Hello folks,

I test drove the C63 SE car, I liked it overall but leasing only so I don't commit to full purchase and not deal with issues that may crop up down the line due to the complex design
I am considering leasing a in stock 2024 c63 SE ao I can just put some commuting and some fun miles for next 2-3 years , average mSrp on in-stock cars is about 98 -105K, What is the % Realistic discount one can expect on these cars sitting at local dealers in NY,PA, NJ CT ( northeast region)
Thx for the forum and all the info you guys provide

 

The rule of thumb I always went by for MB is 8% off MSRP is a great deal (true MSRP, not what the dealer thinks it's worth). I personally wouldn't settle for anything less than 8% right now because of where the market is for this car.

 

Thank you for the info Silver -5, I appreciate it . I get it that it is a very different car and on my second detailed test drive I felt it didn't have the emotion , in fact a dealer's GT 53 4 door felt so much better sound wise and comfort wise
I am not sure if I wanna proceed with c63 SE

 

I don't know what they go for, but given that they've been selling poorly elsewhere, 8% seems very low. The new SL also sells poorly and you can get double digit discounts on it because of it. Maybe given the C63 SE just started selling recently in North America, dealerships still think they can move these closer to MSRP. I'd definitely recommend to drive it a few times before committing. FWIW, here's my impression driving it at an AMG event in Germany back in September. Similar to your GT 53 experience, I much preferred the CLE 53, even though it has less power and is not a "full fledged" AMG. The 53 models are starting to become the sweet spot for AMGs it seems,

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c43-a...ve-c63-se.html

 

The exhaust in the c43 is a separate option on the small screens on the steering wheel where as in C63 se there is no option. I believe you only get the sport sound in Sport plus and I also could not figure how to turn on just the exhaust from ICE engine In individual mode when everything else( engine, suspension ) is set to comfort on the C63 SE.

 

I just purchased mine, I got an amazing deal on mine. Message me if you want one, I can get you more than 8% off, I have a few dealers willing to blow them out.

Getting tinted

 

I'd shoot for 12% minimum. End of year, if you go in last day December you should be able to cut yourself a good number.

 

At this point a dealership would probably have to start their offer with at least a 25% discount and near 0% MF/Interest rate to even make me entertain the thought. This car will likely depreciate worse than even the 50% drop in value over only 1-2 years seen in EVs like the EQS for example. The powertrain will be largely worthless after the warranty has expired due to costing a fortune to repair whenever something goes wrong. Gotta be kinda insane to be willing to lose this much money on a car over such a short time period. Canada has now pulled the car from their website. Looks like they were only willing to run this experiment for one model year. I can't imagine they even sold enough of them to cover the homologation costs. That's gotta be the shortest run of a new model outside of limited production exotics. They even pulled the C43 I just noticed.

 

Oddly enough, the lease numbers are pretty aggressive on them right now given the discounts offered on them. They’re currently leasing for close to pre covid pricing w205 c63s. I used to own one which was also leased. To be honest, until you drive one or own one, all the reviews in my opinion were exaggerated. Other than the v8 sound, the car actually performs well. I’ve recently just got rid of my g80 m3 comp due to insurance companies in NYC not wanting to insure bmws anymore. (I was quoted 98,000 dollars for 6 months to keep the g80 m3 lol from one company). The car is definitely faster than the g80, brakes better, quieter cabin (no wind noise etc.). Better interior, better sound system. Way more options and it’s costing me on the lease about 600 less a month. I’m still under break in period, so other than doing some quick sprints in race mode to 100 mph and I haven’t fully opened it up yet. I was a tech for Mercedes since 2006, so huge fan of the 204 and 205 c63. Performance wise I don’t think this car falls short. I’m not really a track guy and haven’t been in a while, I do however open up the car whenever I am able to. It also came with pilot sport 4S which are far better than the pzeros my g80 had. Will update on how it’s doing after a few months, but so far so good, even though it weights a lot, the drivetrain doesn’t make you feel that way. I did speak to a few techs and guys I know in engineering and they’ve also said the latest Mercedes they’ve been primarily focused on correcting all the software issues, engine, and transmission issues as well. But also 25% discount isn’t realistic, effectively they have been recently selling because of all the incentives and discounts. I think realistically 12-15-% plus rebates is what someone will be able to get one given its end of year. I got an absolute deal for mine and so far I love it.

