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Old 06-02-2008, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hdtv22
Is there a reason why you didnt sell this car and get another CL just like it to pocket the 20k depreciation? Or did you preform mods on it
Funny you mention that. I sat down and calculated everything out and for the hassle it wasn't worth it to me. Example. A car just sold at auction for 67K with the same options, color, and mileage as my car. It is now being offered for 73K at a dealership in Chicago. There are cheaper ones out there by about 5K but the mileage's are much higher and they have less options. Lets say I can get the car for 70K. I made 10K. I'll have to get it inspected and shipped for 1.5K so now I'm up 8.5K. I'll have to get new wheels as I love my current 360 Forged Spec 5 for about say 5.5K with tires. I can sell my stock wheels for 2.5K so now I'm netting 6K. The 6K profit is not worth it considering who really knows the condition of the future car I get. What if I go through all this pain in the a$$ to get a car that has low power, intercooler issues, unseen paint work, interior rattles, etc... when I could have just kept my car. Of course I would like to get 6K in my pocket but I'm not sure it's worth the hassle. Just my opinion. Maybe someone else would have done this. I thought of it long and hard and at the end I just said F-it.

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France. do you know if they have tuned CL 55 before ?? thanks
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That may be so.

But what you've stated is not what I meant in my post. I was pointing out that the European market cars may not be always as well equipped as their U.S. counterpart. And a well equipped U.S. specimen my friend, is pretty desirable to the European customers who probably don't even care about gas prices.

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Europeans get better options than we get. That's common knowledge. So whether you meant gas prices or not your comments were misinformed.
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It's not rocket science to make simple observations that there are plenty of base cars in Europe that do not come fully equipped. Why are you stating that the Europeans get more options? That's not even the point I was trying to make.

Having more options in Europe doesn't mean that most of the buyers there will load up their cars with them.



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Europeans get better options than we get. That's common knowledge. So whether you meant gas prices or not your comments were misinformed.
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It's not rocket science to make simple observations that there are plenty of base cars in Europe that do not come fully equipped. Why are you stating that the Europeans get more options? That's not even the point I was trying to make.

Having more options in Europe doesn't mean that most of the buyers there will load up their cars with them.
We're not talking about base cars, but V12 AMGs.

Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.

I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
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Originally Posted by transferred
We're not talking about base cars, but V12 AMGs.

Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.

I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
This is true. Gas is just nuts there too. More than half the cars are diesels.
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You're not the only one who's been to Europe before buddy.

I was making my points to Larry and trying to tell him that he's made a wise choice. You jumped out of nowhere and criticized my comments. After I corrected you more than a couple of times, you have the audacity to tell me that you are done arguing with me?

Have I ever said cars here are more expensive in the U.S.? What minimum standard feature are you trying to point out for cars here? Is there ever a U.S. CL or S class that did not come with navigation like some of the European ones did?

So what's the point you're trying to accomplish here? Stop bickering with me and just let the guy feel better for being able to keep his car.




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We're not talking about base cars, but V12 AMGs.

Look, cars in the US are a lot cheaper than in Europe. Most of this is taxes. However, manufacturers here can save some of their "lost profits" by keeping our standard features to a minimum.

I worked in Europe in the 90's. I'm done arguing this with you
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You're not the only one who's been to Europe before buddy.

I was making my points to Larry and trying to tell him that he's made a wise choice. You jumped out of nowhere and criticized my comments. After I corrected you more than a couple of times, you have the audacity to tell me that you are done arguing with me?

Have I ever said cars here are more expensive in the U.S.? What minimum standard feature are you trying to point out for cars here? Is there ever a U.S. CL or S class that did not come with navigation like some of the European ones did?

