Sell C63 S for 718 GTS 4.0L?
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Sell C63 S for 718 GTS 4.0L?
Contemplating trading in the C63 for a new GTS w/ the 4.0L flat six. Anyone driven it (or the Boxster or the GT4 version)? I don't think I want to go GT4 just due to the firmness of the suspension. I don't do many track days, and doubtful I'd make use of the GT4's upgrades serving only as a nice weather daily driver. I work remotely 100%, so I won't be commuting in it for the forseeable future (but does that maybe push me to the GT4?). Also have a truck and the wife's Audi for winter/family trips. The GT4 has a wait list; not sure how long. I don't think the GTS does.
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Contemplating trading in the C63 for a new GTS w/ the 4.0L flat six. Anyone driven it (or the Boxster or the GT4 version)? I don't think I want to go GT4 just due to the firmness of the suspension. I don't do many track days, and doubtful I'd make use of the GT4's upgrades serving only as a nice weather daily driver. I work remotely 100%, so I won't be commuting in it for the forseeable future (but does that maybe push me to the GT4?). Also have a truck and the wife's Audi for winter/family trips. The GT4 has a wait list; not sure how long. I don't think the GTS does.
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I haven't driven it, but very intrigued. The gearing is only an issue with the manual gearbox. It's an old box and even Porsche admitted they made a mistake with it, but it was not feasible to redesign it. The PDK has much better gearing. I love NA engines, especially higher revving ones, but for daily driving they tend to be sluggish. You have to have the opportunity to wind them out. Peak torque is at 5500 rpm in the GTS with PDK, 5000 rpm with the manual, so below that not much is happening. That's probably the main complaint about NA engines. I had a 2013 RS5 before the C63 with its sweat 8500 rpm V8, but that engine made peak torque at 4000 rpm, so it had this nice 4-4.5k wide powerband. I still miss it when in the canyons, but there is no denying that the C63 just gets going faster and easier on normal roads. Still very much love the linear power delivery of an NA engine, their free revving nature and especially the sharp throttle response, but they are definitely a lot more fun to drive if you have the room to wind them out.
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I've read this in several reviews as well. The thing is, as much as I'm not one of those "any transmission other than a manual is for wimps" guys, I do miss driving stick. And I personally feel like if I'm going to get a "sports car", it has to be manual. I think I need to drive one; I've only driven a Boxster and it was PDK. If it's truly as bad for everyday driving as I've heard, the 718 may be off the table for now. Which is too bad, because by the time they get around to updating the manual gearbox, I'm doubtful they'll still be offering the 4.0L as well...
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Maybe not a good comparison but I had a 2016 Cayman GTS with PDK. Great handling, beautiful car but until you get the revs to around 3,500 rpm's, it was kind of slow and not engaging. IMO, people can say what they want about a NA engine, my experiences with a 2013 Boxster PDK, 2006 911 Cab with tiptronic, 2013 911Cab PDK, were that they all were great cars but off the line, all were sluggish. I purchased a 2017 911S PDK coupe and found it to be the best Porsche I owned. The twin turbos made it a joy to drive. It was a rocket off the line, great handling, and all around spirited car to drive.
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Maybe not a good comparison but I had a 2016 Cayman GTS with PDK. Great handling, beautiful car but until you get the revs to around 3,500 rpm's, it was kind of slow and not engaging. IMO, people can say what they want about a NA engine, my experiences with a 2013 Boxster PDK, 2006 911 Cab with tiptronic, 2013 911Cab PDK, were that they all were great cars but off the line, all were sluggish. I purchased a 2017 911S PDK coupe and found it to be the best Porsche I owned. The twin turbos made it a joy to drive. It was a rocket off the line, great handling, and all around spirited car to drive.
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