W205 C63S vs. W204 C63 Review by Mode Carbon
10-06-2015, 01:46 PM
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We are currently working diligently to complete our full kit for the W205 C63S. As soon as we have more information we will be sure to share everything with you guys through this channel. Our carbon fibre weave will be of an identical match to that of OEM Mercedes Benz. We pride ourselves on top quality carbon fibre and we will strive for nothing less than what we have already brought to the AMG marketplace.
10-09-2015, 11:28 AM
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Thanks for the review.
As most cars evolve they get better. Better meaning smoother, more efficient and safer. The problem is that they get more boring as well. I can think of two iconic cars this has happened to: BMW M3 and Porsche 911. The both got heavy, smoother and boring compared to the earlier more engaging versions. I see this happening the W204 C63 which is in my opinion the pinnacle drivers car the AMG has built to date.
Some comments from the review that illustrate loss of driver engagement.
" The W204 is more raw, slamming the power into the pavement like a pissed off brute. The W205 is a bit more sophisticated in its power delivery, making it far more capable when the road starts to turn with loads of torque available when exiting corners. The smooth power delivery is less snappy than the W204"
" I can say that I would like a little more feedback from the steering in the W205, as it felt a little numb at times."
Pretty much what I thought after driving an AMG GTS back to back with my C63 BS. Prettier car but less exciting to drive.
As most cars evolve they get better. Better meaning smoother, more efficient and safer. The problem is that they get more boring as well. I can think of two iconic cars this has happened to: BMW M3 and Porsche 911. The both got heavy, smoother and boring compared to the earlier more engaging versions. I see this happening the W204 C63 which is in my opinion the pinnacle drivers car the AMG has built to date.
Some comments from the review that illustrate loss of driver engagement.
" The W204 is more raw, slamming the power into the pavement like a pissed off brute. The W205 is a bit more sophisticated in its power delivery, making it far more capable when the road starts to turn with loads of torque available when exiting corners. The smooth power delivery is less snappy than the W204"
" I can say that I would like a little more feedback from the steering in the W205, as it felt a little numb at times."
Pretty much what I thought after driving an AMG GTS back to back with my C63 BS. Prettier car but less exciting to drive.
10-12-2015, 02:58 PM
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Thanks for the review.
As most cars evolve they get better. Better meaning smoother, more efficient and safer. The problem is that they get more boring as well. I can think of two iconic cars this has happened to: BMW M3 and Porsche 911. The both got heavy, smoother and boring compared to the earlier more engaging versions. I see this happening the W204 C63 which is in my opinion the pinnacle drivers car the AMG has built to date.
Some comments from the review that illustrate loss of driver engagement.
" The W204 is more raw, slamming the power into the pavement like a pissed off brute. The W205 is a bit more sophisticated in its power delivery, making it far more capable when the road starts to turn with loads of torque available when exiting corners. The smooth power delivery is less snappy than the W204"
" I can say that I would like a little more feedback from the steering in the W205, as it felt a little numb at times."
Pretty much what I thought after driving an AMG GTS back to back with my C63 BS. Prettier car but less exciting to drive.
As most cars evolve they get better. Better meaning smoother, more efficient and safer. The problem is that they get more boring as well. I can think of two iconic cars this has happened to: BMW M3 and Porsche 911. The both got heavy, smoother and boring compared to the earlier more engaging versions. I see this happening the W204 C63 which is in my opinion the pinnacle drivers car the AMG has built to date.
Some comments from the review that illustrate loss of driver engagement.
" The W204 is more raw, slamming the power into the pavement like a pissed off brute. The W205 is a bit more sophisticated in its power delivery, making it far more capable when the road starts to turn with loads of torque available when exiting corners. The smooth power delivery is less snappy than the W204"
" I can say that I would like a little more feedback from the steering in the W205, as it felt a little numb at times."
Pretty much what I thought after driving an AMG GTS back to back with my C63 BS. Prettier car but less exciting to drive.
Stay tuned for this guy
11-03-2015, 12:03 PM
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We are proud to announce our first product offering for the W205 platform, the Mode Carbon Bootlid Spoiler! Please be sure to check out the product showcase thread if you have not already.
