Has anyone swapped to a Cayman? Sure, the 911 is the next logical step up, but the Cayman S/GTS/GT4 are the closer competitor. If you are just highway driving/grocery getting, then the 911 is a great step up, but I am looking at a car to enjoy on the track and the current Cayman seems to be the better option.

I am enjoying running my C63S on the track more and more, but consumables (tires, weight) are becoming frustrating given that this is not an ideal track vehicle (price is not the issue, just changing it frequently). My wife keeps telling me just to put a deposit on a GTS/GT4 and be done with it, but giving up the V8 for every day enjoyment is a tough pill to swallow. Living in Midwest, 1 track event per month, I get about 5-6 track days, so it does not seem worth it for that reason alone. Perhaps a side track car for the difference in price of trading in the C63S for Porsche.

 

I went from a 911 Cab to a Cayman GTS (preowned) The car was great but there was such a loud exhaust drone at around 2,500 RPM's on the highway, I sold the car for a Macan Turbo. The Macan was great but I missed the real sports car ride so I bought a 2017 Porsche 911S. Sold it and ordered a 2021 C63s Cab.

 

I sold my 992 S for my current C63S Brabus 600. The Mercedes is a far better car. More fun, too.

 

I changed from C63s to 911 992. Not like the previous poster I can’t say the AMG is better or more fun - just two very different cars. I enjoy the 911 a lot, much faster and tighter around corners, a sports car designed from ground up and it shows. Changed exhaust, suspension, brakes and some lips and spoilers so far to make it my own.

 

Best of both worlds…

 

Beautiful spec and great mods! I made a similar transition:



Went from my C63S to a F-Type SVR and now to a GT3. The driving dynamics, steering feel, handling/agility, transmission is just a completely different class. I used to roll my eyes at cliche magazine reviews talking about feeling "connected with the car" and the car being "an extension of you." Until I drove the GT3. Like you said, a 911 is designed from the ground up to be a sports car and for me it really highlighted the limitations of a platform like a C63/F8X/RS5.

This was my experience as well and it shows the benefits of a dedicated sports car platform. The GT3 runs circles around my C63S in handling yet it also soaks up bumps better with a much less flinty ride. It's not quite as smooth as my SVR was but it's close - and that was a proper grand tourer.

 

Beautiful 991 GT3 you got! I will not even try to claim my 992 Carrera is even close in handling as the GT3's but what you describe is what is also my experience - directional speaking. I loved my C63s, I really did and still do (w/o having it)....but its an upgraded family sedan/coupe. I know, I know - lots of upgrades aka more than a Lexus F-sport, BMW M-Sport, or even a C43/53 but still its bones and heritage are a family sedan/coupe just like BMW M Series, Lexus F Series etc. Now, the 911 series even within sports cars has its own following - rear engine! No mid-engine either like the GT4 or 718 series. I had to get used how light footed the front is yet how planted the rear goes around corners. I did add a Techart suspension to make it even a bit stiffer, lower, even harder cornering, Its just a different experience - I have much less power than my tuned C63s yet I am much quicker even in the straight line 0-60 (mid 3's) and that is before there is a single corner to attack. I find myself standing on the gas pedal where I often lifted my foot with the C63s in fear I will loose traction and control. Now, to all C63s owners - love that car, its beautiful, its powerful, its a great car regardless of how it compares to other cars.

 

At this point I am pretty heavily considering replacing my w205 coupe with a 911, but I cant decide how much I am willing to spend and therefore which 911 to go for. Looking from the outside I love 997s over the newer stuff personally but obviously would miss the tech and general improvements the newer models have. I love gt3s above the rest like any enthusiast would but of course you gotta pay to play in one of those and the 997s are fairly rare. I'm worried just going for a C2S or similar may make me miss the power of the V8, and I dont think I want a turbocharged model since i'm hungry for something that revs. I'm not really in a rush but of course keeping an eye on the prices makes me feel some pressure to make the move if I'm going to, Back when I got my 560SL I was also looking at 964s, and now those are pretty much out of reach.

 

Go for it. I just picked the latest model as it the most improvements and looks and drives sweet. The 992 C2S will not disappoint - not all about horse power. It's quick, still nimble. The small turbos get rid of that low end torque gap the NA's have. And they are still the most happy above 5kRPM. Also, if you must, they have solid tunes that add another chunk. My Porsche dealer even offers a tune and warrants the car. If you want raw sports experience - get a cayman GTS or even GT4. They have the 4l NA engine!! GTS is just setup and tuned differently but same fun high rev NA...and comes with all more modern goodies.