So what's the point you're trying to accomplish here? Stop bickering with me and just let the guy feel better for being able to keep his car.
Where did he criticize you? He pointed out gas was expensive in Europe and you facetiously repeated his phrase "my friend" which he uses often. You were the one who made an entirely off topic post. He's a long time and respected member here with a lot of friends. You, well the first time I heard your name was when you were asking for a wedding carriage. Just try not to go looking for arguments and you'll find this board a better place to be.
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And why are you bringing the thread even more off top topic by commenting about how much you know me?

I never said gas wasn't expensive in Europe to begin with. I used the phrase "my friend" to point out that he was mis-construing my sentences and making them into a completely different meaning that I did not intend to use.

If there's something that he doesn't like about what I said, let him respond with his reasons. There's no need to get too excited on your behalf.

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Where did he criticize you? He pointed out gas was expensive in Europe and you facetiously repeated his phrase "my friend" which he uses often. You were the one who made an entirely off topic post. He's a long time and respected member here with a lot of friends. You, well the first time I heard your name was when you were asking for a wedding carriage. Just try not to go looking for arguments and you'll find this board a better place to be.
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Thank you all that responded. I feel very content with my decision!

I really appreciate all the responses to my initial worry. It made me feel much better that I kept my car.

Jon, Rob, and Carl,

I understand where all you guys are coming from. Just a bit of miscommunication IMO. No big deal. Thanks again for the advice.

Larry
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Originally Posted by Rich8
France. do you know if they have tuned CL 55 before ?? thanks
I know for a fact they tuned a CLS55 before so I know they know the 55 engine. One of the guys at the track I met was running mid 11 sec 1/4 miles with all work done by ASR. His car was totally upgraded however. He had ECU, headers, full exhaust, pully, and throttle body. I would consider RennTech over ASR however. RennTech is like having AMG tune your car. They are the true experts and they have been tuning the 55 engine since it came out. Their upgrades are time tested and well proven. Good luck with whomever you use. Just trying to give you my opinion to dwell on before you make a choice.

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thanks....france.. going to check out asr today... just seems like everybody has renntech around here.. may want to try something different ..
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thanks....france.. going to check out asr today... just seems like everybody has renntech around here.. may want to try something different ..
Please let me know how things turn out. Make sure you get a BEFORE and AFTER dyno on the same machine with the same technician. I use to have a 2003 CL55 AMG and loved it.

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France,Went to ASR today... Spoke to Abid .. took me for a ride on one of his cls there.. very fast for minor upgrades.... but not completly sold yet going to do more research on ASR..
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OUCH.
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OUCH.
Big Larry, as we say up here "shake them haters off"
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France,Went to ASR today... Spoke to Abid .. took me for a ride on one of his cls there.. very fast for minor upgrades.... but not completly sold yet going to do more research on ASR..
Yes, definitely be cautious with your car. You don't want just anyone f-ing with your engine. I'm sure Abid is a smart guy but ASR is not an AMG tuning expert yet. This is why I was suggesting RennTech. Do what you feel is right and good luck. Keep me up to date with your mods and how things are going.

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I wasn't "hating", just a little good natured ribbing......
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I wasn't "hating", just a little good natured ribbing......
your choice to rib in the context of this post is called hating pal
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your choice to rib in the context of this post is called hating pal

Sensitive.........
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
your choice to rib in the context of this post is called hating pal
Thanks for watching my back.
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Originally Posted by Ramsey9000
I wasn't "hating", just a little good natured ribbing......
I assumed you were just f-ing with me. No worries for me, however someone else may get offended when " a little good natured ribbing" occurs to someone you don't know. Many of us on the forum have become friends over time so if it came from one of them it is assumed a joke. When it comes from someone new, it can be taken the wrong way as there are a lot of haters (a-holes) out there. Just my opinion.

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I will consider the paranoia / confusion / subtle undertones before posting in the future.
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I will consider the paranoia / confusion / subtle undertones before posting in the future.
Hahaha. Actually disregard what I said. Just be yourself. I was just saying what I thought might turn some people off but I'll assume you probably are smart enough to know these things. No big deal. Take care.

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