Get off my thread.

You're like some sicko who goes to another person's house, sits there and just takes craps everywhere.

That's where the smell comes from.

Jon

 

Not sure what kinda friends you have or what you do on your spare time, but your a bit weird and quite an oddball buddy... I'll stop picking on you before you start crying again and bringing up other suppressed memories from your childhood.. I kinda feel bad for you now stinky..

 

I have normal friends. I've been on BMW (10 years+) and Lexus (5 years) boards and have not run into guys like you except for a couple of guys who came pretty close.

Since you asked, work wise most of my clients are either on parole on have been in the system for their entire life. You really sound awfully like a lot of them. Making physical threats, aggressive speeches, taking stabs and pokes just to prove that you're better than the other person.

I don't need to do this back and forth with you if you simply go away for good.

Jon

 

Not sure what kinda friends you have or what you do on your spare time, but your a bit weird and quite an oddball buddy... I'll stop picking on you before you start crying again and bringing up other suppressed memories from your childhood.. I kinda feel bad for you now stinky..

 

I have normal friends. I've been on BMW (10 years+) and Lexus (5 years) boards and have not run into guys like you except for a couple of guys who came pretty close.

Since you asked, work wise most of my clients are either on parole on have been in the system for their entire life. You really sound awfully like a lot of them. Making physical threats, aggressive speeches, taking stabs and pokes just to prove that you're better than the other person.

I don't need to do this back and forth with you if you simply go away for good.

Jon

 

I don't recall asking or seeing any question marks at the end of any of the sentences in my previous post, but if it makes you feel better to talk about your "job" and your "clients" (which I find to be quite unprofessional btw) go for it. We're all here to listen to your problems. Just for you buddy..

But, since you brought it up, that helps explain your thought process quite a bit as well. Maybe you should stop hanging out like your "parolee" buddies, you're beginning to act like them quite a bit.. As far as me taking pokes, look up and see who started the wise *** comments.. Don't project your inferiority complex on me..

Oh and one last thing, wtf cares where you spend your nights for the past 10 years and 5 year, etc, as for me I'ma go have a few drinks.. Enjoy your online squabling stinky..

 

Since you clearly have chosen not to leave, let me put it this way to you.

I am raised to treat people with respect and to have a high level of intolerance for people who have attitude problems. First and foremost, you asked a question here as if you were my boss. A simple search on the forum or on the internet would've answered your question. If you're too lazy to do this, at least ask your question nicely.

I then suggested you to look either on Wikipedia or Google. I even took the time to type up my own explanation. Your smart *** follow up rhetorical question was completely unnecessary. The physical threats that you subsequently made further proved that you're probably just a kid or simply lack manner.

As a criminal defense attorney, I do my job correctly and mind you, I don't hold this true believer mentality that causes the system to penalize my Clients' interest simply because I want to play hero. Therefore, when I come across someone with personality problems, I tell him. If he happens to be my client, I do so to help him/her to keep quiet and exercise his/her 5th, not to hurt him.

You, on the other hand, are not my Client. And I don't owe anything to you. As a matter of fact, I dislike you because throughout your comments you seem to not want to admit or acknowledge the fact that you're sticking around for the sole reason that you're upset about being called on about your own lack of knowledge between what rwhp and crank hp is. Actually, you don't even have the ***** to man up that you gave the wrong answer/information, either.

The bottom line is, this is my thread. You need to leave here if you are not happy with what's being said. I don't care if you go hang yourself or what not, just leave.

I am glad that I was not the one making multiple 18' AMG wheels for sale and you weren't the one being blame for it. Or else you probably would've crapped on every single one of my thread like you did today.

Jon

 

Please kill this ridiculous thread.

 

ALi

 

Jon,
You and I are in the same spot right now. I really want more power but it seems very hard and expensive to get it from our cars. I regularly go to a Kleeman shop by my house and it seems they are the best route, albeit expensive. Have you considered getting a Quaife differential put in? I am going to do that in the spring. It will eliminate the open differential the car comes with which robs horsepower at the rear wheels. I considered an ECU upgrade but was told it would yield negligible results...too much cash for too little performance. I am also going with the Kleeman headers...to compliment my Eisenmann race exhaust. It will be quite loud but I think in the end it will give me a little ooomph. I'm undecided if I want to go with a Kleeman SS, or not, very expensive. $12,500 would be a nice downpayment on an 03 SL55. I might go that route and jst keep the 03CL the way it is. Also...sprint booster is a must!!!

