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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 05:04 PM
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I want to say something here with no intention of offending any 63s owners. I really think some of you should take a step back and stop your ego from downright dismissing a 43 that easily. I am going to be upgrading to a 63s coupe soon once the facelift comes out, but this will be purely for aesthetical reason as the 63 coupe looks out of the world aggressive.

But even after getting the 63s I will never ever dismiss the 43. Having driven both and swapping it for a week even with my friend's 63s, I can tell you that if you underestimate a C43 that much, stock vs stock you are due for a rude awakening. If you guys ever have some free time, go to a dealership and ask to test drive a 43 with a PE. The PE makes a much bigger difference with the 43 than the 63 as noticed by a lot of people. Also case in point, MT's review car did not have PE. If you want the real impression of a c63vs c43, watch Rokenr's review of it. And if you are under the impression that the c63 pops and crackles a lot, you clearly have never heard the overrun on a 43 on lift off neither have you heard the upshift bangs that the 43 with a PE makes. It does not take me a long time to drown the sound of my friend's 63s with my 43 at city driving speeds. I also have a lot of go pro videos of me roaming around with him, I will upload one if I get a chance.

What I am trying to say is, I will be getting a 63s soon, it is one of my all time favorite car. But it would be a really really really hard day for me when I will have to say goodbye to my 43. If you have not driven it, don't dismiss it like that.
I owned a car with a screaming turbo V6 that revs to 8200 RPM, cracks, pops, shoots fire... much louder than both the C43 and C63S, yet the M177 V8 still sounds the best to my ears. Loud doesn't always mean good sounding, just look at any F80/F82 M3/M4 with an exhaust and downpipes. Loud as hell, but sounds like an industrial lawnmower on steroids. I'm not saying the C43 sounds bad, it's just not unique in that it's a twin turbo V6 with a relatively uncorked exhaust.

Upgrading to a C63S from your C43 for purely aesthetic reasons is taking a hell of a monetary hit for something so arbitrary when you consider the fact that you're making the C43 out to be as formidable to a C63S...simply based on exhaust decibels. Obviously, there's a whole lot more you're getting than looks and sound.

You're also another data point that not many sound minded people would downgrade to a C43 from a C63S
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexZTuned
I owned a car with a screaming turbo V6 that revs to 8200 RPM, cracks, pops, shoots fire... much louder than both the C43 and C63S, yet the M177 V8 still sounds the best to my ears. Loud doesn't always mean good sounding, just look at any F80/F82 M3/M4 with an exhaust and downpipes. Loud as hell, but sounds like an industrial lawnmower on steroids. I'm not saying the C43 sounds bad, it's just not unique in that it's a twin turbo V6 with a relatively uncorked exhaust.

Upgrading to a C63S from your C43 for purely aesthetic reasons is taking a hell of a monetary hit for something so arbitrary when you consider the fact that you're making the C43 out to be as formidable to a C63S...simply based on exhaust decibels. Obviously, there's a whole lot more you're getting than looks and sound.

The C43 is a downgrade from a C63s, no questions about it. But not as much as you would think, that is all I am saying.

You're also another data point that not many sound minded people would downgrade to a C43 from a C63S
I was not necessarily pointing at just the exhaust decibels. Even with the sound quality the 43 is right up there with 63s, which was also admitted by my friend after he drove my 43 for an entire weekend. So this was not just my opinion. When we go out for a drive together, with no intention of bragging, it is usually me who gets more questions about the exhaust than him. Also I know I am putting a lot of precedence on the engine and the exhaust, but this has always been the AMG's strong suit. Otherwise, lets be honest, there are few reasons to choose a 63s over an M4. The AMG sound still to this day are turning people towards it rather than the M division. Yes Mercedes has a better interior but so does BMW now with the new generation. Exterior looks are really subjective though.

