eee

They replied and said they would need at least ten other people interested in charging their 320's to make the project possible. Is there anyone interested besides me?

Mark Pedersen

Tell HPS I said good afternoon. I'm still waiting for about 10 replies from him for questions asked on this forum.

LowRydeR

Didn't they messed up timster's 55? If I were you I would just go with the kleemann s/c.

-Bruce

xyzpl

YOU still want HPS after all the fiascal?!?!?!!?

I've already given up and saving my money for Kleeman....

and I don't think you will find anyone on this board who will be interested in HPS anymore...

Mach430

Go for a system that runs strong, flawless, and Mercedes-like...
Contact Kleemann, and talk to them.

You will not find 10 people here who want a system from HPS.

Timster

ViKTORiOUS

HPS SUCKS! DON'T GO FOR THEM, THEY STILL HAVENT RETURNED ANY OF MY MESSAGES REGARDING THEIR SYSTEMS. THEY ARE CROOKS!

My advice is with the majority, the best bar none is Kleemann. They seem most reputible. Trust us on this one, take it from Timsters misfortune, and avoid the mistake. Timster, hows the car doing? Are you going to drop in a supercharger anytime soon?

tango

damn... how evil!!!!... they want to mess up 10 more cars!!

Timster

Thanks for asking!
The car runs so much better now. It seams to be burning a little oil. I'm not sure if it is related or not? I'm keeping a close watch on it.
As for adding another S/C, it's doubtful. If I do, it be a Kleeman. You know the old saying you get what you pay for.
Later,
Tim

tango

good luck timster..

honestly where has HPS been?! he used to reply every single day... now it seems likes gone to mars or something

eee

Thanks for all the replies, I guess HPS will be a no-go. I thought there was something odd about just slapping a charger on the side of the motor like that and boosting the air b4 the fuel system. No intercooler or anything. Hell, I could replicate there setup. I contacted them and they said no modifications were made to the injectors or ECU...this seemed odd that the car would automatically adjust to all the new pressure being present.

I didn't want to have to spend 10k on a charger, but I guess there is no way around it if I want and sort of reliability. KLEEMANN it is.

Thanks guys/gals.

Mach430

They said before that they do update the ECU.

eee

They cahnged then, cause my brother was going to have his c43 done and my 320. They said there is no change to fuel system or ecu. Oh well, don't have to worry bout it anymore. I will go thru evosprort as soon as I can collect a third of the value of my car to have the procedure done.

mrdrew

Sleestack

A) How did that person get to drive Timster's car for 700 miles if he doen't work for HPS?

B) His seat of the pants evaluation doesn't mean crap (especially if he has never driven a Kleemann). Dynos don't lie.

C) If i recall, Timster was very careful not to make libelous statements against HPS and gave HPS numerous opportunities to explain themselves on this board.

D) Timster owns a CLK55 and (I assume) paid for his HPS upon delivery. It doesn't really make sense that he would run the risk of screwing up his car and shell out the bucks for the HPS in the hopes of getting some money back.

E) I really don't care if you are 45, 35, African-American, Chinese, etc. your ability to put forth a reasonable, persuasive argument is on par with my 3 year old nephew.

F) HPS might eventually have a good product but the way they handled Timster's situation on this board I doubt that they will ever be good businessmen.

G) Thank god for Kleemann.

Petie

oh so it felt like there was no loss in power? well i would hope not, its supercharger.....

the fact is, they couldnt produce what they promised, end of story, it doesnt matter how close they were, they didnt do what they said, period.

does timster know you drove his car for 700 miles??? i wouldnt let someone that doesnt even work for HPS drive my car for 700 miles.

so youre a 40 year old black male? great, i dont care, i didnt ask what color you were, why did you tell us? making an issue out of something that is not an issue at all, typical....

this is quite a persuasive arguement youve put together here.....oh wait no its not at all, we saw the dynos chief, why dont you look at them, then tell me again why Timsters car was just fine?

oh and what does having an E430 as a loaner have to do with not coming through with what was promised, and then acting like a 4 year old on this forum when questions were asked....

Moderator, please check the IP, i have a hunch that this is our good friend HPS back to stir up some more trouble, and if that is the case, how sad that he didnt learn his lesson the first or second time.....if you are not HPS, how much is he paying you?

