I'm not going into any argumentation with you because it makes no sense with people like you
you like writing so much that you just can't stop
Just create something new and we will see

about the abc module, yes it is just 1 atmel chip to be copied
then you'll need to clone the board, that is just a matter of having a chinese company print them
then the components are all basic crap so everywhere
why I didn't do it ?
why would I ?
why you won't do it ? because you have no money

 

you claim this suspension is worthwhile but also have to have the settings maxed out? what's the point of adjustable dampeners when the only suitable setting is max... to me this says you are compensating for something

just copy the "none preload"? that's also incorrect, you need to generally add 5mm of preload at minimum, to prevent the springs from bouncing freely. maybe it's you who you should stop sharing half-assed info... Maybe stick to just re-sharing screenshots of SDS...?

Where are your screenshots for removing the tweeter without breaking the mounting tabs, you expect a "newbee" here to remove his tweeter without breaking the tabs? Talk about halfassed information, we will just add his car to the countless w215's I've seen with broken tweeter mounting tabs...based on half assed "remove it and swap it to the otherside" info, when it's commonly known these cars have wiring issues in the door jam. Nuff said

 

Why start arguments and keep responding then? Seems like you argue with yourself plenty enough. Is the kit bouncy or no? Later in this same thread below I am quoting, you claimed the 20kg springs removed all bounce issues. I've had people tell me the opposite and the bounce was only worse with 20kg springs. How do stiffer springs compensate for inadequate shocks? Short answer- they don't and you just get a bounce scenario because the springs are too firm to do any compression anymore, or let the shock absorber function

it's really just basic fundamental mechanics to understand shocks control bounce, springs don't




writing is fun, i like learning how to take care of these cars by helping others figure out their solutions. they say teaching is one of the best ways to learn, I guess not and I should just buy MB workshop software from you instead. You claim it's needed to make over 50% of the repairs on this car but I've replaced half the **** on this car without it... not sure if this is just intimidating to you or something



I didn't say anything about the abc module here I dont think, instead of answering my PM about helping you finish you just respond that I should buy MB software from you lol. You would get eaten alive in a sales position.

So it's kind of funny for you to bring it up out of nowhere on this thread, leads me to believe I have hit a soft spot with you in mentioning that you were unable to replicate the strutmasters module and wanted to help
ok so do it?

Good point, why didn't you do it? You went through the trouble of actually buying the module just to never finish replicating it. Sorry to have hit your soft spot mr.mercedes expert

this is one of the dumbest ad-hominem responses I've seen on this page in years... The strutmasters error delete was never a huge deal for me, but I remembered you said you were working on replicating it so I figured I'd follow up? not that crazy. Worry about yourself bud. When people besides just you start telling me I'm giving bad advice I'll take it into further consideration and start adhering "THIS IS MY ESTIMATE GUESS ON WHAT I THINK IS GOING ON, THIS NOTE IS REQUIRED TO KEEP PMERCURY HAPPY". Until then, just keep trying out my ideas and claiming you found the magic solution despite numerous other people saying this is just an ebay coilover kit at best... I just bought a house and spent plenty updating/maintaining my car, I also just got a raise at work. I'm doing fine just worry about yourself and getting rid of that rear spoiler. Poor people don't waste time maintaining 20 year old mercedes. You have a nearly 20 year old car yourself I wouldn't pretend you are made of money. Why not just keep fixing ABC if you have so much money? It's clearly superior and YOU apparently have all the MB software to keep it maintained. Instead you install the equivalent of ebay coilovers on a $100k+ msrp german car and wonder why some people say it's not 100%. Just move on I'm not buying any software from you lol

 

as I said before, just create some new threads, then upgrade your car to 820 HP and 1100 torque and come back, then maybe some people will take you seriously
your fingers are smoking so much you spam the board with crap

 

Hey guys, if you don’t claim to have 800 horsepower, you might as well not post here anymore. Your car looked kinda fast from 60-120 otherwise it seemed to accelerate like any other 2003 v8 car..sorry to break it to you. Still wondering if you have pics or videos of this 800hp claim too...

Apparently I spam the board with crap, but you often post incorrect **** that’s usually not even intelligible, even with the help of copy and pasting straight from the workshop manual.

Seeing that photo of your car with the Honda rear lip on every post you make is my personal definition of spamming this group with crap. But you know what they say about opinions, everybody has one.