 

To continue my previous point, I said specifically that my Brabus 600 C63S is a better car than my 992 C2S; not that a C63 is a better sports car than a 992, that would be silly. (And of course a GT3 is a sportier ride and more capable on a track than a stock C63S for a lot less money, but whether it’s a more enjoyable car on public roads is debatable)

I made the comparison between the two specific cars because the cars as specced are pretty much exactly the same price. And in this specific comparison, the Brabus is a better car: more fun exiting bends at all road speeds, more feel through the chassis on roundabouts and fast curves, much faster, quieter, and much more space.

the 992 C2S wins on agility, tight road handling (not the same as enjoyment, this is a clinical car), looks, overall design, brakes (though both pretty good) and would win on a track if that’s interesting.

I’m a much bigger 911 fanboy than AMG collector, having so far owned 12 911s and two C63s.I’ve also driven pretty much every production 911 since the late 90s as we work closely with Porsche. But if you have the funds to spend on either of these two specific cars, the Brabus is a way better car than the 992C2S, and much more fun.

My pick of the 992 range for the road FWIW is the 7 speed manual GTS RWD. A true 911 and a real hoot for a committed driver on the right roads. Very special.

 

i did recently make this change. I did not keep the c63 because i have a space issue, and don’t have time to drive 3 cars (the other one being my winter suv as i live in toronto). I did deliberate, for over 2 weeks, a lot about this because i love the c63s. I wish i could have kept it but space and a few other issues meant i needed to get rid of it, plus dealer was giving me, in my opinion, a good price. So having said that, let’s get into it. We all know why the c63 is great. So let me add my thought for why i like the 992 c4s cab. I really like exhaust and engine noises, and there’s a symphony behind me in the 992. The c63s had it, but because of the regulations and other things, it was quite faint and hard to really hear it. Top down was best, but still. The prev gen c63 was really where the sound was for me. The 992 is so immersive that i turn down the music and just enjoy the engine noise. And during phone calls, i need to turn off the sport exhaust button. It doesn’t have the throaty rumble, the beastly growls of the affalterbach v8. I do miss that, but it has a really sweet tone, nice little barks and rasps, and many pops and crackles, which unfortunately the c63s i had never really did. I was told it’s because of the EU regulations/Particulate filter. So, on the point of engine sound in the interior, it’s so much fun to hear than my 63. We, as fans of the amg 63, have always lauded the fact that it’s emotion and the thrill by sound and speed to be the complete package. In other words, if we aren’t the fastest, that doesn’t matter, it’s the enjoyment of getting to 100km/h. I feel the 992 delivers on this aspect. Heck, it delivers going 0-60km/h lol.

outside of that. The infotainment system is very good, the interior seating and all that very good, and finally it’s shorter and feels more compact when you drive it. This is my first rear engine drive and i’m surprised how much it sticks to the road.

final conclusion. I feel the.992, for me anyway, is much better than the 63. To the point that i’m sure if it was still in my garage i’d rarely drive it when i have the 992 as an option.

Please note that I’m not putting down the 63 line or mercs. I started with a cla 45, went to 43, and then finally 63. I really enjoyed the last one the most, but enjoyed them all. I won’t rule out ever buying another merc, but for me this 992 is so great so far.

Thanks for reading.

 

Short answer. PDK is amazing. I can’t believe how well it anticipates responses. Its like driving a manual where your co-driver is running the manual but has a link to your head (brain = intentions) and foot to know what you are trying to do. I’m serious. It’s flat out amazing. The accolades this transmission has gotten are well deserved. If you change the modes, the PDK will react in a more ‘raw’ manner. There’s a lot of things to criticize about porsche’s PDK, but i don’t think “too smoothly” is one of them. Let’s consider the opposite - ‘it shifts too rough for a performance car’. I mean we have to settle. Is too smooth for a performance car what we are looking for? Or is it too rough? Or maybe a middle - “it shifts right in the middle of rough and smooth’. The boys at zuffenhousen would be scratching their heads for days on that one…

 

Thank you for posting this it's made me want PDK haha may I ask did you have the C63S Coupe or saloon?

 

I had the 2020 c63s cab.

from your profile my 63 was similar. I had the designo magno white (cashmere). Amazing color for that car. Blacked out the grill and badges. Looked sick. The magno matte paints are a different. Door dings in grocery store parking lots cost $2k to fix. I had 2. Cant buff anything out. The problem is not with Mercedes, this is a more systemic problem, i think a lot of us have experienced. Some of us, for practical health reasons, and some of us for trying to protect our cars, will park far away from wherever we’re to go to because in these areas usually have no cars parked In close proximity. I found it astounding that whenever I come back, there’s always some vehicle parked right beside me when there are scads of parking spots around. I don’t understand why these people do this it’s very irritating and by the way, this is how one of the two dings happened on my door. this lady parked her car and her son was getting out on a windy day and he couldn’t catch the door in time in the wind, picked it and boom right into my door. Anyway, getting back to the point. Nice color. Lol