My tuning experience with this car. Get a real tuner!
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Seems to be the case and that is sketchy AF.
That’s Steve who left Weistec to start Dime and we all know how that went... now Yabeela stopped doing business with him. So PTG and Kirkland Hans are the next round of shell companies hiding his identify. Why not just do business as yourself? You’re immediately misrepresenting yourself and your company, even worse, purposefully.
Weistec posted this on another forum which seems to confirm.
https://www.boostaddict.com/showthre...-Rods&p=852121
That’s Steve who left Weistec to start Dime and we all know how that went... now Yabeela stopped doing business with him. So PTG and Kirkland Hans are the next round of shell companies hiding his identify. Why not just do business as yourself? You’re immediately misrepresenting yourself and your company, even worse, purposefully.
Weistec posted this on another forum which seems to confirm.
Weistec:
We have been sitting quiet for far too long and watching far too many people get screwed. We are posting the following information for the greater good of this community.
Steve Atneyel, dime racing, yabeela, premier tuning group (ptg), and Kirkland Hans
Many people already know the story about dime racing. Where they came from, what they stole, as well as how a lot of people got scammed and conned out of a lot of money.
What many don't know is that to keep selling parts that were made using designs/cad stolen from Weistec and likely to hide income from the people suing them for fraud, the people behind dime had to sell under other names/companies from "outside" the USA.
To do this, ptg was created with claims of being a German company. To sell the products, ptg partnered with yabeela, an actual shop in the middle east. For a while, yabeela passed off the products as their own design and manufacture. Not too long after, problems began to come to light. People paying for orders and getting extreme delays or never receiving the order. Deposits for new products that never actually got made. Some people bought and received forged engines using blocks that had to be welded back together and/or were assembled incredibly poorly. There are posts about that on another forum with a lot of detailed pictures.
Eventually, yabeela's name was burned which led to ptg selling more directly to customers. There are a handful of people that push the ptg products, but one name is of importance, and that is Kirkland Hans. A supposed German tuner with claims of record setting calibrations which many suspect are actually achieved using nitrous as an undisclosed modification. Others also believe that the calibrations he sells are copied from skilled tuners in the industry. If they see this and want to comment, they are free to do so.
Much like how ptg is a front from outside the USA for dime parts to be sold, Kirkland Hans is a fake "German" name for Steve Atneyel to sell tuning. As happened with the name dime racing, Steve Atneyel's name has long been burned in the industry forcing him to try to work under a different name. This has been going on for a while and it will not be surprising when a new set of fake names are made as the ptg and Kirkland Hans names will eventually be associated with the same problems people faced with dime and then again with yabeela.
We have been sitting quiet for far too long and watching far too many people get screwed. We are posting the following information for the greater good of this community.
Steve Atneyel, dime racing, yabeela, premier tuning group (ptg), and Kirkland Hans
Many people already know the story about dime racing. Where they came from, what they stole, as well as how a lot of people got scammed and conned out of a lot of money.
What many don't know is that to keep selling parts that were made using designs/cad stolen from Weistec and likely to hide income from the people suing them for fraud, the people behind dime had to sell under other names/companies from "outside" the USA.
To do this, ptg was created with claims of being a German company. To sell the products, ptg partnered with yabeela, an actual shop in the middle east. For a while, yabeela passed off the products as their own design and manufacture. Not too long after, problems began to come to light. People paying for orders and getting extreme delays or never receiving the order. Deposits for new products that never actually got made. Some people bought and received forged engines using blocks that had to be welded back together and/or were assembled incredibly poorly. There are posts about that on another forum with a lot of detailed pictures.
Eventually, yabeela's name was burned which led to ptg selling more directly to customers. There are a handful of people that push the ptg products, but one name is of importance, and that is Kirkland Hans. A supposed German tuner with claims of record setting calibrations which many suspect are actually achieved using nitrous as an undisclosed modification. Others also believe that the calibrations he sells are copied from skilled tuners in the industry. If they see this and want to comment, they are free to do so.
