:14 AM

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Is this kirlandhas tune?

May 27, 2020 | 08:17 AM

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Is this kirlandhas tune?

No sir, I believe the above mentioned is based in the USA, im not very familiar with his offerings.

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May 27, 2020 | 08:18 AM

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No sir, I believe the above mentioned is based in the USA, im not very familiar with his offerings.

he is in germany and my ecu and tcu is on the way to him. Just thought it might be his as he has tuned the fastest amgs in the world over there.

May 27, 2020 | 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by skratch77

he is in germany and my ecu and tcu is on the way to him. Just thought it might be his as he has tuned the fastest amgs in the world over there.

No, this is not from him.

Maybe a small correction there, That might be GAD tuning with the fastest amg’s in the world.

May 27, 2020 | 08:30 AM

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No, this is not from him.

Maybe a small correction there, That might be GAD tuning with the fastest amg’s in the world.

What does gads car do 60 to 130 in? Kirk's has 5.09 and a w205 full weight c63 doing mid 9s at 145 in the quarter mile here in the states.

He has a 4 liter blower and cams on a w204 c63 right now in tuning.

May 27, 2020 | 08:32 AM

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I know they have 1200HP w204’s with M157 swaps 😂 im a big fan of GAD so don’t mind me.
Sorry to take this off topic.

May 27, 2020 | 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 5soko

I know they have 1200HP w204’s with M157 swaps 😂 im a big fan of GAD so don’t mind me.
Sorry to take this off topic.

Ya no disrespect to gads cars I've watched them so many times on YouTube lol. Anyways let's not take the thread off topic.

May 27, 2020 | 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaideep Singh

It would be great to get some clarity for PFL W204 C63 transmission. Also I do not understand one thing, claim says

0.2 sec decrease in ¼ mile
0.3 sec decrease in the 0 to 60 time down to 2.7 seconds!

So if 0-60 goes down by 0.3 seconds than how come 1/4 mile goes down by only 0.2 second? 1/4 mile time should go down by at least 0.3 sec or more. Am I missing something? Sorry I do not want to offend anyone. This is just a thought that came to my mind reading the claims.

Anyways thank you EC for the tune. Would love to know if it would work on PFL with torque converter?

Yes you are missing something.
Acceleration vs Distance.

May 27, 2020 | 09:53 AM

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Jaideep Singh

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Originally Posted by sventastic82

Yes you are missing something.
Acceleration vs Distance.

Care to explain??

You would do 0-60 when running 1/4 mile. Also if shifting is faster, technically you should shave more than 0.3 seconds over the distance as you would have atleast three shifting events, which in theory would be faster than before.

May 27, 2020 | 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaideep Singh

it’s hard to understand until you do. When you are going 0-60 you aren’t traveling a set distance so even though the shave .3s off that doesn’t mean the distance travelled doing it prior and .3s slower is the same. So to get to the distance that you tracked on the .3s slower run may take you another .1s or so and thus your quarter mile time for example isn’t the .3 seconds faster you would think it should be

May 27, 2020 | 11:55 AM

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DavesMeanE's, I saw this asked earlier, but didn't see it explicitly answered in the thread:

Does this TCU flash also improve (reduce) the delay when using the paddle shifters? Thanks for all the info and explanations!

May 27, 2020 | 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcderpa

I can't really make that promise because of the variables involved in how that works. It will though, for a fact, shorten the shift time once it does shift.

Thanks!

Dave