I just turned down a great deal. Am I nuts??
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That may be so.
But what you've stated is not what I meant in my post. I was pointing out that the European market cars may not be always as well equipped as their U.S. counterpart. And a well equipped U.S. specimen my friend, is pretty desirable to the European customers who probably don't even care about gas prices.
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But what you've stated is not what I meant in my post. I was pointing out that the European market cars may not be always as well equipped as their U.S. counterpart. And a well equipped U.S. specimen my friend, is pretty desirable to the European customers who probably don't even care about gas prices.
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It's not rocket science to make simple observations that there are plenty of base cars in Europe that do not come fully equipped. Why are you stating that the Europeans get more options? That's not even the point I was trying to make.
Having more options in Europe doesn't mean that most of the buyers there will load up their cars with them.
Having more options in Europe doesn't mean that most of the buyers there will load up their cars with them.
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It's not rocket science to make simple observations that there are plenty of base cars in Europe that do not come fully equipped. Why are you stating that the Europeans get more options? That's not even the point I was trying to make.
Having more options in Europe doesn't mean that most of the buyers there will load up their cars with them.
Having more options in Europe doesn't mean that most of the buyers there will load up their cars with them.
Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.
I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
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We're not talking about base cars, but V12 AMGs.
Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.
I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.
I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
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You're not the only one who's been to Europe before buddy.
I was making my points to Larry and trying to tell him that he's made a wise choice. You jumped out of nowhere and criticized my comments. After I corrected you more than a couple of times, you have the audacity to tell me that you are done arguing with me?
Have I ever said cars here are more expensive in the U.S.? What minimum standard feature are you trying to point out for cars here? Is there ever a U.S. CL or S class that did not come with navigation like some of the European ones did?
So what's the point you're trying to accomplish here? Stop bickering with me and just let the guy feel better for being able to keep his car.
I was making my points to Larry and trying to tell him that he's made a wise choice. You jumped out of nowhere and criticized my comments. After I corrected you more than a couple of times, you have the audacity to tell me that you are done arguing with me?
Have I ever said cars here are more expensive in the U.S.? What minimum standard feature are you trying to point out for cars here? Is there ever a U.S. CL or S class that did not come with navigation like some of the European ones did?
So what's the point you're trying to accomplish here? Stop bickering with me and just let the guy feel better for being able to keep his car.
We're not talking about base cars, but V12 AMGs.
Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.
I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.
I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
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You're not the only one who's been to Europe before buddy.
I was making my points to Larry and trying to tell him that he's made a wise choice. You jumped out of nowhere and criticized my comments. After I corrected you more than a couple of times, you have the audacity to tell me that you are done arguing with me?
Have I ever said cars here are more expensive in the U.S.? What minimum standard feature are you trying to point out for cars here? Is there ever a U.S. CL or S class that did not come with navigation like some of the European ones did?
So what's the point you're trying to accomplish here? Stop bickering with me and just let the guy feel better for being able to keep his car.
I was making my points to Larry and trying to tell him that he's made a wise choice. You jumped out of nowhere and criticized my comments. After I corrected you more than a couple of times, you have the audacity to tell me that you are done arguing with me?
Have I ever said cars here are more expensive in the U.S.? What minimum standard feature are you trying to point out for cars here? Is there ever a U.S. CL or S class that did not come with navigation like some of the European ones did?
So what's the point you're trying to accomplish here? Stop bickering with me and just let the guy feel better for being able to keep his car.
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And why are you bringing the thread even more off top topic by commenting about how much you know me?
I never said gas wasn't expensive in Europe to begin with. I used the phrase "my friend" to point out that he was mis-construing my sentences and making them into a completely different meaning that I did not intend to use.
If there's something that he doesn't like about what I said, let him respond with his reasons. There's no need to get too excited on your behalf.
Jon
I never said gas wasn't expensive in Europe to begin with. I used the phrase "my friend" to point out that he was mis-construing my sentences and making them into a completely different meaning that I did not intend to use.
If there's something that he doesn't like about what I said, let him respond with his reasons. There's no need to get too excited on your behalf.
Jon
Where did he criticize you? He pointed out gas was expensive in Europe and you facetiously repeated his phrase "my friend" which he uses often. You were the one who made an entirely off topic post. He's a long time and respected member here with a lot of friends. You, well the first time I heard your name was when you were asking for a wedding carriage. Just try not to go looking for arguments and you'll find this board a better place to be.
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Thank you all that responded. I feel very content with my decision!
I really appreciate all the responses to my initial worry. It made me feel much better that I kept my car
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Jon, Rob, and Carl,
I understand where all you guys are coming from. Just a bit of miscommunication IMO. No big deal
. Thanks again for the advice.
Larry
.Jon, Rob, and Carl,
I understand where all you guys are coming from. Just a bit of miscommunication IMO. No big deal
. Thanks again for the advice.Larry
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I know for a fact they tuned a CLS55 before so I know they know the 55 engine. One of the guys at the track I met was running mid 11 sec 1/4 miles with all work done by ASR. His car was totally upgraded however. He had ECU, headers, full exhaust, pully, and throttle body. I would consider RennTech over ASR however. RennTech is like having AMG tune your car. They are the true experts and they have been tuning the 55 engine since it came out. Their upgrades are time tested and well proven. Good luck with whomever you use. Just trying to give you my opinion to dwell on before you make a choice.
Larry
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France,Went to ASR today... Spoke to Abid .. took me for a ride on one of his cls there.. very fast for minor upgrades.... but not completly sold yet going to do more research on ASR..
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I assumed you were just f-ing with me
. No worries for me, however someone else may get offended when " a little good natured ribbing" occurs to someone you don't know. Many of us on the forum have become friends over time so if it came from one of them it is assumed a joke. When it comes from someone new, it can be taken the wrong way as there are a lot of haters (a-holes) out there. Just my opinion.
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. No worries for me, however someone else may get offended when " a little good natured ribbing" occurs to someone you don't know. Many of us on the forum have become friends over time so if it came from one of them it is assumed a joke. When it comes from someone new, it can be taken the wrong way as there are a lot of haters (a-holes) out there. Just my opinion.Larry
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. Actually disregard what I said. Just be yourself. I was just saying what I thought might turn some people off but I'll assume you probably are smart enough to know these things. No big deal. Take care.Larry