Much like how ptg is a front from outside the USA for dime parts to be sold, Kirkland Hans is a fake "German" name for Steve Atneyel to sell tuning. As happened with the name dime racing, Steve Atneyel's name has long been burned in the industry forcing him to try to work under a different name. This has been going on for a while and it will not be surprising when a new set of fake names are made as the ptg and Kirkland Hans names will eventually be associated with the same problems people faced with dime and then again with yabeela.
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This was covered years ago, but in case anyone needs a refresher on Steve...
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I have the tune and I can say equivocally my car is happy! Historical drama aside, the fact is that in any significant transaction you need to make sure you are covered. Never pay cash/wire transfer. Always verify what their deliverables are and make sure you have everything in writing. Most importantly make sure your CC/Bank has adequate safeguards that cover the transaction. I live by this motto and had no issues what so ever with Kirkland.
At the end of the day this is simple supply and demand as long as whoever is behind this company delivers and keeps their customers satisfied the demand will be remain for their goods. If/when their deliverables are missed so will the demand.
At the end of the day this is simple supply and demand as long as whoever is behind this company delivers and keeps their customers satisfied the demand will be remain for their goods. If/when their deliverables are missed so will the demand.
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Fwiw..
I I installed the modal works intake on my otherwise stock 19 c63s. From that point forward I also had crankcase ventilation codes in both banks as well as a detonation code. These were read on HP tuners as well as at the dealership. I have had the dealership clear the codes as of this week, and we'll see if they return. Mind you, there was never any cel. I scanned it with my HP tuner software and verified it with the dealer. In addition, it may be worth noting that there was only a one-time count for each of the codes. Perhaps the car was adjusting to the additional air provided from the intake, the time will tell if the codes return..
I I installed the modal works intake on my otherwise stock 19 c63s. From that point forward I also had crankcase ventilation codes in both banks as well as a detonation code. These were read on HP tuners as well as at the dealership. I have had the dealership clear the codes as of this week, and we'll see if they return. Mind you, there was never any cel. I scanned it with my HP tuner software and verified it with the dealer. In addition, it may be worth noting that there was only a one-time count for each of the codes. Perhaps the car was adjusting to the additional air provided from the intake, the time will tell if the codes return..
the best way is to retrofit E63 style M177 intake to your C63.
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That intake design is crap, the reason you get detonation code is because it is a hot air intake, especially at high RPM, you are sucking in all the hot airs in the bonnet, it looks like has a heat shield but it is poorly sealed against bonnet.
the best way is to retrofit E63 style M177 intake to your C63.
the best way is to retrofit E63 style M177 intake to your C63.
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Ok so long story short I picked up a 2017 c63s coupe with under 20k miles on it. Within 5 days of ownership and before I even had the registration I had oetuning put a tune on my handheld I had from them from my other car.
At first the car felt good and had a nice mid range grunt but fell hard on its face after 5k rpms. Took it to the track on a 55 degree day and trapped 115? I was like wtf is wrong with my car. They told me the car needs intakes and that is why its not pulling up top end. So I ordered modal works intakes and ran there race gas map and used ms109 and hit the track again. The car did the same exact thing. Trapped 114 then 116 and my best run was 117. A bone stock regular c63 non s was trapping 117 all night.
I was pissed and at the same time was reading about cars running slow with low voltage, at that time my xentry broke and could not scan the car so I dropped another 800 to get a new setup.
Car had crank case ventilation codes and was in limp mode. Put the car stock and took it to dealer twice and they said the car is perfect and is a beast on test drive. Funny part was the stock file ft faster up top than his tunned file.
No codes on stock file and on there tune my boost gage would not hit full boost and they said that is normal. at this point i just spent like 65k on this car and my old c63 na was faster and i didn't even want the car anymore lol..
Bring you up to date as I decided to try another tuner from Germany and he remote tuned my car with his inhouse software(no hand held and used obd dongle) and the car is insane.. no more crankcase codes and the car gets wheel hop in 3rd gear at 3500 rpms now in 75 degree weather.. i cant even describe how much better my car is running!
The tuner is kirklandhans and he does the cpc and tcu tunes aswell.
