Full exhaust options for facelifted 2019 C63S
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ok so this is interesting...UK has the PF build code but US builds do not, yet AMG reps allude to a single exhaust across all markets...do we think there is no PF in the US market or that the factory tune is actually what's the same across all markets? If the latter, one can surmise that the existence of the PF does not have any bearing on the exhaust sound...?
Last edited by munis; Aug 19, 2019 at 01:58 PM.
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@munis how do you know for sure? to date, it sounds like it's just speculation based on cryptic statements from AMG reps in various news articles. if you know for sure that's the case, why doesn't the build code show up as it does in the EU?
further, if you are sure it's in there, do you know where it's located so we can CHOP it off?
further, if you are sure it's in there, do you know where it's located so we can CHOP it off?
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@munis how do you know for sure? to date, it sounds like it's just speculation based on cryptic statements from AMG reps in various news articles. if you know for sure that's the case, why doesn't the build code show up as it does in the EU?
further, if you are sure it's in there, do you know where it's located so we can CHOP it off?
further, if you are sure it's in there, do you know where it's located so we can CHOP it off?
Only way you will know if a 2019 owner takes it to a exhaust shop and chops it off. I am just saying do not think the American cars dont have it just because the option code does not show up.
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Just a simple deduction on my part; not saying I'm right/wrong...
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My 2019 is not muted in any way when I compare it to my 2017.
It actually sounds louder with a deeper tone
The pops and crackles aspect is getting better and better.
Absolutely delighted with my car.
It actually sounds louder with a deeper tone
The pops and crackles aspect is getting better and better.
Absolutely delighted with my car.
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ok so this is interesting...UK has the PF build code but US builds do not, yet AMG reps allude to a single exhaust across all markets...do we think there is no PF in the US market or that the factory tune is actually what's the same across all markets? If the latter, one can surmise that the existence of the PF does not have any bearing on the exhaust sound...?
PPF on build code
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I reached out to a few exhaust vendors about the face lifted model, some interesting info from Capristo below:
They offer the cat back exhaust with and without the particle filter, two notes
1. If you leave the OPF installed - no tune needed to code off any alarms
2. if you remove the OPF - you will need a tune to code of the alarms
I'm guessing this means its somewhere in the primary cats?
Link the capristo exhaust sound is here : https://capristoexhaust.com/product/...-catback-ces3/
They offer the cat back exhaust with and without the particle filter, two notes
1. If you leave the OPF installed - no tune needed to code off any alarms
2. if you remove the OPF - you will need a tune to code of the alarms
I'm guessing this means its somewhere in the primary cats?
Link the capristo exhaust sound is here : https://capristoexhaust.com/product/...-catback-ces3/
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I reached out to a few exhaust vendors about the face lifted model, some interesting info from Capristo below:
They offer the cat back exhaust with and without the particle filter, two notes
1. If you leave the OPF installed - no tune needed to code off any alarms
2. if you remove the OPF - you will need a tune to code of the alarms
I'm guessing this means its somewhere in the primary cats?
Link the capristo exhaust sound is here : https://capristoexhaust.com/product/...-catback-ces3/
They offer the cat back exhaust with and without the particle filter, two notes
1. If you leave the OPF installed - no tune needed to code off any alarms
2. if you remove the OPF - you will need a tune to code of the alarms
I'm guessing this means its somewhere in the primary cats?
Link the capristo exhaust sound is here : https://capristoexhaust.com/product/...-catback-ces3/
Has anyone actually confirmed or found the particle filter in the US cars? Capristo is saying they don't think the US cars have it yet (I need to check my build sheet)..
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Some reading on the PPF:
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=14317014
"Mercedes-Benz is the first manufacturer to opt for the large-scale use of particulate filters for petrol engines to further improve their environmental compatibility. After more than two years of positive experience in the field with the S 500, in 2017 further S-Class variants will be equipped with the new M 256 and M 176 petrol engines with this technology. The filter will then be gradually introduced in other new vehicle models, facelifted models and new engine generations, such as the M 264. After that, use of the particulate filter is also planned for the current model series."
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=14317014
"Mercedes-Benz is the first manufacturer to opt for the large-scale use of particulate filters for petrol engines to further improve their environmental compatibility. After more than two years of positive experience in the field with the S 500, in 2017 further S-Class variants will be equipped with the new M 256 and M 176 petrol engines with this technology. The filter will then be gradually introduced in other new vehicle models, facelifted models and new engine generations, such as the M 264. After that, use of the particulate filter is also planned for the current model series."
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Some reading on the PPF:
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=14317014
"Mercedes-Benz is the first manufacturer to opt for the large-scale use of particulate filters for petrol engines to further improve their environmental compatibility. After more than two years of positive experience in the field with the S 500, in 2017 further S-Class variants will be equipped with the new M 256 and M 176 petrol engines with this technology. The filter will then be gradually introduced in other new vehicle models, facelifted models and new engine generations, such as the M 264. After that, use of the particulate filter is also planned for the current model series."
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=14317014
"Mercedes-Benz is the first manufacturer to opt for the large-scale use of particulate filters for petrol engines to further improve their environmental compatibility. After more than two years of positive experience in the field with the S 500, in 2017 further S-Class variants will be equipped with the new M 256 and M 176 petrol engines with this technology. The filter will then be gradually introduced in other new vehicle models, facelifted models and new engine generations, such as the M 264. After that, use of the particulate filter is also planned for the current model series."
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To answer your question, I believe this was published in the fall (November) of 2016.
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This makes me feel so much more excited about taking delivery of my 2020 when it comes in. I was reading all these threads and posts and really was disappointed and not as excited as i was back in may when i placed the order.
Nice to see reassuring posts. Thank you
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I already have plans to sell it.
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You’re not “urinating on my bonfire”. I am (and we all are) lucky enough to be able to own one of these cars and i will enjoy it as much as i can. No point in crying about why the exhaust doesn’t crackle or pop. There are a ton of improvements on the facelift vs. the pre face lift. I was a bit disappointed at first but when seeing a facelift model and playing around with it, I’m happy with my decision to get a ‘20 over an 18
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I was thinking about the 6500 new parts in our facelift model. I bet 4000 are in the steering wheel and binnacle, both of which it seems can be retrofitted.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have the latest and greatest, it's just some things are greater than others. The biggest redeeming factor for me is the reduction in depreciation over a late low mileage pre-facelift.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have the latest and greatest, it's just some things are greater than others. The biggest redeeming factor for me is the reduction in depreciation over a late low mileage pre-facelift.
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I was thinking about the 6500 new parts in our facelift model. I bet 4000 are in the steering wheel and binnacle, both of which it seems can be retrofitted.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have the latest and greatest, it's just some things are greater than others. The biggest redeeming factor for me is the reduction in depreciation over a late low mileage pre-facelift.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have the latest and greatest, it's just some things are greater than others. The biggest redeeming factor for me is the reduction in depreciation over a late low mileage pre-facelift.
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Yes, I think a low mileage late pre-facelift will depreciate quite hard, despite still being relatively new. £49k/5k miles when I was looking, managed to get mine for £55k/4k miles, 63s, P+, so hopefully won't lose much if I offload it next spring.
