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gripforce-cl65 02-08-2008 09:43 PM

Evotech CL65 dyno result
 
Remember Evotech CL65 vs Evosport M6 show down? Well, we finally dynoed the both cars side by side at the same place on a same day. The dyno shop was Powertrain Dynamics located right next to the evosport in Huntington Beach. The owner Steve is a great guy and I found that he does most of the dynos for Vadim@VRP. When we got there Vadim@VRP was testing modded E55 and that car was putting down 508 at the wheels:y. and had great exhaust sound. Vadim helped dyno the CL and even logged the data for me. what a great guy!! There were many people from this forum speculated the evotech M6 had unusually high number (476whp) and concerned about the recently tuned CL65 by evotech. The below number shows that the previous M6's 476whp was SAE uncorrected number and the power gain for the Evotech ECU/TCU tuned CL65 was just about right. They've seen many ECU tuned 65 cars leaning out (13.0+) but my 65 AFR was right on the money and Steve and Vadim seemed very impressed by the both AFR and whp numbers. I know this isn't awesome number nor anything to brag about but I am happy with the result and most of all I am very satisfied the way the car runs.

Evotech CL65
SAE uncorrected: 559whp
SAE corrected: 540whp
AFR: 12.0-11.5

Evosport M6
SAE uncorrected: 472whp
SAE corrected: 456whp
AFR: 13.0-12.0

As for the torque numbers, we didn't get the exact numbers due to all the dyno pulls were done 3500rpm and up. I will try to post the dyno charts and videos. Lastly I want to thank Adam@Evotech for the tuning and great service.

EUROTEK//AMG 02-08-2008 10:07 PM

Wtq ?

juicee63 02-08-2008 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65 (Post 2644632)
Remember Evotech CL65 vs Evosport M6 show down? Well, we finally dynoed the both cars side by side at the same place on a same day. The dyno shop was Powertrain Dynamics located right next to the evosport in Huntington Beach. The owner Steve is a great guy and I found that he does most of the dynos for Vadim@VRP. When we got there Vadim@VRP was testing modded E55 and that car was putting down 508 at the wheels:y. and had great exhaust sound. Vadim helped dyno the CL and even logged the data for me. what a great guy!! There were many people from this forum speculated the evotech M6 had unusually high number (476whp) and concerned about the recently tuned CL65 by evotech. The below number shows that the previous M6's 476whp was SAE uncorrected number and the power gain for the Evotech ECU/TCU tuned CL65 was just about right. They've seen many ECU tuned 65 cars leaning out (13.0+) but my 65 AFR was right on the money and Steve and Vadim seemed very impressed by the both AFR and whp numbers. I know this isn't awesome number nor anything to brag about but I am happy with the result and most of all I am very satisfied the way the car runs.

Evotech CL65
SAE uncorrected: 559whp
SAE corrected: 540whp
AFR: 12.0-11.5

Evosport M6
SAE uncorrected: 472whp
SAE corrected: 456whp
AFR: 13.0-12.0

As for the torque numbers, we didn't get the exact numbers due to all the dyno pulls were done 3500rpm and up. I will try to post the dyno charts and videos. Lastly I want to thank Adam@Evotech for the tuning and great service.


Looks good, post up the graph if you can! Wonder if Jangy knows his car is a terrible monster now?? Man the Benzes get down on the dyno. Id love to see thhe SAE correction factor and all the other deets

Mathmik 02-09-2008 02:04 AM

Nice I can't wait on new Videos:)

Fikse 02-09-2008 11:45 AM

can you post the SAE graphs?

Vadim @ FD 02-09-2008 12:17 PM

Hey Gregory!

It was a pleasure to meet you!

I love your color combo - white with beige interior. Very clean.

I believe your CL made 595 RWTQ and 540RWHP in SAE.

A/F was good at high11s and IC pump was working fine.

Enjoy the car!

JAYCL600 02-09-2008 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Vadim @ VRP (Post 2645257)

I believe your CL made 595 RWTQ

:nix: was the tcu not reprogrammed on this, looks as if the TQ limits are still in place, I made 711 RWTQ on a mustang dyno corrected before I did any mods to my car

Addicted2Speed 02-09-2008 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by E55JAY (Post 2645430)
:nix: was the tcu not reprogrammed on this, looks as if the TQ limits are still in place, I made 711 RWTQ on a mustang dyno corrected before I did any mods to my car

Its impossible for you to make 711rwtq when stock CL65 is only rated at 738lb-ft torque at the crank.

regor60 02-09-2008 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed (Post 2645469)
Its impossible for you to make 711rwtq when stock CL65 is only rated at 738lb-ft torque at the crank.

:rolleyes:

JAYCL600 02-10-2008 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed (Post 2645469)
Its impossible for you to make 711rwtq when stock CL65 is only rated at 738lb-ft torque at the crank.