At first the car felt good and had a nice mid range grunt but fell hard on its face after 5k rpms. Took it to the track on a 55 degree day and trapped 115? I was like wtf is wrong with my car. They told me the car needs intakes and that is why its not pulling up top end. So I ordered modal works intakes and ran there race gas map and used ms109 and hit the track again. The car did the same exact thing. Trapped 114 then 116 and my best run was 117. A bone stock regular c63 non s was trapping 117 all night.
I was pissed and at the same time was reading about cars running slow with low voltage, at that time my xentry broke and could not scan the car so I dropped another 800 to get a new setup.
Car had crank case ventilation codes and was in limp mode. Put the car stock and took it to dealer twice and they said the car is perfect and is a beast on test drive. Funny part was the stock file ft faster up top than his tunned file.
No codes on stock file and on there tune my boost gage would not hit full boost and they said that is normal. at this point i just spent like 65k on this car and my old c63 na was faster and i didn't even want the car anymore lol..
Bring you up to date as I decided to try another tuner from Germany and he remote tuned my car with his inhouse software(no hand held and used obd dongle) and the car is insane.. no more crankcase codes and the car gets wheel hop in 3rd gear at 3500 rpms now in 75 degree weather.. i cant even describe how much better my car is running!
The tuner is kirklandhans and he does the cpc and tcu tunes aswell.
I talked to the company a couple times and they suggested I do fresh plugs so I did new ones, even though I only had like 24k miles at that point or so. Ran the tune for about 6 months but was pretty confident it wasn't as fast as it should be. Finally tested it on dragy and ran mid 9's 60-130, and then raced a friends bone stock c63 (which dyno'd within 2 hp of me the same day on same dyno when both stock) and I was only ahead of him enough that my rear bumper was about at his front bumper. Some races were even closer. I ended up contacting the owner directly who was nice enough and helpful, had me try another file, but in the end blamed it on the car having mechanical issues and gave me a full refund.
I'm not going to name any names as I know of other cars running the same tune in some of my c63 IG groups and these people seem to be happy with it/run decent times. They also had no problem refunding me when the car was clearly not running well on the tune. So no problems with them personally.
So back when this thread came up I was originally really interested because I wanted one of the older firmwares with more of the factory pops and bangs without having to run an obnoxious burble tune. I contacted a handful of guys running kirklands tune and everyone had nothing but good things to say, one guy on 91 octane had numerous videos of him beating other cars I know are fast, etc. So when it came time to return the old tune/get a refund I contacted kirkland about a firmware change and tune. Instantly the car feels night and day different, the car rolls out in every gear hard, has no traction until like 70mph or so, AND has a more character with this firmware he changed too as well (it sounds like those old firmwares we all wanted to switch to a couple years back). Throttle response is super crisp again, which is a big thing for me after it felt so sluggish for the last 6 moths. The whole time kirkland was pretty quick to answer questions at any time of the day, spent lots of time answering some more technical questions that I know other tuners don't want to spend the time discussing, over nighted a cord and dongle to hook up the car to my lap top and had me up and running pretty quick. I did a second gear pull with that same friend today, he hooked, I absolutely blew off second gear, bogged into third because of wheel spin/traction control cutting out just before the shift and still walked him by a bunch of cars. I'll have the car on the dyno in coming weeks and will do some 60-130 pulls but there is no doubt that it's right in the ballpark of where I should be , the car rips.
I just wanted to add in my 2 cents on my experience as it's similar to the original posters and now that I've been running it a few weeks, I'm confident with how much power it's making. Finally happy to be driving around in a car that I'm confident is making stage 2 power levels now.
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So I pretty much had a similar experience. I have a 2017 c63 that had just over 20k miles when I did tune and DP. I picked a pretty popular tuner for my stage two tune and after loading it, I found the car had pretty bad throttle response and pulled a bit more up top but second and third gear felt horrible about stock, even in freezing temperatures I couldn't spin in second gear. From a stop if i stomped on it in first, it'd just fall on it's face and not spin usually either.