Get back to work on your strutmasters module buddy. Or better yet, take it to the track and see how there are lots of v8 m113’s here getting faster quarter mile times with less horsepower

 

Why’s it so hard to just be honest? 20kg rear springs doesn’t cut it, see photo below of someone who even said it seemed to get worse with 20kg springs

 

it's all about settings and my thread is for V12 ONLY

 

then surely you’ll be able to provide some video proof of you driving “way faster than me with way worse roads and no bounce”? We’ve seen your video driving through a tunnel now provide something actually useful. You know the old saying “pics or it didn’t happen”.

Weve also seen you spend countless hours going back and forth trying to fix your bounce issue, so maybe it’s just a matter of pride not allowing you to be entirely truthful.

Im sure the v12 w215 is much much different than the v8 w215 besides the engine weight and brakes

 

I don't drive over 300 KM/H in Germany if I bounce
that says it all

 

says nothing really.. barely makes sense, if any. pics or it didn't happen.

 

viewers can compare easily
your threads:
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=24374928

my contribution:
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=24374930

free manual:
https://mbworld.org/forums/performan...ing-guide.html

free software I created
Xentry Offline addons installers 2015-2019


open your eyes
keep talking alone, you will be ignored

 

nothing shows up for those search results. too bad, i'm sure everyone gives a ****. but back on topic, where's the pics of the dyno numbers, is it 812 hp or 820? you can't seem to make up your mind based on your posts

where's the vids of your yellowspeed system functioning properly? doubt we will ever see that. just useless videos of you driving in a tunnel and lashing out whenever somebody thanks me for helping them on this site. talk about "talking alone"... this was a good thread until you started having an attitude

thought you weren't arguing? quite a handful of useless replies we've got here today ironically

i guess i would be pissy too if my special 820hp twin turbo v12 mercedes handled like a gokart with no real suspension with overly stiff 22kg/20kg spring rates and shocks that barely work . especially after just following in my footsteps of retrofitting this car with coilovers

stick to pictures and videos, this useless lashing out speaks volumes. you go from trying to sell me software in PM to crying because someone thanked me in this thread and because i asked if you had the strutmasters module figured out.... quite pathetic bud

 

ctravis595, i also got my head bitten off a while ago, simply by giving a little bit of help and advise, i felt a lot of anger within the reply i received.



06-27-2017, 09:51 AM
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Excellent write up! I have a quick tip too this may have been covered already but could potentially save more money...?!

When fitting new coil packs, fit a new voltage transformer too as apparently when the coils start to fail, it can quickly damage the votage transformer also vice versa fitting new coils packs but using an old voltage transformer can quickly break new coil packs.

I think of it like fitting a new timing belt but leaving the original rollers/tensioners, why would you not worth it?!

Anyway each to their own, eveyone has their own budget i guess but these cars aren't really worth trying to fix on the cheap as it only comes back to bite you later...!

Incidentally i replaced my coils with MB ones but newer part no's, bought online in the UK so saved about 15%.

Alex

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06-27-2017, 11:49 AM
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what do you mean by > " new timing belt " ?
you mean the timing chain ? that is double on M275,
that never breaks and is not to be replaced


A hobby is not about money
unlimited budget
but as it is a hobby, you do it yourself for fun
the limit of what you do yourself is personal

also, maybe you call this cheap-***,
but maybe this article will help people who don't have big budgets

do you have Xentry Das Developper ? no ? so I can call you a cheap-*** too

everybody is someone's cheap-***

 

Without buying his developer level software to change the background loadup screen to the AMG logo on your radio, or 812 unproven horsepower, we simply aren’t worth his time.

How could we think otherwise?

im going to try that at work today, whenever a customer doesn’t want something I’ll just call them poor

edit: Benny I think that is actually excellent advice that you were attacked for providing, just my opinion. Your analogy about replacing timing chains but not guides is spot-on. It's like changing oil but not the oil filter lol

 

Exactly an analogy thats all it was : ) I know they don't have timing belts , end of the day we all love this car or we wouldn't be on here and the forum is great for help and advise, without this forum too there may be less of these machines on the roads

 

Ive since taken a position with Mercedes as a service tech and have learned to use SDS, it’s nice but absolutely not necessary for 99% of repairs on this car. As an enthusiast it is a nice change of pace from my last job and offers full benefits. Plus use of the shops car lifts, and resources is priceless. (Funny enough, all of my coworkers I’ve talked to, are impressed with my pre existing/ self taught knowledge and modifications, you know, REAL professionals)

But anyways, a simple $50 code reader and common sense can tackle most issues, compared to today’s standards, these cars really are not that complex

in fact, a cheap code reader will often point you in the right direction a lot sooner than the Xentry system, by the time Xentry is done reading all of the modules, I would have already started removing the o2 sensor, the wheel speed sensor, or whatever was in question.