 

Man, I didn't mean to make you lose sleep over this guy. Seems like you have gotten your panties all in a bunch. I see how much respect you were taught. I'm surprised you do defense work and not prosecutorial work (maybe its because it appears you've become a desensitized burnout), but either way you should probably keep your resume off the site, don't think many of us care it. I'm pretty confident you're not the only attorney/professional on this site, or even this thread (even though you fail to act like one and have the manerisms of my 5 year old nephew). Yet, you don't see the rest of us posting our resume in an attempt to bolster our credibility and defend our position. Smile buddy, everyday above ground is a good day, no?

As for my contribution to the thread, I thought I could help you out by posting a link with what I thought was the correct information. My subsequest request for information was a clear admitance of my confusion over the crank and rwhp. Your subsequent "*****ness", if you must, resulted in my responses. That being said, out of respect to the rest of the board member's I'll leave you to your late saturday nights stuck reading the forums (of which you've already told us your "long" history about) and posting your resume on them in hopes other's will simpathize with your position.

Just a last thought tho, maybe, just maybe, if you spent a little more time preparing for trial, writing motions and possbly even some writs most of your clients wouldn't be on parole or doing life in prison. You may also want to stop taking them bad plea deals and have the ***** to help your clients go to trial every now and then.. You do know that the prosecution often makes plea offers based on the attorney's reputation and not solely on the merrits of their case. If they believe the attorney is a burnout and won't fight, they'll give a ****tier offer - like say life in jail, etc... As for me, no matter how guilty or not guilty my clients may be, I don't have many of my clients going to jail, not to mention prison. I'm sure you know the difference right? (Enjoy doing your Wikipedia and Google search on that.)

 

Both of you have taken a very "information packed" thread, which includes insight from a very knowledgable member(Vadim), and ***** all over it. If you have this much angst and anger for each other...PM one another, or better yet, start a new thread under OFF TOPIC!!!

Vadim, if you are still reading/reviewing this thread...what are the pluses/minuses of the Quaife diff, headers, Eisenmann exhaust, and BMC filters on a stock 03 CL500? Any noticeable gains?
Jay

 

for real.

and i feel your pain, but 12k is a BIG waste if you ask me just to get our cl's to do something great. that money could just as well be put towards a 55 like you said.

is their any Pully that would fit onto our cars from another setup?



ALi

 

Ali,
I asked my friend at Kleeman about pulley's and he said of course I could get them but they wouldn't make that much of a difference to our cars, at least not a noticeable one. These cars are so big and heavy and at such a performance disadvantage compared with 55's and 65's that it would take a lot of money and upgrades to make a difference. Gonna snap a pic of the new wheels today and post. How bout you get a sound clip of the Renn exhaust? I know it's cold and Sunday...but get off your @ss and away from the computer and just do it.

 

If interested. There is a fairly new (Purchased new from Kleemann in July) Kleemann V8 kit on sale at Ebay right now with 2 days time remaining on the auction. The headers, however are way overpriced in my opinion.

 

Guys,

PMing isn't going to work because I already know that this clown is just going to continue writing until he fills up my inbox. Clearly, he's upset at my profession because he might have been prosecuted to the fullest extent for something he didn't do.

What would you have done if an idiot who comes to your thread, craps all over it and refuses to leave when he's told to? If ignoring him is the answer, then that's exactly what I'll do from now on.

deviil:

This is the last time I am asking you to leave. You were the one too lazy and too stupid to do a simple search to begin with and you have the audacity to preach me on how to work hard? You'd better not be a lawyer because I wouldn't be able to imagine how you would've passed the bar if you know only how to bicker like a grandma and don't even bother with a simple search and spell check. If "wanna clue me in on the difference?" and "so was that google or wikipedia?" are the ways your parents taught you how to politely request the information and express gratitude upon receipt of it, then I rest my case. No one here is your secretary or 411.

