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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 02:37 PM
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Does the tuner matter?

Hey all,
Thinking about getting my car tuned soon... it's a daily driver so I don't have time to have the ECU removed and ship it out. There is a local tuner here who seems pretty decent, but here's the catch -- they do 99% of their custom dyno tunes on American Muscle (Hellcats, Demons, etc) along with a lot of hardware installs on those cars. I think they have tuned ONE Ed1 C63 Coupe. Would they presumably do as good of a job as a tuner more experienced with C63's (like Eurocharged)? Is tuning all the same across all platforms? Or is there enough of a difference where I should just make a weekend trip down to Eurocharged (about 3 hours away from me) and get it done "right"?

Other option is just to get a Dinan Chip installed... but I've always been partial to a custom ECU tune rather than an OTS piggyback.
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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Hey all,
Thinking about getting my car tuned soon... it's a daily driver so I don't have time to have the ECU removed and ship it out. There is a local tuner here who seems pretty decent, but here's the catch -- they do 99% of their custom dyno tunes on American Muscle (Hellcats, Demons, etc) along with a lot of hardware installs on those cars. I think they have tuned ONE Ed1 C63 Coupe. Would they presumably do as good of a job as a tuner more experienced with C63's (like Eurocharged)? Is tuning all the same across all platforms? Or is there enough of a difference where I should just make a weekend trip down to Eurocharged (about 3 hours away from me) and get it done "right"?

Other option is just to get a Dinan Chip installed... but I've always been partial to a custom ECU tune rather than an OTS piggyback.
There is a massive difference in tuners. We have tuned over 28,000 cars to date, and we are always finding new ways to extract power and better the product. The other big difference is we offer a motor protection warranty!

You could easily just send the ecu to us and we can tune it and send it back!
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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Hey all,
Thinking about getting my car tuned soon... it's a daily driver so I don't have time to have the ECU removed and ship it out. There is a local tuner here who seems pretty decent, but here's the catch -- they do 99% of their custom dyno tunes on American Muscle (Hellcats, Demons, etc) along with a lot of hardware installs on those cars. I think they have tuned ONE Ed1 C63 Coupe. Would they presumably do as good of a job as a tuner more experienced with C63's (like Eurocharged)? Is tuning all the same across all platforms? Or is there enough of a difference where I should just make a weekend trip down to Eurocharged (about 3 hours away from me) and get it done "right"?

Other option is just to get a Dinan Chip installed... but I've always been partial to a custom ECU tune rather than an OTS piggyback.
Yes the tune makes all the difference in the world. Renntech is the only one that is honored through most dealers. Im not sure what eurocharged policy is but it sounds like its a premium you pay for protection. With any and all of my mercedes, theyve had renntech software for the last 10+ years. zero failures and more importantly, zero warranty issues, ever. i have been told the dinan unit is a nice upgrade but it doesnt offer the same gains or flexibility of an actual tune.
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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Hey all,
Thinking about getting my car tuned soon... it's a daily driver so I don't have time to have the ECU removed and ship it out. There is a local tuner here who seems pretty decent, but here's the catch -- they do 99% of their custom dyno tunes on American Muscle (Hellcats, Demons, etc) along with a lot of hardware installs on those cars. I think they have tuned ONE Ed1 C63 Coupe. Would they presumably do as good of a job as a tuner more experienced with C63's (like Eurocharged)? Is tuning all the same across all platforms? Or is there enough of a difference where I should just make a weekend trip down to Eurocharged (about 3 hours away from me) and get it done "right"?

Other option is just to get a Dinan Chip installed... but I've always been partial to a custom ECU tune rather than an OTS piggyback.
I would definitely pass on your local tuner. Ask the guy in the OE Tuning thread how his small time turner worked out for him!
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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 09:16 PM
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If you want a custom tune, go with whoever is the most credible, proven tuner that's local to you. Especially if they're within driving distance. A place that doesn't specialize in AMG's is not a good option (tuning one doesn't count).

However, if we're talking just a stage 1 (stock downpipes), I would just go with a Dinan piggyback. Unless you want to go catless DP's in the future and want to squeeze out every little bit of power... maybe there's another 20 whp or so that you could tap out of the stock turbos on pump gas with a custom ECU dyno tune? Personally, I don't think it's worth the trouble on stock turbos unless you're tuning for E85 or race gas. The turbos run out of steam up top, and so the limit on pump gas for stage 1/2 on pump gas is pretty standard across the board with the tunes out there.

If you're only going to run stage 1 on pump gas, just get the Dinan... 2-3 hours of your own time to install and you can always remove it.
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