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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by munis
I was not necessarily pointing at just the exhaust decibels. Even with the sound quality the 43 is right up there with 63s, which was also admitted by my friend after he drove my 43 for an entire weekend. So this was not just my opinion. When we go out for a drive together, with no intention of bragging, it is usually me who gets more questions about the exhaust than him. Also I know I am putting a lot of precedence on the engine and the exhaust, but this has always been the AMG's strong suit. Otherwise, lets be honest, there are few reasons to choose a 63s over an M4. The AMG sound still to this day are turning people towards it rather than the M division. Yes Mercedes has a better interior but so does BMW now with the new generation. Exterior looks are really subjective though.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by munis
I was not necessarily pointing at just the exhaust decibels. Even with the sound quality the 43 is right up there with 63s, which was also admitted by my friend after he drove my 43 for an entire weekend. So this was not just my opinion. When we go out for a drive together, with no intention of bragging, it is usually me who gets more questions about the exhaust than him.
Are people under 15 allowed to be posting on this forum?
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 07:27 PM
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Are people under 15 allowed to be posting on this forum?
Haha, I might have sprinkled some salt. Here is the funny thing though, my go pro is always on. So it won't be hard to prove haha.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 02:19 PM
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I had a C43..I saw the C43 as more of an introductory vehicle to the AMG line. It taught me all the things I wanted as far as options and performance in my next AMG. It held it's own though! It was pretty powerful and crazy in its own way. I liked how the C43 was always trying to pull forward and go. I felt like I had to keep the "reins" pretty tight on her. I grew up on V6s and loved the flat 6s, V6s of my past Porsches and Supra.

I sold the C43 and just picked up my 2018 C63S though, this past weekend lolol. So I did make the upgrade. I do feel like the C43 was a softer ride and more convenient because it was a sedan. You're talking about a .08 second difference in acceleration to 60 mph. To be fair.. it's not really that much of a difference. Plus the C43 would never burn out on launch (I haven't tried to launch in the C63S because I have only 500 miles on it). The key difference and selling point for me was the rumble of the V8, sportier coupe, added options and the ability to tune for better performance well beyond that of the C43. I do really like the C63S more. It's just a beast and I enjoy the rumble of the engine/exhaust. I purchased more options with this AMG and really like them - Distronic, HUD and Parking assist. Those options go a long way for me. Everything really about the C63S as far as looks, performance, etc just does it for me more than the C43. Never going back!

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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MBzW205
I had a C43..I saw the C43 as more of an introductory vehicle to the AMG line. It taught me all the things I wanted as far as options and performance in my next AMG. It held it's own though! It was pretty powerful and crazy in its own way. I liked how the C43 was always trying to pull forward and go. I felt like I had to keep the "reins" pretty tight on her. I grew up on V6s and loved the flat 6s, V6s of my past Porsches and Supra.

I sold the C43 and just picked up my 2018 C63S though, this past weekend lolol. So I did make the upgrade. I do feel like the C43 was a softer ride and more convenient because it was a sedan. You're talking about a .08 second difference in acceleration to 60 mph. To be fair.. it's not really that much of a difference. Plus the C43 would never burn out on launch (I haven't tried to launch in the C63S because I have only 500 miles on it). The key difference and selling point for me was the rumble of the V8, sportier coupe, added options and the ability to tune for better performance well beyond that of the C43. I do really like the C63S more. It's just a beast and I enjoy the rumble of the engine/exhaust. I purchased more options with this AMG and really like them - Distronic, HUD and Parking assist. Those options go a long way for me. Everything really about the C63S as far as looks, performance, etc just does it for me more than the C43. Never going back!
So tell me, with all this, do you see a reason to go from the C63s to the C43?
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 04:54 PM
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This belongs to the " rice " section. There's no reason to downgrade to a 43 when the e63 is out.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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So tell me, with all this, do you see a reason to go from the C63s to the C43?
No not at all. I went from a sedan to a coupe though. I could see myself going back to a sedan, and If I went back to a sedan, I'd do E, S or CLS class instead of a C. More room and more refined. I like my C63S coupe too much right now though!
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 03:03 AM
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My story is I had a bmw 335 that was tuned and too wild for my new wife. She only wanted a Prius, save the world tree hugging type person. I also had a Range Rover. I t was too big for her to drive and she only loved riding shotgun in it.
i decided to get an M4. She wasn’t into it, and it failed to strum my Gitau because to be honest my tuned 335 was bad ***. So we went to Mercedes and tried the C300. I hated it, but she conceded to accept one instead of a Prius. I was paying and couldn’t see spending my money on a Prius. I made her deal, I’ll buy something acceptable to both of us, and when she starts working makes her own money she can get her Prius then. I then tried the C450 AMG. Liked it but not enough to buy it. Decided we should go look at some other cars, and I really wanted a coupe buy conceded to her accepted I’d get a sedan because we’d be having a baby in the not too distant future. What about the Rover ?no she couldn’t drive that. Fine, as I was leaving I was offered a test drive in a C63S. I declined several times but guy was persuasive. I disclosed I had been wanting an M 4 and it failed to impress so I would probably be biting the bullet and looking at Porsche. Guy says let’s go out in the C63S you have nothing to loose and it might be enough and save you an bigger bill with Porsche. Ah ok, why not...
by the time we turned back from that test drive I had a silly ear to ear grin. Sold! It was not about budget, legacy or any shush abstracts, nothing but just pure emotion the car evoked.