I talked to the company a couple times and they suggested I do fresh plugs so I did new ones, even though I only had like 24k miles at that point or so. Ran the tune for about 6 months but was pretty confident it wasn't as fast as it should be. Finally tested it on dragy and ran mid 9's 60-130, and then raced a friends bone stock c63 (which dyno'd within 2 hp of me the same day on same dyno when both stock) and I was only ahead of him enough that my rear bumper was about at his front bumper. Some races were even closer. I ended up contacting the owner directly who was nice enough and helpful, had me try another file, but in the end blamed it on the car having mechanical issues and gave me a full refund.
I'm not going to name any names as I know of other cars running the same tune in some of my c63 IG groups and these people seem to be happy with it/run decent times. They also had no problem refunding me when the car was clearly not running well on the tune. So no problems with them personally.
So back when this thread came up I was originally really interested because I wanted one of the older firmwares with more of the factory pops and bangs without having to run an obnoxious burble tune. I contacted a handful of guys running kirklands tune and everyone had nothing but good things to say, one guy on 91 octane had numerous videos of him beating other cars I know are fast, etc. So when it came time to return the old tune/get a refund I contacted kirkland about a firmware change and tune. Instantly the car feels night and day different, the car rolls out in every gear hard, has no traction until like 70mph or so, AND has a more character with this firmware he changed too as well (it sounds like those old firmwares we all wanted to switch to a couple years back). Throttle response is super crisp again, which is a big thing for me after it felt so sluggish for the last 6 moths. The whole time kirkland was pretty quick to answer questions at any time of the day, spent lots of time answering some more technical questions that I know other tuners don't want to spend the time discussing, over nighted a cord and dongle to hook up the car to my lap top and had me up and running pretty quick. I did a second gear pull with that same friend today, he hooked, I absolutely blew off second gear, bogged into third because of wheel spin/traction control cutting out just before the shift and still walked him by a bunch of cars. I'll have the car on the dyno in coming weeks and will do some 60-130 pulls but there is no doubt that it's right in the ballpark of where I should be , the car rips.
I just wanted to add in my 2 cents on my experience as it's similar to the original posters and now that I've been running it a few weeks, I'm confident with how much power it's making. Finally happy to be driving around in a car that I'm confident is making stage 2 power levels now.
I talked to the company a couple times and they suggested I do fresh plugs so I did new ones, even though I only had like 24k miles at that point or so. Ran the tune for about 6 months but was pretty confident it wasn't as fast as it should be. Finally tested it on dragy and ran mid 9's 60-130, and then raced a friends bone stock c63 (which dyno'd within 2 hp of me the same day on same dyno when both stock) and I was only ahead of him enough that my rear bumper was about at his front bumper. Some races were even closer. I ended up contacting the owner directly who was nice enough and helpful, had me try another file, but in the end blamed it on the car having mechanical issues and gave me a full refund.
I'm not going to name any names as I know of other cars running the same tune in some of my c63 IG groups and these people seem to be happy with it/run decent times. They also had no problem refunding me when the car was clearly not running well on the tune. So no problems with them personally.
So back when this thread came up I was originally really interested because I wanted one of the older firmwares with more of the factory pops and bangs without having to run an obnoxious burble tune. I contacted a handful of guys running kirklands tune and everyone had nothing but good things to say, one guy on 91 octane had numerous videos of him beating other cars I know are fast, etc. So when it came time to return the old tune/get a refund I contacted kirkland about a firmware change and tune. Instantly the car feels night and day different, the car rolls out in every gear hard, has no traction until like 70mph or so, AND has a more character with this firmware he changed too as well (it sounds like those old firmwares we all wanted to switch to a couple years back). Throttle response is super crisp again, which is a big thing for me after it felt so sluggish for the last 6 moths. The whole time kirkland was pretty quick to answer questions at any time of the day, spent lots of time answering some more technical questions that I know other tuners don't want to spend the time discussing, over nighted a cord and dongle to hook up the car to my lap top and had me up and running pretty quick. I did a second gear pull with that same friend today, he hooked, I absolutely blew off second gear, bogged into third because of wheel spin/traction control cutting out just before the shift and still walked him by a bunch of cars. I'll have the car on the dyno in coming weeks and will do some 60-130 pulls but there is no doubt that it's right in the ballpark of where I should be , the car rips.
