clk or really 2dr e-class
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clk or really 2dr e-class
Doesn't the clk just replace the 300ce or e 320 cab. I mean I love the car but didn't they just change the name on it. Back in the late 80's there was the 2 dr 300ce then in the early 90's they named it the e-320 cabriolet. Still a 2dr convertible. Now they call it the clk 320 , 430 etc. Any comments on this???
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Re: clk or really 2dr e-class
Originally posted by V12BIGBODY
Doesn't the clk just replace the 300ce or e 320 cab. I mean I love the car but didn't they just change the name on it. Back in the late 80's there was the 2 dr 300ce then in the early 90's they named it the e-320 cabriolet. Still a 2dr convertible. Now they call it the clk 320 , 430 etc. Any comments on this???
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Doesn't the clk just replace the 300ce or e 320 cab. I mean I love the car but didn't they just change the name on it. Back in the late 80's there was the 2 dr 300ce then in the early 90's they named it the e-320 cabriolet. Still a 2dr convertible. Now they call it the clk 320 , 430 etc. Any comments on this???
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e- class or clk??
Yes your right it's not on the same chassis but if it didn't replace the 300ce or e-320 cab what did?? If you pay close attention to both the cars in 98, 99, 00 the e 320 and the clk 320 they share the same engine the same front end the interior is almost identicle. To me the car just seems to be a modernized version of the 300ce. Same chassis or not. I'm not trying to knock it, that's just my observation.
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The CLK is based on the C class chassis, but it is my opinion that it was made to look like an E coupe.
All of the new Benz cars are looking too much alike....the 209 definitely does look like a bigger coupe version of the C class sedan.
All of the new Benz cars are looking too much alike....the 209 definitely does look like a bigger coupe version of the C class sedan.
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So what is it then?? It's based on the c chassis but completly designed to look like a newer e coupe. Another question for you are they planning a 03 or 04 real brand new E class coupe? If so I'm interested. My ml is getting stale I would like to try out a new E but only in a 2dr coupe.
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....The CLK both W208 and 209 are not really modernized versions of the 300CE. The 300CE even in the *0's and early 90's sold for over $70,000 because it was based on the e-class platform. As years went by, it was projected that the car will cost $80-90,000. As a result MB stopped production and embarked on producing a less expensive coupe, hence the w208 and now w209. They are both based on the C-class platform with some modifications. That is why the CLK started out at about half the price of what a new 300Ce would have cost. The CL was created on a an S-class platform and represent the up-market coup that the #00Ce would have been. So there is really no direct replacement of the 300CE.
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Theres a thread over on the New E class forum with some pics of the new e, take a look at the first pic of a black E , now tell me where our CLK went. MB is probably are going to come out with a true E class coupe, which is proabably going to replace the new 209 clk as there midrange coupe , which would probably go against the new 6 series coupe that BMW is going to come out with. Lets face the facts here boys, the w209 just moved down a notch as far as where it stood in the line up. I forget the web address but that mbspy website has some pics of what a two door E class would look like. Everybody that I have showed the pics of the 209 to said that the new clk looks horrible, which I also hate to admit think also. Everybody with a 208 that doesnt like the new 209 should sit back and relax and just wait, I think we'll get something that suits our tastes.
Look at this pic.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=16159
Look at this pic.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=16159
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..............I don't like the W209 either. I was simply stating factual information that neither the w209 nor the w208 are based on the E-class platform. An E-class based MB coupe will be extraordinarily expensive, approaching the price of the CL. The current W209 CLK 500 is already over $60,000. Whether or not Mb builts an E-class based coupe, I don't think the CLK is going away because the the e-class coupe will be too expensive.
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Thank you that was some pretty good info. But I already saw the new e-class, nice but not my style as someonelse pointed out all the new mb's are starting to look alike at a first glance the new e looks like the c. If i got it right the clk did replace the 300ce just on a different chassis right? And it became more affordable.
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Your the first person Ive heard say that a C class looks like the new E.
To be perfectly honest with you the rear of the new e is whats turning me away. If they do come out with an elk id only get it if the rear tail lights were changed.
To be perfectly honest with you the rear of the new e is whats turning me away. If they do come out with an elk id only get it if the rear tail lights were changed.
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Yea I'm not to fond of the rear either. Well those pics I looked at at first glance it definitly resembles the new c. By the way what part of Long Island do you live. I just moved to Florida from Mannhattan and we had a house on LI, in a small town called water mill. We loved it such a small world right?