 

the guy is so obsessed with hate towards w206 AMGs that he spends his time browsing MB worldwide sites in an attempt to sniff out some negative info.

 

Lmao I’m new here, and just joined but is that really true @Dima?

 

Browse his posts. Most are smart and helpful, but when it comes to w206 AMG, he appears to lose it.

 

lol, prolly hates the fact they went to a 4 cylinder

 

FYI...I don't read Dima's post. He's on my ignore list. I actually drive these cars. Was just in Germany in September driving the C63 SE around Mercedes' own test facility. You know driving a 680 hp performance car around congested NYC streets is pretty unhelpful unless we are talking about the commuting experience in a Toyota Camry. I'm guessing you haven't experienced the inconsistent performance yet when the peak power drops over 100 hp after 10 seconds, or when it cuts power for 2 seconds in Sport+ and Race while the rear transmission shifts from 1st to 2nd. In Comfort mode it's always in 2nd. I don't buy cars like this to twiddle my thumbs in stop&go traffic or entertain folks like Dima. You are welcome to read my impressions I posted in a separate thread after properly driving it. I gave it credit for the straight line speed for example. But I also drove the CLE 53 at the same time and despite being down in power it was a much better experience.

 

I mean I’ve owned the w205 c63s. Loved it, I’ve also driven that car on the track, first impressions haven’t noticed much of a difference yet. How long ago did you experience the blips in race mode? My understanding is alot of that’s been corrected lately. I’ve also owned the w205 c43 and I’ve driven the w204 c63. I think at the end of the day Mercedes has always been ahead of the curve with technology, everyone is afraid of change and hates their ideas and then a few years later it ends up being standard. As far as complicated goes, every single company is heading that way. The new c63 was built with ideas taken from the amg one. I think everyone is so focused on Oh it’s not a v8, but I think before forming an opinion, everyone should really drive one properly. It may not be for everyone, but being someone who’s owned a couple of these things, so far so good.

 

It's not even the V8 to be honest. Some people seem to put every AMG owner in the same basket. I know a lot are hampering on the loss of the V8. Now, don't get me wrong, the 205 had way more character than the buzzy 4-banger, and the 204 even more so. Much of the sound is actually piped in through the speakers. Again, if you'd read my impressions you'd also know that I found it to sound better in person than I expected. The C63 SE is an absolutely great commuter car driven exclusively in automatic mode. I'm just not sure why I'd spend 6 figures on it to drive to work at 25 mph on congested streets and then have to deal with the inconsistent performance, the weight and all the lag when I do get a chance to drive it above 6/10th. That's especially an issue for me since I don't commute or daily drive much. You'd arrive at your destination in NYC just as fast in a C300 and wouldn't miss much. Just saying.

 

To each their own I guess, I don’t primarily drive it nyc congestion. I do a lot of driving overall, I probably drive 4-500 miles a week, I have other vehicles, but the times I wanna enjoy a drive I would take the c63s.

 

That is certainly true. But seems that given this thing sells like ****e, it doesn't seem to be many people's own. At some point people have to acknowledge that the experiment has failed. BTW, you mentioned the AMG One. Nothing like the new C63. Not even remotely. Similar tech such as the battery and electric turbo, but the AMG One has three electric motors, no complicated 2-speed transmission and an actual F1 engine. Completely different architecture. No they didn't let us drive it, but I was there. We got to drive the AMG GT Black Series, though, so this perhaps gives you a better idea of my background.