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Crissus 04-02-2013 06:23 PM

Wavetrack might develop a Limited Slip Differential for us...
 
Hi, Wavetrack might develop a LSDifferential for our CL AMG cars if they see that there is interest in it.

Here is what they have just sent me:


Hi Christian,
Of course, we can develop one, but it must make business sense. In truth,
you are the first one to ask that we have noted.
There may be a good market for this car, but so far, we don't know about it.



For what model ?- each is different.

We can make a Wavetrac, but someone would have to commission us to make
them.
We don't have plans to make them for our own range at this point, so a
customer would have to order 30-50 units.
If we have an order for 30+ units, we will make them. Maybe you know a tuner
that has an interest?

We cannot give you a price because we don't have a sample, but estimate
between 1300-1900 USD.

Regards,
Any input from you guys? Are you Interested?
What are the similarities/differences between the 55s and 65s Diffs?

Maybe someone could join forces so we get that thing developed...
Notice the red part also, i cant believe this!

320 dreamer 04-02-2013 06:38 PM

when wavetrac started the build for the slk32 they wanted 20 units. luckily the crossfire also fit and in short order we had 20 deposits. it took close to a yr to finish it due to demand for material and other cars with more potential sales than ours but it did get finished. i believe to date about 50 units have been sold. autotech and unitrax are great folks to work with

Crissus 04-03-2013 06:18 AM

Ok can someone post data about which cars use the same Diffs like the CLs ?
Who knows this?

Quaife-MB 04-04-2013 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Crissus (Post 5600439)
Ok can someone post data about which cars use the same Diffs like the CLs ?
Who knows this?

Just in case you are interested, Quaife already have this version in production...
If anyone is not prepared to wait for others to develop one, either PM me your VIN, or click though our website to send us your enquiry directly.
http://www.birdsauto.com/quaife/sear...ercedes&s=&mi=

Regards, Kevin Bird.

Crissus 04-04-2013 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Quaife-MB (Post 5601720)
Just in case you are interested, Quaife already have this version in production...
If anyone is not prepared to wait for others to develop one, either PM me your VIN, or click though our website to send us your enquiry directly.
http://www.birdsauto.com/quaife/sear...ercedes&s=&mi=

Regards, Kevin Bird.

Hi thats very nice. :-)
Can i order directly from the Motherland UK since i'm in Germany?

Crissus 04-04-2013 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Quaife-MB (Post 5601720)
Just in case you are interested, Quaife already have this version in production...
If anyone is not prepared to wait for others to develop one, either PM me your VIN, or click though our website to send us your enquiry directly.
http://www.birdsauto.com/quaife/sear...ercedes&s=&mi=

Regards, Kevin Bird.

Hi thats very nice. :-)
Can i order directly from the Motherland UK since i'm in Germany?

Quaife-MB 04-04-2013 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Crissus (Post 5601749)
Hi thats very nice. :-)
Can i order directly from the Motherland UK since i'm in Germany?

Of course! We are actually UK based, about 40 miles away from the Quaife factory. What I need is the VIN of your car so we can crosscheck exactly the specification of your car, then we will be able to offer the correct kit of parts.

If you could email me details to quaife@birdsauto.com, or submit your full details through our website, we will send you a formal offer. We may also have some contacts for you with respect to installation, depending on your location in Germany.

Regards, Kevin.

Mercedes22 04-04-2013 08:31 AM

Being in the UK, £ 2000 fitted for my 55 sounds a good deal.

stamper197 04-04-2013 11:23 AM

I would love to get this from you mr Kevin. What other modifications are needed for a CL 55 AMG to install one of these LSD's? Any ECU programing or anything needed other then simply replacing the part?

-Ron

Quaife-MB 04-04-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by stamper197 (Post 5601971)
I would love to get this from you mr Kevin. What other modifications are needed for a CL 55 AMG to install one of these LSD's? Any ECU programing or anything needed other then simply replacing the part?

-Ron

Absolutely no other work to do apart from installing the Quaife. I have heard that some types of LSD can trigger faults in traction control systems, because of the abruptness of the lockup of the clutches.
The Quaife LSDs do not lock abruptly, so the traction contol will not even "see" that anything is different. What you get is more tractive effort before traction control sees any wheelspin, therefore it doesn't trigger anywhere near as often under normal road conditions.

You can drive the car with traction control engaged, or if you want to have some fun, you can disengage it. Link below is to a video of what can be done if you disengage. Maybe a little extreme, but you know what journalists are like!

Regards, Kevin.

Crissus 04-04-2013 02:24 PM

Ok Mr. Bird. Is it really the right one you are offering? People posted here: https://mbworld.org/forums/cl55-amg-...cl55-cl65.html
That the Quaife mostly offered for the CL 55 Kompressor is not fitting.
EDIT: Can you post the "number/description" whatever of the correct Quaife unit so i can check myself?

