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I believe hey just released the ordering guide for the 2018 models with minimal changes. Most of it was just packages and small details like that. If you want to sit for a facelift you will be waiting at least another 1.5 years.
Also if you plan to mod it you will have to wait for parts to be realeesd
Also if you plan to mod it you will have to wait for parts to be realeesd
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It was 4 years on the W203 and 4 years on the W204 before they did the facelift (on the 5th year). Looks like they're testing the one piece screen from their higher level cars. If you want to wait, then wait?
I personally don't like the digital screen tach and speedo. Just don't like they way they look, "feel", and their depth. Much more prefer the analog needles flying up and down.
Unless you're in a vehicle with a super-fast revving V10 that was forced to use a screen because the needle was too slow.
I personally don't like the digital screen tach and speedo. Just don't like they way they look, "feel", and their depth. Much more prefer the analog needles flying up and down.
Unless you're in a vehicle with a super-fast revving V10 that was forced to use a screen because the needle was too slow.
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But totally agree about the screen awkwardly stuck on the dash... Mercedes really screwed the pooch on that one.
I'm coming from an 09 c63, and my screen would retract and conceal itself in the dash when you turned the car off... And mechanically come out of the dash once you turned the car on.
I loved that feature and wish they'd have Incorporated that design on the w205... But, oh well, gotta take the good with the bad sometimes.
Still love the s**t out of this car.
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I see no point in waiting for new versions or facelifts anymore. Look what they did with the c400,450,43. If you like the car, buy it, enjoy it and when your lease is up or you decide to sell, get whatever is out at that point. Cars no longer stay the same for 7-10 years. Small tweaks and changes are happening every few years and if you're always waiting for the "new" thing you will never buy a car.
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I could care less about the headlights upgrade on the facelift... Actually, I like the way the headlights look now.
But totally agree about the screen awkwardly stuck on the dash... Mercedes really screwed the pooch on that one.
I'm coming from an 09 c63, and my screen would retract and conceal itself in the dash when you turned the car off... And mechanically come out of the dash once you turned the car on.
I loved that feature and wish they'd have Incorporated that design on the w205... But, oh well, gotta take the good with the bad sometimes.
Still love the s**t out of this car.
But totally agree about the screen awkwardly stuck on the dash... Mercedes really screwed the pooch on that one.
I'm coming from an 09 c63, and my screen would retract and conceal itself in the dash when you turned the car off... And mechanically come out of the dash once you turned the car on.
I loved that feature and wish they'd have Incorporated that design on the w205... But, oh well, gotta take the good with the bad sometimes.
Still love the s**t out of this car.
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If the rumors about the headlights are true, that's a pretty big bummer. The C and E-Class are already so similar in design (the sedan in particular)... sharing the headlight design (one of main design cues that distinguishes the two) is going to make them look even more similar.
The digital cluster is the least desirable change in my opinion. I can go on and on about why analog is better than digital... would you rather wear an iWatch or a Rolex? Sometimes technology isn't necessarily a good thing when it steps on the look and feel. A screen will always be flat, but analog gauges add actual three dimensional depth and space. I'd rather take the Rolex...
The digital cluster is the least desirable change in my opinion. I can go on and on about why analog is better than digital... would you rather wear an iWatch or a Rolex? Sometimes technology isn't necessarily a good thing when it steps on the look and feel. A screen will always be flat, but analog gauges add actual three dimensional depth and space. I'd rather take the Rolex...
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If the rumors about the headlights are true, that's a pretty big bummer. The C and E-Class are already so similar in design (the sedan in particular)... sharing the headlight design (one of main design cues that distinguishes the two) is going to make them look even more similar.
The digital cluster is the least desirable change in my opinion. I can go on and on about why analog is better than digital... would you rather wear an iWatch or a Rolex? Sometimes technology isn't necessarily a good thing when it steps on the look and feel. A screen will always be flat, but analog gauges add actual three dimensional depth and space. I'd rather take the Rolex...
The digital cluster is the least desirable change in my opinion. I can go on and on about why analog is better than digital... would you rather wear an iWatch or a Rolex? Sometimes technology isn't necessarily a good thing when it steps on the look and feel. A screen will always be flat, but analog gauges add actual three dimensional depth and space. I'd rather take the Rolex...
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Completely, totally 100% agree ! I never buy initial release of any brands new models that I'm interested in, I always wait for the last/end of model run releases - that's where usually if not always the best of everything is
For those concerned if when the update arrives and you prefer the pre face lifted model (highly unlikely from what previous history has shown) then you can always just grab the pre face lift quickly before it ends.
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This ^^^^
Completely, totally 100% agree ! I never buy initial release of any brands new models that I'm interested in, I always wait for the last/end of model run releases - that's where usually if not always the best of everything is
For those concerned if when the update arrives and you prefer the pre face lifted model (highly unlikely from what previous history has shown) then you can always just grab the pre face lift quickly before it ends.
Completely, totally 100% agree ! I never buy initial release of any brands new models that I'm interested in, I always wait for the last/end of model run releases - that's where usually if not always the best of everything is
For those concerned if when the update arrives and you prefer the pre face lifted model (highly unlikely from what previous history has shown) then you can always just grab the pre face lift quickly before it ends.