I just wanted to add in my 2 cents on my experience as it's similar to the original posters and now that I've been running it a few weeks, I'm confident with how much power it's making. Finally happy to be driving around in a car that I'm confident is making stage 2 power levels now.
And yea I have zero traction in first or second gear now and depending on temps can blow the doors off of 3rd gear also.
Last edited by skratch77; Mar 11, 2021 at 03:15 PM.
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that sounds similar to me, i'm only on a 91 tune and any speed in second gear is useless, third seems to hook alright. It's fairly cold here in Vancouver still, hoping the ps4s' will hook a bit better in second when it warms up.
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So I pretty much had a similar experience. I have a 2017 c63 that had just over 20k miles when I did tune and DP. I picked a pretty popular tuner for my stage two tune and after loading it, I found the car had pretty bad throttle response and pulled a bit more up top but second and third gear felt horrible about stock, even in freezing temperatures I couldn't spin in second gear. From a stop if i stomped on it in first, it'd just fall on it's face and not spin usually either.
I talked to the company a couple times and they suggested I do fresh plugs so I did new ones, even though I only had like 24k miles at that point or so. Ran the tune for about 6 months but was pretty confident it wasn't as fast as it should be. Finally tested it on dragy and ran mid 9's 60-130, and then raced a friends bone stock c63 (which dyno'd within 2 hp of me the same day on same dyno when both stock) and I was only ahead of him enough that my rear bumper was about at his front bumper. Some races were even closer. I ended up contacting the owner directly who was nice enough and helpful, had me try another file, but in the end blamed it on the car having mechanical issues and gave me a full refund.
I'm not going to name any names as I know of other cars running the same tune in some of my c63 IG groups and these people seem to be happy with it/run decent times. They also had no problem refunding me when the car was clearly not running well on the tune. So no problems with them personally.
So back when this thread came up I was originally really interested because I wanted one of the older firmwares with more of the factory pops and bangs without having to run an obnoxious burble tune. I contacted a handful of guys running kirklands tune and everyone had nothing but good things to say, one guy on 91 octane had numerous videos of him beating other cars I know are fast, etc. So when it came time to return the old tune/get a refund I contacted kirkland about a firmware change and tune. Instantly the car feels night and day different, the car rolls out in every gear hard, has no traction until like 70mph or so, AND has a more character with this firmware he changed too as well (it sounds like those old firmwares we all wanted to switch to a couple years back). Throttle response is super crisp again, which is a big thing for me after it felt so sluggish for the last 6 moths. The whole time kirkland was pretty quick to answer questions at any time of the day, spent lots of time answering some more technical questions that I know other tuners don't want to spend the time discussing, over nighted a cord and dongle to hook up the car to my lap top and had me up and running pretty quick. I did a second gear pull with that same friend today, he hooked, I absolutely blew off second gear, bogged into third because of wheel spin/traction control cutting out just before the shift and still walked him by a bunch of cars. I'll have the car on the dyno in coming weeks and will do some 60-130 pulls but there is no doubt that it's right in the ballpark of where I should be , the car rips.
I just wanted to add in my 2 cents on my experience as it's similar to the original posters and now that I've been running it a few weeks, I'm confident with how much power it's making. Finally happy to be driving around in a car that I'm confident is making stage 2 power levels now.
I talked to the company a couple times and they suggested I do fresh plugs so I did new ones, even though I only had like 24k miles at that point or so. Ran the tune for about 6 months but was pretty confident it wasn't as fast as it should be. Finally tested it on dragy and ran mid 9's 60-130, and then raced a friends bone stock c63 (which dyno'd within 2 hp of me the same day on same dyno when both stock) and I was only ahead of him enough that my rear bumper was about at his front bumper. Some races were even closer. I ended up contacting the owner directly who was nice enough and helpful, had me try another file, but in the end blamed it on the car having mechanical issues and gave me a full refund.