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Ya, I live in Lynbrook, but grew up in Valley Stream. Water Mill thats deep in the Island. Im pretty much border line queens. So I was dropping my son off at his babysitters and low and behold, I saw a Silver 209 on the belt parkway this morning, right by JFK. Goddamn that thing is ugly to top it off the chick driving it was ugly too. It actually looked worse in person than in pics. I think Karl K was right when he said that our 208 's are destined to be classics. 
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Why were the old E-class (300CE's) so expensive back in the early 90's? even the CLK55 cost only $65,000 now. I've seen the E-class coupes and and rode in them before but can't see what justifies an 80,000$ price tag...
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The 209 is a schizo. I can hear it talking to itself..."Let's see - I have frightful Mr. Peanut eyes like my sister the C, a butt end and profile like my poor cousin the Volvo C-70, and a smile like my rich big brother, the CL. Hell,... will somebody PLEASE tell me what I'm trying to be. Verdict - I think I'm a design disaster on four wheels. But at east I have a good family name."
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Why were the old E-class (300CE's) so expensive back in the early 90's? even the CLK55 cost only $65,000 now. I've seen the E-class coupes and and rode in them before but can't see what justifies an 80,000$ price tag...
........The chasis from which a car is built pretty much determines the price range of the car. building an Mb coupe on a C-class platform rather than E-class platform brought the price down. The CL for instance is a great car, but why is it $90,000? Afterall, all the luxo features in the car can be had in a clk at a fraction of the Price.
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........The chasis from which a car is built pretty much determines the price range of the car. building an Mb coupe on a C-class platform rather than E-class platform brought the price down. The CL for instance is a great car, but why is it $90,000? Afterall, all the luxo features in the car can be had in a clk at a fraction of the Price.
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i posted something similar to this topic before.
It is all about the market stratgies by MB. doesn't not matter if it is the W208 or W209, the CLK is in the market filling in for the spot which once was occupied by the E-coupe. The E-coupe was much more expensive to build. If i remember correctly, the E-coupe was priced higher than the 4 door E-class back in the day. No one was buying them because they were so expensive.
The CLK, you can say it is a 2 door E-class. It uses the C chassi because it is cheaper to build. Also, look at the model line up in the U.S. or through out Europe, the E and the CLK has virtually the same engine line up except the Diesel, which can only be found on the sedan.
It is all about the market stratgies by MB. doesn't not matter if it is the W208 or W209, the CLK is in the market filling in for the spot which once was occupied by the E-coupe. The E-coupe was much more expensive to build. If i remember correctly, the E-coupe was priced higher than the 4 door E-class back in the day. No one was buying them because they were so expensive.
The CLK, you can say it is a 2 door E-class. It uses the C chassi because it is cheaper to build. Also, look at the model line up in the U.S. or through out Europe, the E and the CLK has virtually the same engine line up except the Diesel, which can only be found on the sedan.
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Originally posted by woodyww
The 209 is a schizo. I can hear it talking to itself..."Let's see - I have frightful Mr. Peanut eyes like my sister the C, a butt end and profile like my poor cousin the Volvo C-70, and a smile like my rich big brother, the CL. Hell,... will somebody PLEASE tell me what I'm trying to be. Verdict - I think I'm a design disaster on four wheels. But at east I have a good family name."
The 209 is a schizo. I can hear it talking to itself..."Let's see - I have frightful Mr. Peanut eyes like my sister the C, a butt end and profile like my poor cousin the Volvo C-70, and a smile like my rich big brother, the CL. Hell,... will somebody PLEASE tell me what I'm trying to be. Verdict - I think I'm a design disaster on four wheels. But at east I have a good family name."
If you want to talk about design disaster, talk about the ML. The road and wind noise is annoying and on the noisy side. The material used in the car is still cheap even after the facelift. The only two thing the gets the thumb up are the seats and the all-wheel-drive system, which even only on tire has traction it will still drive you foward. If the ML is trying to act more like a car, i think that the BMW X5 did a much better job.
BTW Volvo is now own by Ford.
How can C70 be a cousin of the CLK if Diamler never own any part of the Volvo corp. that was not a very good analogy
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THeres no way you can mistake a new SL for a C class. a 209, I pretty much see them everyday, in the form of a C class.
lets see, that's not even funny because the SL has the peanut shape headlight too
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Originally posted by dtclk320
. THeres no way you can mistake a new SL for a C class. a 209, I pretty much see them everyday, in the form of a C class.
. THeres no way you can mistake a new SL for a C class. a 209, I pretty much see them everyday, in the form of a C class.
especially with the hugh front grill that has the star on it.