Also, is it hard to install it in the differential housing? Is this a DIY Job for guy like me who is doing V8 engines? Never had a hand on a Diff though...

Quaife-MB 04-05-2013 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Crissus (Post 5602186)
Ok Mr. Bird. Is it really the right one you are offering? People posted here: https://mbworld.org/forums/cl55-amg-...cl55-cl65.html
That the Quaife mostly offered for the CL 55 Kompressor is not fitting.
EDIT: Can you post the "number/description" whatever of the correct Quaife unit so i can check myself?

Also, is it hard to install it in the differential housing? Is this a DIY Job for guy like me who is doing V8 engines? Never had a hand on a Diff though...

The only place you can check it is on our website. We are preparing the data now, so that Quaife can load it all onto their website, and this should be complete over the next couple of weeks.
We always need the VIN of the car, so we can check which final drive Mercedes installed in your car. This avoids the risk of someone without proper knowledge offering a "CL 55" Quaife differential for a 215 model car to your 216 model car. The model codes currently listed by Quaife do not differentiate between those two cars, which is where the confusion comes from. We will fix that with the new listings.

All Quaife differentials we offer are suitable for installation by a "competent mechanic". If you have built engines, then you definitely qualify!

Regards, Kevin.

Quaife-MB 05-08-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Quaife-MB (Post 5602964)
The only place you can check it is on our website. We are preparing the data now, so that Quaife can load it all onto their website, and this should be complete over the next couple of weeks.
We always need the VIN of the car, so we can check which final drive Mercedes installed in your car. This avoids the risk of someone without proper knowledge offering a "CL 55" Quaife differential for a 215 model car to your 216 model car. The model codes currently listed by Quaife do not differentiate between those two cars, which is where the confusion comes from. We will fix that with the new listings.

All Quaife differentials we offer are suitable for installation by a "competent mechanic". If you have built engines, then you definitely qualify!

Regards, Kevin.

Gentlemen,

The Quaife website has been updated with the current full model listing.

http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/search/...taxonomy%3A267

It's also worthwhile checking their corporate video.

Regards, Kevin.

Crissus 05-08-2013 01:21 PM

Nice! And there it is it seems:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/node/3728

NRL 05-08-2013 03:40 PM

In my case, for the 65:

http://www.quaife.co.uk/node/3730

Take Paypal?

RaceHorse 05-09-2013 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by NRL (Post 5640976)
In my case, for the 65:

http://www.quaife.co.uk/node/3730

Take Paypal?


Group buy pricing?

Quaife-MB 05-10-2013 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by NRL (Post 5640976)
In my case, for the 65:

http://www.quaife.co.uk/node/3730

Take Paypal?

Sorry, we don't. Their charges are too high. If you want to order now, then the only option we have for you is wire transfer. If you can submit your details by hitting the enquiry button on this page, http://www.quaife.co.uk/node/3733 we will send you an offer directly.

We are in discussion with a number of respected USA Mercedes Tuners, and hope that you will soon easily be able to purchase directly from them in the near future, possibly within 6 weeks.

Regards, Kevin.

Quaife-MB 05-10-2013 04:17 AM

Quaife Lsd for CL65
 

Originally Posted by RaceHorse (Post 5642061)
Group buy pricing?

We can't do a group buy, but will release forum offers next month.
I have sent a revised offer which reflects that offer to your gmail address.

Regards, kevin.

radride 05-10-2013 10:51 AM

Whats the price currently for the CL65?

R.K.

Quaife-MB 05-11-2013 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by radride (Post 5642935)
Whats the price currently for the CL65?

R.K.

Prices and contact form here.
http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/search/...my%3A267%2C930

Regards, Kevin.

Petej 05-27-2013 04:38 PM

Has anybody installed one of these yet and what is the feedback?

Quaife-MB 05-28-2013 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by Petej (Post 5660656)
Has anybody installed one of these yet and what is the feedback?

We have done something like 600 Quaife installations here on various cars. Not many on the CL65, I'll grant you, but the effect on the cars is always the same. You get significantly reduced traction control intervention, allowing you finer control of the rear end via the throttle.

All Quaife units work in the same way, so it's not unreasonable to show this video. Note that it's not necessary to switch out the traction control to get significant benefits in traction in everyday use.

I'm pleased to tell you that there is now a formal USA representative for the entire Quaife range of Mercedes Benz Quaife differentials.
A: Kleemann USA - 3455 Fillmore Ridge Hts - Colorado Springs, CO 80907 - USA
T: 719.473.6441 | F: 719.578.0345 | W: www.kleemannusa.com



Regards, Kevin.


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