After a facelift, you've got at most 3-4 years before a completely new model is released.. at which time you'll start lusting after the new one..
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If the face lift really does have that dash I'd wait and get that. However if they plan to roll it out on all the models I expect the price of the c class to go up a tad.
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If the rumors about the headlights are true, that's a pretty big bummer. The C and E-Class are already so similar in design (the sedan in particular)... sharing the headlight design (one of main design cues that distinguishes the two) is going to make them look even more similar.
The digital cluster is the least desirable change in my opinion. I can go on and on about why analog is better than digital... would you rather wear an iWatch or a Rolex? Sometimes technology isn't necessarily a good thing when it steps on the look and feel. A screen will always be flat, but analog gauges add actual three dimensional depth and space. I'd rather take the Rolex...
The digital cluster is the least desirable change in my opinion. I can go on and on about why analog is better than digital... would you rather wear an iWatch or a Rolex? Sometimes technology isn't necessarily a good thing when it steps on the look and feel. A screen will always be flat, but analog gauges add actual three dimensional depth and space. I'd rather take the Rolex...
And very nice analogy with watches....i feel exactly the same and would also get the Rolex
video is dated.
none of this information is even correct/verified.
I don't see any new information regarding the release. Waiting for a facelift right now, without any verified information that it will even come is quite silly IMO.
none of this information is even correct/verified.
I don't see any new information regarding the release. Waiting for a facelift right now, without any verified information that it will even come is quite silly IMO.
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I agree. When I was researching the facelift there were a lot of sites showing pictures of different headlights and grill and others showing the opposite. Most of the stuff seemed to be click-bait driven with no factual information. At that point, I went ahead and ordered MY2018 because the wait would be around 1.5 years for the facelift, which is 1.5 years less of enjoying the c63.
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Precisely why I went ahead and picked up my MY 17. I don't see the reason to wait over a year just for some changed headlights and maybe the bigger screens integrated. I prefer the analog tachometer and the center floating display doesn't bother me.
Precisely why I went ahead and picked up my MY 17. I don't see the reason to wait over a year just for some changed headlights and maybe the bigger screens integrated. I prefer the analog tachometer and the center floating display doesn't bother me.
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Eh. I'm the opposite. A facelift is typically just that.. underneath it all it's largely the same platform. Thus, purchasing the initial run allows you to enjoy the platform the longest.
After a facelift, you've got at most 3-4 years before a completely new model is released.. at which time you'll start lusting after the new one..
After a facelift, you've got at most 3-4 years before a completely new model is released.. at which time you'll start lusting after the new one..
Yes the platform underneath is the same (usually is for many subsequent models in a row) but drive train, suspension, brakes, wheels, internal kit and features etc. are usually updated/upgraded making it a different feel to drive and look and again usually for the better.
If the next model is again a step up and worth getting I'll follow the same process and wait till the post mid life update cycle on that one as well before buying it as posted by Bashar Halabi I too have been buying cars this way for the past 20 years and found for me it's the much better way to go, before that I used to jump in straight away upon seeing a new model I liked and always regretted it as later down the model cycle run they released superior variant updates of that model, IMHO it's a waist of money to update on the same model post mid life update (unless someone else is paying for it lol) better to just wait for the next new one.
Getting back to the 205 C class interior update info I have suggests the new full E dash will not be fitted to this gen C Class, it'll most likely feature on the next gen C class.
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GLE versus ML was after facelift.I agree. Same here. Would rather have the mid-model updated version.
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I've been reading that but that doesn't stop many from buying - including you. Sounds like you will be preferring the facelift. Should have waited.
Sounds like you proved the point to wait for the facelift. You not gonna have an issue like C400/C450/C43 issue after the facelift. GLE versus ML was after facelift.
I agree. Same here. Would rather have the mid-model updated version.
Sounds like you proved the point to wait for the facelift. You not gonna have an issue like C400/C450/C43 issue after the facelift.
GLE versus ML was after facelift.I agree. Same here. Would rather have the mid-model updated version.
As said it'll be a case of each to their own for all of their own reasons, mine is from past experience and has paid off well to just be a little patient with these things
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It's all a different perspective for different people
Yes the platform underneath is the same (usually is for many subsequent models in a row) but drive train, suspension, brakes, wheels, internal kit and features etc. are usually updated/upgraded making it a different feel to drive and look and again usually for the better.
If the next model is again a step up and worth getting I'll follow the same process and wait till the post mid life update cycle on that one as well before buying it as posted by Bashar Halabi I too have been buying cars this way for the past 20 years and found for me it's the much better way to go, before that I used to jump in straight away upon seeing a new model I liked and always regretted it as later down the model cycle run they released superior variant updates of that model, IMHO it's a waist of money to update on the same model post mid life update (unless someone else is paying for it lol) better to just wait for the next new one.
Getting back to the 205 C class interior update info I have suggests the new full E dash will not be fitted to this gen C Class, it'll most likely feature on the next gen C class.
