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I was told by the shop to double check because the actual OE part for the brakes is 2314211812 and that isn't listed in the description of OE numbers. The description also says retro fit so I'm guessing it will work, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
That will upgrade your front rotors to a floating rotor. It looks to be the right one for the C63S based on the FCP Euro listing noting it is for the C63S. I did a similar upgrade for my C63 (non-S), but with the appropriately sized rotors for my application and everything fit perfectly fine.
Yes, this fits the C63S. I have this kit on my 2019. Second set already, actually. But as said above, these are not the same rotors that came from the factory. These are the C63 Black Series rotors. They are an upgrade over the stock rotors. The stock rotors are semi floating. These are full floating.
Did you have to change to any other hardware to use these floating rotors? Do they need a specific pad, or will any C63s pad work?
Have you noticed much difference vs the stock rotors, either positive or negative? I've had performance pads on cars before and had terrible squealing and definitely don't want that on my C63S
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Good post
Originally Posted by superswiss
Yes, this fits the C63S. I have this kit on my 2019. Second set already, actually. But as said above, these are not the same rotors that came from the factory. These are the C63 Black Series rotors. They are an upgrade over the stock rotors. The stock rotors are semi floating. These are full floating.
First pic I've seen of the Black Series floating upgrade on a 205 thanks Superswiss those look really good and this is a very helpful post for those wanting to upgrade the fronts. You've done two front and rear brake changes since 2019 man? How many miles did you get out of them if you don't mind me asking.
PS: Could you tell us what rears you're using with these Black Series fronts? Just the Zimmerman C63 S rears?
Yes, this fits the C63S. I have this kit on my 2019. Second set already, actually. But as said above, these are not the same rotors that came from the factory. These are the C63 Black Series rotors. They are an upgrade over the stock rotors. The stock rotors are semi floating. These are full floating.
Ok awesome thank you! Just wanted to make sure. I figured they would, but the non listed part # just caught my guy's eye so verifying. Your car looks great, love black on black
First pic I've seen of the Black Series floating upgrade on a 205 thanks Superswiss those look really good and this is a very helpful post for those wanting to upgrade the fronts. You've done two front and rear brake changes since 2019 man? How many miles did you get out of them if you don't mind me asking.
PS: Could you tell us what rears you're using with these Black Series fronts? Just the Zimmerman C63 S rears?
I been looking for recommendations esp. for rear rotors and brakes. I see FCP has a Rear Brake Kit that includes Zimmermann rotors, Genuine Mercedes brake pads and Bowa wear sensor for $649.82. They also have listed the Zimmermann rear rotors for $ 96.89 each compared to Genuine Mercedes rotors for $290.99 each. Is the Genuine Mercedes rear rotors a better quality than the Zimmermann rear rotors? As for the rear brake pads: The Genuine Mercedes rear brake pads are listed for $452.99. So just thinking of ordering the Genuine Mercedes rotors along with the Genuine Mercedes rear brakes pads.
As you can see by photos the rear rotors hats have taken on ugly rust. Probable from winter salt. The MB dealership will not cover under warranty as they say it does not effect braking. So the plan is to order new rear rotors and brakes and before having them installed have the rotor hat area Powder Coated with a color as close as possible to same color are the rotor hats. Any other suggestion will be helpful. The Zimmermann rotors are zinc coated but believe these will help prevent some rust but not all.
No coming from ///M cars... i like the bigger drilled discs much beter in the looks department... thats why im having my own discs made... like this... but ill be using small spacer ( to space out the caliper and will be using custom 405x36 discs..
No coming from ///M cars... i like the bigger drilled discs much beter in the looks department... thats why im having my own discs made... like this... but ill be using small spacer ( to space out the caliper and will be using custom 405x36 discs..
What M did you have? I had an M3 and RS3 before this as summer daily drivers and can't say I noticed a huge difference in the look of the brakes. However to each their own. The ones you posted look good!
What M did you have? I had an M3 and RS3 before this as summer daily drivers and can't say I noticed a huge difference in the look of the brakes. However to each their own. The ones you posted look good!
Ive had over 8 ///M car.s.. from Sced M3 to M5 V10
I been looking for recommendations esp. for rear rotors and brakes. I see FCP has a Rear Brake Kit that includes Zimmermann rotors, Genuine Mercedes brake pads and Bowa wear sensor for $649.82. They also have listed the Zimmermann rear rotors for $ 96.89 each compared to Genuine Mercedes rotors for $290.99 each. Is the Genuine Mercedes rear rotors a better quality than the Zimmermann rear rotors? As for the rear brake pads: The Genuine Mercedes rear brake pads are listed for $452.99. So just thinking of ordering the Genuine Mercedes rotors along with the Genuine Mercedes rear brakes pads.
As you can see by photos the rear rotors hats have taken on ugly rust. Probable from winter salt. The MB dealership will not cover under warranty as they say it does not effect braking. So the plan is to order new rear rotors and brakes and before having them installed have the rotor hat area Powder Coated with a color as close as possible to same color are the rotor hats. Any other suggestion will be helpful. The Zimmermann rotors are zinc coated but believe these will help prevent some rust but not all.
Im on Zimmermans... and if you ugly rust... just hammerite it
Did you have to change to any other hardware to use these floating rotors? Do they need a specific pad, or will any C63s pad work?