These days we we go for any long trips in the Rover. We both prefer it for that. But she got used to the C63S except she kept scrapping the wheels, so I pushed her into the Rover and she reluctantly started driving after I took her to an off-road driver class at Land Rover. Before I knew it she was in love with the Range Rover and just defaults to only wanting to drive it. No more scrapped wheels on the C63S. My only regret is I should have gotten my coupe, but I didn’t know she’d eventually muster the confidence to drive the rage Rover comfortably. Would I trade for C43? No.i would if I had to, I just don’t want to, because I prefer the C63S.

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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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Eh, I think you'll find C43 owners upgrading to a C63S and not vice versa. You'll be hard pressed to find any C63S owners who are downgrading to a C43. If anything they'll be moving up to an AMG GTS, E63S, etc. Personally, I'm drooling over the 991.2 GT3... that will probably be my next move in a few years after I get tired of the C63S Coupe.
Me too!!! Love my 63s coupe, but I am actively looking for a 2018 GT3 now!!
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 09:51 AM
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Ha nice.. im upgrading my C300 for a 43.. Does that count ? lol... I was fine if they called it a C450 AMG sport lol.. Its my daily in the northeast/mid atlantic.. 362hp is fine for daily.. like the 4matic.. sounds decent also.. Id love to have a C63S (wagon lol)...

The C43 sedan will see some light track duty (I also have a vette, just for track really), so we see...
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MBzW205
I had a C43..I saw the C43 as more of an introductory vehicle to the AMG line. It taught me all the things I wanted as far as options and performance in my next AMG. It held it's own though! It was pretty powerful and crazy in its own way. I liked how the C43 was always trying to pull forward and go. I felt like I had to keep the "reins" pretty tight on her. I grew up on V6s and loved the flat 6s, V6s of my past Porsches and Supra.

I sold the C43 and just picked up my 2018 C63S though, this past weekend lolol. So I did make the upgrade. I do feel like the C43 was a softer ride and more convenient because it was a sedan. You're talking about a .08 second difference in acceleration to 60 mph. To be fair.. it's not really that much of a difference. Plus the C43 would never burn out on launch (I haven't tried to launch in the C63S because I have only 500 miles on it). The key difference and selling point for me was the rumble of the V8, sportier coupe, added options and the ability to tune for better performance well beyond that of the C43. I do really like the C63S more. It's just a beast and I enjoy the rumble of the engine/exhaust. I purchased more options with this AMG and really like them - Distronic, HUD and Parking assist. Those options go a long way for me. Everything really about the C63S as far as looks, performance, etc just does it for me more than the C43. Never going back!
Can you please tell me if you feel the difference between 7G and 9G transmissions. I'm not sure if i should wait for the C63S Coupe MY2019 or just get a discounted MY2017/2018..
I had a C450 with 7G and it was a complete junk compared to C43 9G transmission..
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Old Jan 1, 2018 | 02:34 PM
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Can you please tell me if you feel the difference between 7G and 9G transmissions. I'm not sure if i should wait for the C63S Coupe MY2019 or just get a discounted MY2017/2018..
I had a C450 with 7G and it was a complete junk compared to C43 9G transmission..
Once I break in the engine I'll get a better idea and let you know. That 9G was lightning quick!
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