Yes the platform underneath is the same (usually is for many subsequent models in a row) but drive train, suspension, brakes, wheels, internal kit and features etc. are usually updated/upgraded making it a different feel to drive and look and again usually for the better.
If the next model is again a step up and worth getting I'll follow the same process and wait till the post mid life update cycle on that one as well before buying it as posted by Bashar Halabi I too have been buying cars this way for the past 20 years and found for me it's the much better way to go, before that I used to jump in straight away upon seeing a new model I liked and always regretted it as later down the model cycle run they released superior variant updates of that model, IMHO it's a waist of money to update on the same model post mid life update (unless someone else is paying for it lol) better to just wait for the next new one.
Getting back to the 205 C class interior update info I have suggests the new full E dash will not be fitted to this gen C Class, it'll most likely feature on the next gen C class.
People just don't have enough patience these days, and the thing with Merc when they do the facelift they change a lot of things, lights, bumper, power, full suspension, gearbox, coding and even interior, unlike BMW M they do super minor things! So for me wait for the facelift!
I was going to swap my M4 to the C63 Coupe but I wont right now! the current C63 have tons of issued plus facelift will be out in the 10-14 months! better wait now and not regret later...
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Well explained Sir!
People just don't have enough patience these days, and the thing with Merc when they do the facelift they change a lot of things, lights, bumper, power, full suspension, gearbox, coding and even interior, unlike BMW M they do super minor things! So for me wait for the facelift!
I was going to swap my M4 to the C63 Coupe but I wont right now! the current C63 have tons of issued plus facelift will be out in the 10-14 months! better wait now and not regret later...
People just don't have enough patience these days, and the thing with Merc when they do the facelift they change a lot of things, lights, bumper, power, full suspension, gearbox, coding and even interior, unlike BMW M they do super minor things! So for me wait for the facelift!
I was going to swap my M4 to the C63 Coupe but I wont right now! the current C63 have tons of issued plus facelift will be out in the 10-14 months! better wait now and not regret later...
Also, I have had 0 problems with my C63S Coupe which is from one of the early production builds in 10/16. No creaking, electrical problems, or anything that's been reported on the boards. Remember, this is a very small sample size represented here. In fact, I'd say this forum in particular is dead compared to the amount of C63S activity there is on Instagram...As for whether it's worth waiting for the facelift, that's personal preference. I waited long enough for the Coupe and had to have it when deliveries started last year. I'm not going to wait another 2-3 years for a Coupe facelift, I'd rather wait it out for the next generation.
It's the same deal with my iPhone... you can either buy the new hotness right now (when it's the most exciting and desirable), or wait for the "S" model the following year which is more of the same, but better. Some people want that, others would rather be on the next-gen cycle to have the new right now, and not the facelift cycle which is just to extend the life of a product until the replacement comes out. Not saying it's not better (because it is), it's just not much "newer" when you know the next update will be a new generation model.
No matter what or when you buy, it will always be outdated within a few years. It's better not to worry and wait - just enjoy it!
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C63S Coupe facelift will not be out in 10-14 months. For the sedan, however, yes Also, I have had 0 problems with my C63S Coupe which is from one of the early production builds in 10/16. No creaking, electrical problems, or anything that's been reported on the boards. Remember, this is a very small sample size represented here. In fact, I'd say this forum in particular is dead compared to the amount of C63S activity there is on Instagram...
As for whether it's worth waiting for the facelift, that's personal preference. I waited long enough for the Coupe and had to have it when deliveries started last year. I'm not going to wait another 2-3 years for a Coupe facelift, I'd rather wait it out for the next generation.
It's the same deal with my iPhone... you can either buy the new hotness right now (when it's the most exciting and desirable), or wait for the "S" model the following year which is more of the same, but better. Some people want that, others would rather be on the next-gen cycle to have the new right now, and not the facelift cycle which is just to extend the life of a product until the replacement comes out. Not saying it's not better (because it is), it's just not much "newer" when you know the next update will be a new generation model.
No matter what or when you buy, it will always be outdated within a few years. It's better not to worry and wait - just enjoy it!
Also, I have had 0 problems with my C63S Coupe which is from one of the early production builds in 10/16. No creaking, electrical problems, or anything that's been reported on the boards. Remember, this is a very small sample size represented here. In fact, I'd say this forum in particular is dead compared to the amount of C63S activity there is on Instagram...As for whether it's worth waiting for the facelift, that's personal preference. I waited long enough for the Coupe and had to have it when deliveries started last year. I'm not going to wait another 2-3 years for a Coupe facelift, I'd rather wait it out for the next generation.
It's the same deal with my iPhone... you can either buy the new hotness right now (when it's the most exciting and desirable), or wait for the "S" model the following year which is more of the same, but better. Some people want that, others would rather be on the next-gen cycle to have the new right now, and not the facelift cycle which is just to extend the life of a product until the replacement comes out. Not saying it's not better (because it is), it's just not much "newer" when you know the next update will be a new generation model.
No matter what or when you buy, it will always be outdated within a few years. It's better not to worry and wait - just enjoy it!