Mind you, bad pleas result from defense attorneys with your attitude: Not conceding to points where you should have and holding on grounds that you shouldn't have. If you act like this in the system, then you'll know what I mean. From now on, just leave my thread. You don't see me acting like an *** in your thread, do you?

Jay:

I am not sure how much performance gain can headers achieve for N/A cars. On BMW boards, it's a popular belief that headers do not yield much hp gain and it's one of the most expensive mods. in terms of increased hp/money spent. Perhaps things are different with Mercedes?

Differentials may help but as far as I know, changing rear differentials may provide faster take off speed but will ultimately hurt the car's top end performance. I don't have enough statistic on this but higher diff. ratios may also put more strain on the engine, as it has to rev higher more frequently. Hence, I was hoping that a supercharger will give more performance without compromising the car's top end performance.

goliath:

I understand that $12k is a lot of money. But nowadays it's also difficult to find a used CL55 or 600 that comes with Starkmark warranty, plus brand new ABC pump, suspension, engine/transmission mounts, A/C compressor, other vulnerable CL components, etc. for a good price. If you take all these items in consideration, then I'll definitely end up spending more than $20k even if I have to trade in my CL. A SC on a well maintained CL500 is definitely a cheaper option.

Again, I am not sure how pulleys are going to affect Mercedes. One major BMW tuner (I'll refrain from disclosing his name) dislikes pulley because he believes using it may upset the harmonic balancer and ultimately, lead to the engine's demise. However, I've seen plenty of people who use pulleys on their BMWs without problems. Companies such as Evo Sport, Evo Tech, Rogue Engineering, etc. are all selling them for BMWs. As long as you be careful as to whether you're buying a crank pulley or accessory pullies and know their effects, you should be okay. Crank pulley usually gives more hp/tq installed but changing out the crank is more risky.

Other than FI upgrade, based on my experience with N/A BMWs, items such as headers, pulleys, intake, exhaust, ECU softwares give the best yields only if you "butt-dyno" the car. In other words, the psychological satisfaction may be there and the car may sound wonderful and breathe easier, but when you see the real numbers, there will be some disappointments.

I am somewhat excited about the new plugs and 55 kompressor airbox, and will definitely post results here when I do this upgrade.

Jon

 

Jay- Lol chill dude, i'm at WORK on a sunday lol. Soon as my Bro gets in i'll run out their and get her warm for ya.


Baby - i guess, but wont doing that void the warranty? or at least parts of it like the motor? would it NOT be wise to just...... BUY a 55 motor?




ALi

 

Interesting question. Whether a particular mod. voids warranty appears to be a hot topic, even on this board.

If I were you, I'd wait until the warranty expires and depending upon the condition of my car, decide if I want to keep/mod it or sell it before problems start to occur.

There's a thread here (I believe it's under CL55 v. CL600, which is faster?) that discusses whether the dealership or Renntech will honor the factory warranty if something breaks. I don't think I would have the expertise or nerve to test this theory myself.

I am not sure how much a 55 motor would cost but from the maintenance perspective, I think it may be easier to slap a brand new supercharger on a well-maintained CL500 engine than buying a used CL55 motor that might or might not have been abused.

Jon

 

She is big and heavy so I figured I might as well put big, heavy shoes on her! I love them though.

 

looks great to me, once this snow is gone i will be sittin on my shoes as well


gonna get the clip for you in a couple a min.




ALi

 

Jay...... Video




ALi

 

Jay, Quaife works great on higher powered cars. On a stock CL500, it helps, but not as much on 55 Kompressor, which can not hook up at all. My suggestion is to do power upgrades first and than do the Quaife.

On the headers you can expect about 12-15 RWHP, right now Kleemann is the only source. We are working on 55 Kompressot ones that might fit 500s as well. I will have a better idea on fitment in about a month.

Exhaust - in my experience aftermarket catbacks have not make any power gains. Typically, they make car louder.

Filters - BMC or K&N are worth about 5HP and easy to install, Definitely will recommend them.

I am working on Power Packages for all 3-valve MB motors, so stay tune, I will post updates shortly.

 

AWESOME! Thanks for the feedback.