Xentry is most important on cars you’ve never worked on before, because it will thoroughly introduce you to many of the cars issues. But when working on YOUR car , for which you are familiar with (for example, if you have abs sensor lights after changing some brake pads, you just might need to check the abs sensors and wires) really common sense, some basic tools and a cheap scanner is all that’s needed most of the time

this isn’t a722.9 system where you need to reset the transmission via SDS after changing a conductor plate...I did fine working on my car for years without SDS. Save the money towards things you KNOW the car needs, flex discs, transmission service, wheel bearings, control arms ETC. one of the only things on this car where SDS is necessary is when diagnosing and repairing the failing ABC hydraulic system. But ironically both sides of this conversation have both elected to replace the abc system with coilovers, since I originally took the plunge


edit- I’ve also acquired “proper documentation” and holy crap I’ve never seen a Better way to waste an hour of time before actually starting a repair

 

that is correct, but on the other side if you don't spend 700$ on a Xentry system, the day that you end up with a problem where you need coding and no little local workshop (where you would still pay 100-150)
you would lose at least 500$ at the MB dealer. + that you will never see the hundreds of options and settings avaible only in Xentry to upgrade, retrofit and set your car's options the way you want them
last thing, with cheap code reader you can maybe erase the basic fault memory, but NOT the event memory. So if one day you sell the car, all the faults will still hang there
and more..
but I agree on old cheaper, less complicated pre-2003 cars need of Xentry is less usefull
MB electronic real change was 2003

 

Thanks to Pmercury for hooking me up with Xentry. It has more than paid for itself, actually way more than paid for itself. When I bought my CL600 the contour seats didn't work. I didn't really buy it for the seats, I was more interested in the TTV12. I just thought I could take the seats out and fix whatever was not working. One day I was poking around in DAS and found that the seats were disabled. All I had to do was enable the seats and they worked fine after that. The SOS message was always coming up on the dash. Found the setting to disable the SOS system and now that is fixed. I didn't like the speed limiter set at 210 km/hr, so I put it at 250 like it was supposed to be when it left the factory. You won't get any MB dealer to delete the speed limiter.

I used it on my CLK550 to troubleshoot a rough idle. It pointed me to #2 cylinder having low compression. So now with a leak down tester I should be able to pinpoint the issue. I even discovered that the CLK was limited to 60 km/hr in reverse. Now it is set to 80, because who only drives 60 in reverse?

My 2012 C class hasn't had any problems yet, so haven't even hooked it up to that car yet, but I'm sure one day I'll have to. If you added up the cost of all those trips I didn't have to make to the dealership it would be over a grand for sure.

Maybe everyone doesn't need this, but for the person who hates to take their car to the dealership it is well worth the price.

I couldn't see owning a MB without having Xentry and SDS.

 

Thx a lot, you are welcome

 

It really depends on the dealer you go to. I know of some who will go above and beyond with the base 1hr diagnostic fee, I know others who will demand you spend $600 and waste a lot of time just to do anything. Really depends on your service advisor, your dealings/attitude and the technician you get

things like disabling teleaid, lowering coolant temp -10 degrees, rear o2 sensor delete, I’ve just gone to friends with Mercedes shops for very reasonable prices. if you have a wishlist in mind, any friendly dealer, or independent shop should be able to knock all of this out in 1hr time, and you aren’t running the risk of altering values you shouldn’t be messing with, some of the instructions for these processes are available online but some aren’t and you are stuck with an expensive diagnosis machine you don’t know how to use in that scenario

like I said any $50 code reader is gonna tell you about a single cylinder misfire, and further compression testing is usually necessary afterwards anyways. SDS is nice to have but very excessive for most applications. I’ve also heard some units are fairly unreliable, etc

 

- risk of altering values you shouldn’t be messing with

there is 0 risk altering values if you use your brains and when you start setting a module, you go to actual settings or variant code and print out a PDF

-I’ve also heard some units are fairly unreliable

that is exactly why you need a pro to point you to the right full chip versions that have been tested in the past

 

New info, hope some of you now understand what the Chinese software contains:


Posted today on internal forums

29-09-2019, 04:41 PM
Dear Respected Members:
Currently, many people are suffering from accounts being hacked by Chinese hackers, this is became serious issue and really annoying
ghost press is not a sufficient solution
anyone can help in how to protect our SCN accounts?


29-09-2019, 04:52 PM
Anyone else who is experiencing this issue? Can it be the HDD guys buy from China?