Have you noticed much difference vs the stock rotors, either positive or negative? I've had performance pads on cars before and had terrible squealing and definitely don't want that on my C63S
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No other hardware needs to be changed. These are a direct replacement. I stayed with the OE pads as included in the kit. The pads are great in my opinion. The full floating rotors made the brakes feel more consistent and better to modulate. The OE brakes are a bit grabby at lower speeds. I can stop smoother with these and DISTRONIC also drives smoother. In the canyons these are great, too. Once they are up to temp they stop phenomenally. Not that the stock brakes stopped poorly, but as said, these just feel more consistent. The only time my brakes squeal is when the pads are worn, otherwise they are pretty silent.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_c63s
First pic I've seen of the Black Series floating upgrade on a 205 thanks Superswiss those look really good and this is a very helpful post for those wanting to upgrade the fronts. You've done two front and rear brake changes since 2019 man? How many miles did you get out of them if you don't mind me asking.
PS: Could you tell us what rears you're using with these Black Series fronts? Just the Zimmerman C63 S rears?
Yes, I did two full changes in the front, and two pad changes in the rear and one rotor change. The original rear rotors lasted for two sets although they had a pretty pronounced lip at the end. I'm at ~32k miles, so I got about ~16k miles out of a set. I got the brake warning light, but think it was only the rear, because they go first, but since FCP has lifetime replacement I just did front + rear at the same time. The fronts probably would have lasted another 3k miles like they did before. I drive this thing pretty hard every chance I get.
Yes, I went with FCP's rear kit with the Zimmermann rotors. They are pretty much identical to the OE rotors in the looks department and Zimmermann are great rotors. The rear caliper in our cars is floating, so going with full floating rotors doesn't add anything, other than perhaps looks, but the stock front and rear rotors already look different on the S as it is, so it doesn't bother me.
Last edited by superswiss; May 31, 2023 at 03:49 PM.
No coming from ///M cars... i like the bigger drilled discs much beter in the looks department... thats why im having my own discs made... like this... but ill be using small spacer ( to space out the caliper and will be using custom 405x36 discs..
Not sure if these are the actual rotors you are gonna put on, but that's a lot of large closely spaced holes weakening the rotors. Holes reduce the rotor surface, so that means less material for the pads to grab on, and they do weaken the rotor as well. Holes and slots add benefits for heat and dust dissipation, but there's a balance for it. Too much and the disadvantages are bigger than the advantages.
Not sure if these are the actual rotors you are gonna put on, but that's a lot of large closely spaced holes weakening the rotors. Holes reduce the rotor surface, so that means less material for the pads to grab on, and they do weaken the rotor as well. Holes and slots add benefits for heat and dust dissipation, but there's a balance for it. Too much and the disadvantages are bigger than the advantages.
What do you think about the HAKW pads buddy... looking for some upgraded pads... do you like the HAWKS?
I had the Hawk HPS and HPS 5.0 on my previous Audi RS5. I first switched to full floating rotors with Hawk HPS pads, because I faded the stock brakes in the canyons. The HPS were better, but still faded on me. Then I switched them out for the HPS 5.0 that just came out at the time, and those held up. Never felt I needed to upgrade the pads with the C63, because even the stock setup never faded on me.
So I have to ask, what is it that the stock pads are not delivering for you? If it's about brake dust then you have to go with ceramic pads, but those simply don't have the initial bite and do poorly when cold.
Comparing the spec sheets, appears that it saves 900g per side too!
Thanks for posting the links. Good info there. Also just learned that the upgraded rotors have PVT ventilation, whereas the stock rotors appear to have regular straight vanes. I really just learned about PVT. Apparently, they've found that regular straight vanes aren't really cooling the rotors very effectively. Directional vanes apparently are even worse.
I had the Hawk HPS and HPS 5.0 on my previous Audi RS5. I first switched to full floating rotors with Hawk HPS pads, because I faded the stock brakes in the canyons. The HPS were better, but still faded on me. Then I switched them out for the HPS 5.0 that just came out at the time, and those held up. Never felt I needed to upgrade the pads with the C63, because even the stock setup never faded on me.
So I have to ask, what is it that the stock pads are not delivering for you? If it's about brake dust then you have to go with ceramic pads, but those simply don't have the initial bite and do poorly when cold.
My Zimmerman fronts i bought in a combo with pads ( which are kinda **** ) the HPS 5.0 are alot cheaper then the oem pads... thats why i was asking...
My Zimmerman fronts i bought in a combo with pads ( which are kinda **** ) the HPS 5.0 are alot cheaper then the oem pads... thats why i was asking...
I see. Yes, they are cheaper. While I liked them on my RS5, Hawk pads have mixed reviews. Other than excessive brake dust, which I personally don't have an issue with, I haven't read many complaints about the OE pads, so just didn't feel like the Hawks or any other aftermarket streets pads would be worth it. If I went to the track regularly I'd might consider more aggressive race pads, but even for the hard canyon runs I do, the OE pads are great, IMO.
I see. Yes, they are cheaper. While I liked them on my RS5, Hawk pads have mixed reviews. Other than excessive brake dust, which I personally don't have an issue with, I haven't read many complaints about the OE pads, so just didn't feel like the Hawks or any other aftermarket streets pads would be worth it. If I went to the track regularly I'd might consider more aggressive race pads, but even for the hard canyon runs I do, the OE pads are great, IMO.
@superswiss what size MP4S tyre are you running on your front wheel in the photo above? Just wondering if it's a 30 or 35 profile (or something different...)
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