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Its great AMG is making the CLA all it can be.
If its light, and handles good, it might end up being the most track capable AMG yet and make the other AMG's look like posers.
Excluding the SLS BS of course.
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Bet you the torque is instant
Why?
Go test drive the Kia Optima SX 2.0 turbo 4... zero lag. Amazing really. 274 hp and matching tq
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I am absolutely in love with this car. Obviously interested to drive one and hear more about what the AMG interior options, Carbon Fiber Exterior/Night Styling package options will add to the MSRP, but I believe I may have found my S4 replacement.
FWIW, per the Official Press Release:
Twin-scroll turbochargers
Mercedes-AMG masters the essential challenges concerning the response of small-displacement turbo engines by means of a twin-scroll turbocharger, minimized restrictions in the exhaust system and an innovative injection strategy. The twin-scroll technology makes effective use of exhaust gas back pressure, temperature and momentum to provide a more spontaneous build-up of boost pressure. This results in a quicker build-up of torque from low revs. As a positive side effect, the twin-scroll technology also benefits fuel consumption and exhaust emissions. With a maximum boost pressure of 26.1 psi (1.8 bar), the AMG 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo engine also leads the field in this respect.
Mercedes-AMG masters the essential challenges concerning the response of small-displacement turbo engines by means of a twin-scroll turbocharger, minimized restrictions in the exhaust system and an innovative injection strategy. The twin-scroll technology makes effective use of exhaust gas back pressure, temperature and momentum to provide a more spontaneous build-up of boost pressure. This results in a quicker build-up of torque from low revs. As a positive side effect, the twin-scroll technology also benefits fuel consumption and exhaust emissions. With a maximum boost pressure of 26.1 psi (1.8 bar), the AMG 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo engine also leads the field in this respect.
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That's a bold statement for a car that only makes 355hp and will weigh over 3200 lbs. It's not a slouch but it will be no rockstar on the track either. Saying that it's the best AMG short of the SLS BS is laughable. It won't keep up with a pedestrian C63 AMG much less any BS ever made. Regardless it looks like it got beat with the ugly stick... I'm not a fan of the duck bill trunk lines at all.
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The raw hp numbers are similar but the engines couldn't be more different.
The C32 is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds mag times... This car is est 4.5 from MB... typically they undervalue their cars (see 55 amgs, 63 amgs, 550s, etc).
I am thinking the car will do 4.3 or 4.4 stock... with a tune its probably 4 seconds flat 0-60... for $50K, new AMG, they hit a homerun. I got rid of my CLS63 because the interior looked like an antique... This will be my new daily driver when it comes out AND its larger than the current w204
BTW the 2013 C63 with the new 5.5 TT engine .. MB claims 4.2 0-60...
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
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Not even close. The DCT is about 100000000x better than what the C32 had and also awd is huge as you noted.
The raw hp numbers are similar but the engines couldn't be more different.
The C32 is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds mag times... This car is est 4.5 from MB... typically they undervalue their cars (see 55 amgs, 63 amgs, 550s, etc).
I am thinking the car will do 4.3 or 4.4 stock... with a tune its probably 4 seconds flat 0-60... for $50K, new AMG, they hit a homerun. I got rid of my CLS63 because the interior looked like an antique... This will be my new daily driver when it comes out AND its larger than the current w204
BTW the 2013 C63 with the new 5.5 TT engine .. MB claims 4.2 0-60...
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
The raw hp numbers are similar but the engines couldn't be more different.
The C32 is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds mag times... This car is est 4.5 from MB... typically they undervalue their cars (see 55 amgs, 63 amgs, 550s, etc).
I am thinking the car will do 4.3 or 4.4 stock... with a tune its probably 4 seconds flat 0-60... for $50K, new AMG, they hit a homerun. I got rid of my CLS63 because the interior looked like an antique... This will be my new daily driver when it comes out AND its larger than the current w204
BTW the 2013 C63 with the new 5.5 TT engine .. MB claims 4.2 0-60...
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
The real deal will be 1/4 mile times and i forsee high 12s @ 110-112mph which is slightly better than a C32. I dont see this car faster than the current C63.
At 26psi i dont see how much more a tune can produce. I would like to see how the the twin scroll works in this setup
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That's a bold statement for a car that only makes 355hp and will weigh over 3200 lbs. It's not a slouch but it will be no rockstar on the track either. Saying that it's the best AMG short of the SLS BS is laughable. It won't keep up with a pedestrian C63 AMG much less any BS ever made. Regardless it looks like it got beat with the ugly stick... I'm not a fan of the duck bill trunk lines at all.
On a twisty track, it should do very well, with AWD, SMG and less weight than other AMG models.
Not saying its better than other AMG, but it should be a very potent drivers car.
With tunes and mods it will be decent at the drags too.
I won't comment on it's looks or the throttle response of its high strung 2.0T engine.
However, if it performs as I'm thinking, you will start seeing more AMG's at track days.
I think it's a good addition to the AMG line-up.
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Not even close. The DCT is about 100000000x better than what the C32 had and also awd is huge as you noted.
The raw hp numbers are similar but the engines couldn't be more different.
The C32 is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds mag times... This car is est 4.5 from MB... typically they undervalue their cars (see 55 amgs, 63 amgs, 550s, etc).
I am thinking the car will do 4.3 or 4.4 stock... with a tune its probably 4 seconds flat 0-60... for $50K, new AMG, they hit a homerun. I got rid of my CLS63 because the interior looked like an antique... This will be my new daily driver when it comes out AND its larger than the current w204
BTW the 2013 C63 with the new 5.5 TT engine .. MB claims 4.2 0-60...
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
The raw hp numbers are similar but the engines couldn't be more different.
The C32 is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds mag times... This car is est 4.5 from MB... typically they undervalue their cars (see 55 amgs, 63 amgs, 550s, etc).
I am thinking the car will do 4.3 or 4.4 stock... with a tune its probably 4 seconds flat 0-60... for $50K, new AMG, they hit a homerun. I got rid of my CLS63 because the interior looked like an antique... This will be my new daily driver when it comes out AND its larger than the current w204
BTW the 2013 C63 with the new 5.5 TT engine .. MB claims 4.2 0-60...
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
Only one thing though, the CLA is not larger than the current C-Class, it is actually smaller inside, especially in the back seat.
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Not even close. The DCT is about
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
FROM MBUSA:
2013 C63 AMG ... 5.5-liter biturbo V-8; Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT automatic; Performance: 518 hp, 516 lb-ft, 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds
The trans in the new CLA45 will be better than the current offerings in the 2013 models across the line. The w205/ new S class, etc. will likely use the 7 speed DCT
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See above. However i read the C Class transmission will be made by ZF as opposed to a in house unit. Maybe they will make a stick shift for the new C63? ZF has built some pretty tough trannys before for some hardcore performance models.
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Having previously owned an Evo, I was really planning on moving to a 6 or 8 cyl...but this car is definitely tempting.
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I believe the engine bay is 3 inches longer so it can fit the 6.2. I also think the front and rear bumpers are bigger.
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Btw for anyone considering it, the car is extremely small inside (way smaller than a W204 inside), and feels a little cheap (but still nicer than evos n stis), but otherwise it was pretty nice.
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