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Old May 12, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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Transmission Coolant Lines

I went to my indie to do the ATF pan flush and he removed the bottom panel, he found there were some oil on the panel. He then found out that the upper and lower coolant lines were "wet, sweating".

He aborted the pan flush and said I should replace the 2 coolant lines. He asked me to get the 2 coolant lines and he would replace them for 2 hours labour. Is this reasonable?

I called the dealership and both parts are back-ordered and they will have to order from Germany.

Part numbers: 209-270-0696 and 209-270-0796.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 11:17 AM
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Funny. I went to the local dealership to order the parts and talked to the mechanics. He told me he never changed the transmission coolant lines for a CLK. Maybe they never serviced a 12 years old CLK!
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Old May 13, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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My guess would be... uncommon problem.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by merceBENZ
My guess would be... uncommon problem.
Not sure anything is uncommon for a 12 years old car. It has 220K miles!

I did look at it. Both lines were rusted and "sweaty".
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Old May 13, 2016 | 02:56 PM
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Not sure anything is uncommon for a 12 years old car. It has 220K miles!

I did look at it. Both lines were rusted and "sweaty".
Maybe snow salt caused it?
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Old May 13, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by merceBENZ
Maybe snow salt caused it?
Possibly but these transmission parts are all covered by the bottom panel.

Maybe age of the car or just normal wear-and-tear. I have been driving this car daily for 12 years!

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Old May 14, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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"Sweaty" makes no sense on the transmission cooler makes no sense! Humidity in the air condenses on objects that are cooler than the ambient temperature (the way a cold drink glass sweats), but the transmission lines should be hot, even the return line from the cooler will be warmer than ambient temperatures. Are you sure you aren't looking at the AC refrigerant lines as they enter the condenser?
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Old May 14, 2016 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
"Sweaty" makes no sense on the transmission cooler makes no sense! Humidity in the air condenses on objects that are cooler than the ambient temperature (the way a cold drink glass sweats), but the transmission lines should be hot, even the return line from the cooler will be warmer than ambient temperatures. Are you sure you aren't looking at the AC refrigerant lines as they enter the condenser?
Yes, I was wondering about this as well.
The indie to.d me they were the transmission coolant lines and showed me that both lines were rusted and sweaty. He specializes in Sprinters which share the same 722.6 transmission. Actually, I see a lot of MB in his garage in the past 1-2 years.
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Old May 14, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
"Sweaty" makes no sense on the transmission cooler makes no sense! Humidity in the air condenses on objects that are cooler than the ambient temperature (the way a cold drink glass sweats), but the transmission lines should be hot, even the return line from the cooler will be warmer than ambient temperatures. Are you sure you aren't looking at the AC refrigerant lines as they enter the condenser?
Yes, I was wondering about this as well.

The indie told me they were the transmission coolant lines and showed me that both lines were rusted and sweaty. He specializes in Sprinters which share the same 722.6 transmission. Actually, I see a lot of MB in his garage in the past 1-2 years.
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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The 2 cooling lines were replaced this afternoon. Together with the pan flush, it took 2.5 hours. 4 litres MB ATF were used. Also checked the 13-pin pilot bushing, it was OK (dry).

Because of the ATF change, the car is now super smooth.

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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mis3
The 2 cooling lines were replaced this afternoon. Together with the pan flush, it took 2.5 hours. 4 litres MB ATF were used. Also checked the 13-pin pilot bushing, it was OK (dry).

Because of the ATF change, the car is now super smooth.
That's good to hear and definitely an awesome feel.

How much did that entire job cost you?
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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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That's good to hear and definitely an awesome feel.
How much did that entire job cost you?
Parts: $357 (2 cooling lines (with 4 seal pins), 4L ATF, pan gasket, tax)
Labour: $240

So, about $600 in Canadian funds. Cost of parts includes 15% discount.

One note is I did pan flush twice and they both took in 3.5L This time it took full 4L, because of the cooling lines.

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Parts: $357 (2 cooling lines (with 4 seal pins), 4L ATF, pan gasket, tax)
Labour: $240

So, about $600 in Canadian funds. Cost of parts includes 15% discount.

One note is I did pan flush twice and they both took in 3.5L This time it took full 4L, because of the cooling lines.
Yikes! I don't like to remember how expensive repairing an MB in Canada was. The conductor plate on my 03 CLK 320 went bad when I lived in Canada and it cost me $1,100 whereas here in Lebanon it's a $300 job.

When I changed ATF myself, I let it drain all night and I had 4.4L in the container pan by the morning.

This was the difference:
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Old Jun 19, 2016 | 02:56 AM
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The work was performed by an indie. If I get this fixed in the Mb dealership, it would be more than $1,000.

Not sure why, MB parts are so much more expensive in Canada than US. Unfortunately US online stores do not usually ship to Canada.
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The work was performed by an indie. If I get this fixed in the Mb dealership, it would be more than $1,000.

Not sure why, MB parts are so much more expensive in Canada than US. Unfortunately US online stores do not usually ship to Canada.
Yeah I remember that. I was lucky by having my brother work in the US and live in Canada so that's how I used to get all the parts and fluids for cheap.
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