Petie

youre secret is out buddy, you are HPS, you are the MARKETING DIRECTOR for HPS, we nailed you the last time you tried this crap, why are you trying it again, i was so right guessing that it was you, save us some time and take your childish managing of a decent company elsewhere

YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL, YOU RUN A HUGE COMPANY, AND THIS IS HOW YOU MARKET YOUR PRODUCT?????? ARE YOU SERIOUS????? GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mach430

I have personally been in contact with Timster for quite some time, and he has never once asked for something for free. In fact, he just asked to buy a windshield banner for when he goes to the track. He is offering to pay for what I am providing for free. Your attack on Timster's character is unfounded, as is your defense of YOUR OWN product.

eurorides420

This my friend is libelous in itself. Timster has provided Dyno proof of his complaints, and has even left many off the boards. Yet, you go and insult him and his credibility, calling him a scam. Hate to tell you, but now Timster has grounds to sue you and a company.

Please stop insulting MBWorld users by pretending to be someone you are not. I think I speak for the majority of them when I say that we are quite sick of it. Whether you are HPS himself, the 19 year old web designer, or a 35 year old African American (which btw, could still be HPS...), or the 65 year old senior citizen looking to rekindle his youth on benzworld; you write the same and lie the same.

Petie

im sorry, i made a big mistake, i must apologize, you may not be HPS.....






but guess what, we all know that you DO work for him, and this we KNOW for a fact, take a hike.....



*********WARNING*********MRDREW WORKS FOR HPS!!!!!*******WARNING********

mrdrew

Mach430

We've seen rear wheel data, from a real dyno, not a Microsoft Excel drawing! 40hp gains on a 55, and an a/f of over 14! That's not very impressive to me.

The bottom line is not that Timster is a scam, it is that you and your aliases are attempting to scam the entire Mercedes community with false promises and deceptive marketing. Please take your lies elsewhere.

Petie

learn how to use the quote function properly please, i cant figure out what eee said and what you said, thanks.

as for the "facts" that you speak of, ok what dyno charts??? weve seen the dynos, not the MS Excel ones that HPS has on their website, but Tim's REAL RWHP dyno charts, check the forums a little closer, weve all seen them. If you are so "in the know" here, why dont you post some more of those MS excel dynos, they are oh so pretty.

at no point did i intend to insult you, just pointing out the amount of frivilous information you put in your original post. how old you are and what color you are has NOTHING to do with the point you were trying to make.

what are you trying to accomplish here? if you really thought you could leave a message like the one you left and have everyone go kiss HPS's *** (which i know is what HPS asked you to do, come in here and clean up the mess their marketing director caused) then youre terribly mistaken. Members of this board respect Tim and what he brings to this community, some members know him personally and like him a lot, hes an honest guy that wanted horsepower added to his car, HPS obviously didnt provide what they promised, end of story.

If you come into a community and start bashing a respected member of the community, you can expect for people to act exactly as they have towards you, i dont know what more you could have expected.

Unless youve got something more then accusations backed by nothing, please do everyone here a favor and add to the community or leave. Tim has provided Dyno Charts to PROVE the gains, or lack of gains i mean, on his car, what do you have? accusations, thats it....

Brandon @ Kleemann

The last thing anyone wants at this point is MY input Im sure..... but when has that ever stopped me?

But let me get this straight- the last story I was able to piece together is that Timster was not trying to get anything for free- on the contrary- it was HPS trying to shove a non-performing, MIL laden, poor driving POS down HIS throat. Why should anyone PAY for that?

HPS has the charger back as best as I can tell from this forum- has money changed hands? HPS cannot expect to do R&D on a customers car at their expense and then demand payment when it dosent perform as promised.

BTW- I have a 1,000HP C230 and the dyno to prove it- if I could only figure out how to get the "b" column to stack correctly I could give you the XL file.

twboy

I have no heard of HPS until recently, because i wasn't really thinking about doing anythign to my engine. But as I looked into engines mods, i came across HPS on the other forum. They said HPS is horrible etc....


but i guess with all these replies here, that would support the statement that I got from the other forum.

gotta be careful these days on where to spend your $$$