:rolleyes:thats a pretty definitive statement

V12Godspeed 02-10-2008 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed (Post 2645469)
Its impossible for you to make 711rwtq when stock CL65 is only rated at 738lb-ft torque at the crank.

I believe his TCU is reprogrammed by AMG, he is not stock.

tkracing 02-10-2008 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by MIG-E55Rocket (Post 2646117)
I believe his TCU is reprogrammed by AMG, he is not stock.


before I did any mods to my car
I am confused was it stock or not?

JAYCL600 02-10-2008 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by tkracing (Post 2646397)
I am confused was it stock or not?

I purchased my car with ECU/TCU mods, then I added custom exhaust, filters and IC reservoir.

tkracing 02-10-2008 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by E55JAY (Post 2646413)
I purchased my car with ECU/TCU mods, then I added custom exhaust, filters and IC reservoir.

Ahh I see. Thanks.

I agree. It seems the tq is a little low.

JAYCL600 02-10-2008 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by tkracing (Post 2646435)
Ahh I see. Thanks.

I agree. It seems the tq is a little low.

Actually at 595rwtq after ECU tune is pretty low. The 600's and the 65's make roughly the same RWTQ when modified but the 65 should make about 25+ more RWHP

Stephen04E55 02-10-2008 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed (Post 2645469)
Its impossible for you to make 711rwtq when stock CL65 is only rated at 738lb-ft torque at the crank.

Wow...impossible?

TMC M5 02-11-2008 02:48 PM

It is amazing how the "impossible" became not only possible...but probable given the explanation. I think (this is how you state an opinion) some people should give a veteran Board member with exceptional posts and information the benefit of the doubt and ask questions first before making grandiose statements.

Tom

gripforce-cl65 02-11-2008 08:58 PM

Dyno Chart
 
Here it is.
http://www.gripforce.com/images/Dyno-Chart.jpg

JAYCL600 02-11-2008 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65 (Post 2649080)

what would you estimate the temperature to be during these runs

ROCKETW19 02-11-2008 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by E55JAY (Post 2649113)
what would you estimate the temperature to be during these runs

LA is hot right now im gonna guess 80.

J, will there be a difference between 18" rims and 20" rims on the dyno HP wise?

ROCKETW19 02-11-2008 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65 (Post 2644632)
Remember Evotech CL65 vs Evosport M6 show down? Well, we finally dynoed the both cars side by side at the same place on a same day. The dyno shop was Powertrain Dynamics located right next to the evosport in Huntington Beach. The owner Steve is a great guy and I found that he does most of the dynos for Vadim@VRP. When we got there Vadim@VRP was testing modded E55 and that car was putting down 508 at the wheels:y. and had great exhaust sound. Vadim helped dyno the CL and even logged the data for me. what a great guy!! There were many people from this forum speculated the evotech M6 had unusually high number (476whp) and concerned about the recently tuned CL65 by evotech. The below number shows that the previous M6's 476whp was SAE uncorrected number and the power gain for the Evotech ECU/TCU tuned CL65 was just about right. They've seen many ECU tuned 65 cars leaning out (13.0+) but my 65 AFR was right on the money and Steve and Vadim seemed very impressed by the both AFR and whp numbers. I know this isn't awesome number nor anything to brag about but I am happy with the result and most of all I am very satisfied the way the car runs.

Evotech CL65
SAE uncorrected: 559whp
SAE corrected: 540whp
AFR: 12.0-11.5

Evosport M6
SAE uncorrected: 472whp
SAE corrected: 456whp
AFR: 13.0-12.0

As for the torque numbers, we didn't get the exact numbers due to all the dyno pulls were done 3500rpm and up. I will try to post the dyno charts and videos. Lastly I want to thank Adam@Evotech for the tuning and great service.

I have no idea what a CL65 should have HP wise but 560 HP seems good to me.
was the E55 you seen white? honestly how did you like the rims?

neveo 02-12-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by E55JAY (Post 2649113)
what would you estimate the temperature to be during these runs

is there a formula to determine how much a 55 amg engine will lose for every rise in temperature ? say it makes 480rwhp at 60degrees then how much should it make at 70 degrees if all other factors are the same at 60 degrees? :nix:

JAYCL600 02-13-2008 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by ROCKETW19 (Post 2649135)
LA is hot right now im gonna guess 80.

J, will there be a difference between 18" rims and 20" rims on the dyno HP wise?

On the dyno, OH yes depending on the weight dif

Fikse 02-13-2008 09:14 AM

here are a bunch of 65 dynos, stock and modified....


http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...no-Sheets.html

V12Godspeed 02-13-2008 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Fikse (Post 2651728)
here are a bunch of 65 dynos, stock and modified....


http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...no-Sheets.html

Wow, those are some dyno numbers...somehow the 610 at the wheels renntech S65 are uncorrected numbers. Anybody knows what they are corrected, seems healthy as an Ox. The AFR seems to be in the 12's, shouldn't they drop to the 11's to be in the safe side....?


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