11-11-2015, 03:29 PM
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Great review, thanks. I have a question specific to power delivery. I thought the old 6.2L engine was sublime with its linearity. A very gratifying feeling to have that smooth unrelenting power. The w205 appears to be improved in every other dimension but I'm concerned with turbo lag. Did you notice lag and if so, to what extent? Thanks again.
11-11-2015, 04:02 PM
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Great review, thanks. I have a question specific to power delivery. I thought the old 6.2L engine was sublime with its linearity. A very gratifying feeling to have that smooth unrelenting power. The w205 appears to be improved in every other dimension but I'm concerned with turbo lag. Did you notice lag and if so, to what extent? Thanks again.
11-11-2015, 08:23 PM
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It has been a while since we last drove this car however from what I do remember the lag was very minimal. If in the proper gear upon planting your foot the throttle response is great. I believe that in a higher gear if you are to plant your foot the 6.3 might be more responsive.
11-13-2015, 02:30 PM
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At any RPM above 2,500 in any gear, there is no detectable turbo lag. Below 2,500, depending on gear selection, there can be some turbo lag, but even there it is nothing like the old days (stomp on gas, count to 3 (or 5), feel acceleration). Driving the W204 and W205 back to back, you get the feeling that the W204 is telepathic and actually starts accelerating in anticipation of throttle application. By contrast, the W205 feels responsive, but it definitely waits for you to press the gas before blasting off.
I can't say I notice that much difference between the steering feel on the 204 v. 205. With stock tires, the front end grip of the 204 is nothing to write home about, so even if there is more feel, it doesn't help much.
I enjoy driving both cars, but for me the 205 is definitely a step up.
I can't say I notice that much difference between the steering feel on the 204 v. 205. With stock tires, the front end grip of the 204 is nothing to write home about, so even if there is more feel, it doesn't help much.
I enjoy driving both cars, but for me the 205 is definitely a step up.
11-14-2015, 02:34 PM
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At any RPM above 2,500 in any gear, there is no detectable turbo lag. Below 2,500, depending on gear selection, there can be some turbo lag, but even there it is nothing like the old days (stomp on gas, count to 3 (or 5), feel acceleration). Driving the W204 and W205 back to back, you get the feeling that the W204 is telepathic and actually starts accelerating in anticipation of throttle application. By contrast, the W205 feels responsive, but it definitely waits for you to press the gas before blasting off.
I can't say I notice that much difference between the steering feel on the 204 v. 205. With stock tires, the front end grip of the 204 is nothing to write home about, so even if there is more feel, it doesn't help much.
I enjoy driving both cars, but for me the 205 is definitely a step up.
I can't say I notice that much difference between the steering feel on the 204 v. 205. With stock tires, the front end grip of the 204 is nothing to write home about, so even if there is more feel, it doesn't help much.
I enjoy driving both cars, but for me the 205 is definitely a step up.
11-14-2015, 06:49 PM
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W205: creaky dash, side trims falling off (fixed under warranty). If you have a good example, it's a fabulous car. I did not have a good example, so I moved on. I promise I won't troll around here beating this to death. I do see value in potential buyers understanding the need to check for these issues BEFORE they buy.... they can come up AFTER you purchase, and MB will in some cases just ignore or deny your problem. So GL.
If you have the non-noisy version rock on! It's a FAST fuel efficient stylish beasty. I'm sure they will get the bugs worked out during this model run.
If you have the non-noisy version rock on! It's a FAST fuel efficient stylish beasty. I'm sure they will get the bugs worked out during this model run.
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At any RPM above 2,500 in any gear, there is no detectable turbo lag. Below 2,500, depending on gear selection, there can be some turbo lag, but even there it is nothing like the old days (stomp on gas, count to 3 (or 5), feel acceleration). Driving the W204 and W205 back to back, you get the feeling that the W204 is telepathic and actually starts accelerating in anticipation of throttle application. By contrast, the W205 feels responsive, but it definitely waits for you to press the gas before blasting off.
I can't say I notice that much difference between the steering feel on the 204 v. 205. With stock tires, the front end grip of the 204 is nothing to write home about, so even if there is more feel, it doesn't help much.
I enjoy driving both cars, but for me the 205 is definitely a step up.
I can't say I notice that much difference between the steering feel on the 204 v. 205. With stock tires, the front end grip of the 204 is nothing to write home about, so even if there is more feel, it doesn't help much.
I enjoy driving both cars, but for me the 205 is definitely a step up.