I'm not going to name any names as I know of other cars running the same tune in some of my c63 IG groups and these people seem to be happy with it/run decent times. They also had no problem refunding me when the car was clearly not running well on the tune. So no problems with them personally.
So back when this thread came up I was originally really interested because I wanted one of the older firmwares with more of the factory pops and bangs without having to run an obnoxious burble tune. I contacted a handful of guys running kirklands tune and everyone had nothing but good things to say, one guy on 91 octane had numerous videos of him beating other cars I know are fast, etc. So when it came time to return the old tune/get a refund I contacted kirkland about a firmware change and tune. Instantly the car feels night and day different, the car rolls out in every gear hard, has no traction until like 70mph or so, AND has a more character with this firmware he changed too as well (it sounds like those old firmwares we all wanted to switch to a couple years back). Throttle response is super crisp again, which is a big thing for me after it felt so sluggish for the last 6 moths. The whole time kirkland was pretty quick to answer questions at any time of the day, spent lots of time answering some more technical questions that I know other tuners don't want to spend the time discussing, over nighted a cord and dongle to hook up the car to my lap top and had me up and running pretty quick. I did a second gear pull with that same friend today, he hooked, I absolutely blew off second gear, bogged into third because of wheel spin/traction control cutting out just before the shift and still walked him by a bunch of cars. I'll have the car on the dyno in coming weeks and will do some 60-130 pulls but there is no doubt that it's right in the ballpark of where I should be , the car rips.
I just wanted to add in my 2 cents on my experience as it's similar to the original posters and now that I've been running it a few weeks, I'm confident with how much power it's making. Finally happy to be driving around in a car that I'm confident is making stage 2 power levels now.
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Quick video of 3rd gear having no traction. I have 305 30 20s waiting to get thrown on but this is on oem 20s and 55 degrees out. The car destroys 1st and 2nd gear and can't even push 3rd gear.
I have no idea why some want a tcu tune when you can't put down the power.
I have no idea why some want a tcu tune when you can't put down the power.
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skratch, this is with the kirklandhans tune? I am considering tuning my 2018 c63 non-s but am concerned about traction. Seems that not hooking even in 3rd gear can be quite annoying. Might be better to not tune this car? Would you recommend it based on your experience? I understand the 2019 S models might be better at putting the power down due to the ediff and 9 stage traction control. Maybe I should have bought an S. Anyway would appreciate your thoughts.
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skratch, this is with the kirklandhans tune? I am considering tuning my 2018 c63 non-s but am concerned about traction. Seems that not hooking even in 3rd gear can be quite annoying. Might be better to not tune this car? Would you recommend it based on your experience? I understand the 2019 S models might be better at putting the power down due to the ediff and 9 stage traction control. Maybe I should have bought an S. Anyway would appreciate your thoughts.
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Been contemplating a tune for over a year now but ultimately decided against one because even with a 275/305 combo, the car still has traction issues on stock power so i dont know how its even gonna handle that extra power with a tune
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skratch, this is with the kirklandhans tune? I am considering tuning my 2018 c63 non-s but am concerned about traction. Seems that not hooking even in 3rd gear can be quite annoying. Might be better to not tune this car? Would you recommend it based on your experience? I understand the 2019 S models might be better at putting the power down due to the ediff and 9 stage traction control. Maybe I should have bought an S. Anyway would appreciate your thoughts.
For example when I am in 3rd or 4th and slam on the gas, there's a quick jump but then there's small turbo lag and then turbo starts kicking in immensely, all in the same gear then it finally shifts up. I was expecting the gear to go down to ride the high revs before upshifting. My Charger ScatPack used to do that.
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I just went stage 2 tune last week from PTG. I have catless downpipes and Zac air intakes. I'm still learning the power curve but more than likely I will need a TCU tune down the road. All that power + the transmission software doesn't really know when to properly shift, doubt tires will help much.
For example when I am in 3rd or 4th and slam on the gas, there's a quick jump but then there's small turbo lag and then turbo starts kicking in immensely.
For example when I am in 3rd or 4th and slam on the gas, there's a quick jump but then there's small turbo lag and then turbo starts kicking in immensely.
