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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Please post pictures when your done Frisco. I would like to see what wire you tapped into for the positive wire. I tapped into the same wire that 500 Club for the positive and tried just about every screw there was and still not getting any power for the V1.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Sorry, I didn't get to taking that picture over the weekend. I grounded mine to a screw on the right/passenger side of the opening for the overhead console; pull out the console and look up inside the opening and you'll see a single screw that is tapped into one of the structural pieces for the roof. My problem with power cutting out is pretty simple - I just tried to tap into a wire that's live only when the car is on (one of the wires for the garage opener buttons), but it's not big enough and isn't getting good contact. I'm just going to tap into one of the other larger gauge wires and will post pics when I do.
Frisco,

It seems to me your overhead console different than my car. Any idea how to open up and steal a power to hot wire the V1?

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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This is an excellent write-up and really neat way to hard wire a radar detector. And I did it on my 2005 C230.
The problem however was that I started seeing some strange activities in the car afterwards. The reaction for the automatic dimming of the left rearview mirror slowed down and the moon roof started loosing synchronization twice a weak. When I tried to close the moon roof it would close and then bounce back half open. If I closed it and held the button close for a second, it would get fixed, but not for long. So during the regular A service, I removed the detector and told the dealer about the problem. Dealer checked it and said they tested it and it showed an error in one of the tests, so they replaced the whole overhead unit. Now. This all could be a big coincidence, and it could have been, but being an engineer, I knew that tapping the detector to the extremely fragile “grey and blue” wire, which is the only one in the overhead unit hot on ignition, would alter some of the circuits in the relatively complex overhead unit. And I believe it did break something in my car.
So recently with a help of a friend, I hardwired it again, but this time using a transistor. So the “grey and blue” wire is used just as a switch to open the transistor and the real wire, which gives the power to the radar detector, is the big "red and blue" wire, which I believe is used in some power circuit like the moon roof motor.
My radar detector is Passport 8500 X50. Will write again after some time to tell how it goes this time.

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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I haven't had that problem, at least that I'm aware of. The sunroof problem seems to be common with people in the forum, and the whole drive motor assembly on mine was replaced under warranty right after I bought the car. It has been working fine ever since and doesn't seem to have electrical issues with the radar detector but perhaps I should look a little closer.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Frisco
I haven't had that problem, at least that I'm aware of. The sunroof problem seems to be common with people in the forum, and the whole drive motor assembly on mine was replaced under warranty right after I bought the car. It has been working fine ever since and doesn't seem to have electrical issues with the radar detector but perhaps I should look a little closer.
Frisco,
This could very well be a problem with 2005 C230 only, or the power consumption of my radar could be higher than the V1, or this all could have been a coincidence where the time I noticed the defects in the car was the same time I installed the detector. I am just sharing my experience.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nikita
This is an excellent write-up and really neat way to hard wire a radar detector. And I did it on my 2005 C230.
The problem however was that I started seeing some strange activities in the car afterwards. The reaction for the automatic dimming of the left rearview mirror slowed down and the moon roof started loosing synchronization twice a weak. When I tried to close the moon roof it would close and then bounce back half open. If I closed it and held the button close for a second, it would get fixed, but not for long. So during the regular A service, I removed the detector and told the dealer about the problem. Dealer checked it and said they tested it and it showed an error in one of the tests, so they replaced the whole overhead unit. Now. This all could be a big coincidence, and it could have been, but being an engineer, I knew that tapping the detector to the extremely fragile “grey and blue” wire, which is the only one in the overhead unit hot on ignition, would alter some of the circuits in the relatively complex overhead unit. And I believe it did break something in my car.
So recently with a help of a friend, I hardwired it again, but this time using a transistor. So the “grey and blue” wire is used just as a switch to open the transistor and the real wire, which gives the power to the radar detector, is the big "red and blue" wire, which I believe is used in some power circuit like the moon roof motor.
My radar detector is Passport 8500 X50. Will write again after some time to tell how it goes this time.

Has anyone measured the voltage off the big "red and blue" wire????
The V1's input rating is 12-16 Volts.

I recently hardwired my V1 to the "red and blue" wire, int the overhead consult, but the V1 gets PRETTY WARM during operation. I am concerned that the voltage from the "red and blue" wire may be more than 16 Volts.

Does the V1 normally run pretty warm????

~rick
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Great guide! I just followed this guide and hardwired my V1 into my 07 CLK550. After the install, my sunroof immediately had a problem. It would automatically open all of the way, but would only move a few inches at a time when I tried to close it. I just assume that the radar detector is drawing too much power and interfering with some of the other electronics, but I'm not too worried about it.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kevblah
Great guide! I just followed this guide and hardwired my V1 into my 07 CLK550. After the install, my sunroof immediately had a problem. It would automatically open all of the way, but would only move a few inches at a time when I tried to close it. I just assume that the radar detector is drawing too much power and interfering with some of the other electronics, but I'm not too worried about it.
Danger Will Robinson. I'd measure the current on the circuit. If you don't have VOM, see if the sunroof works fine if the VI is off. If the answer is yes the VI is drawing too much power and I wouldn't run the V1 on that circuit. Cooking a sub-harness is pretty pricey. Be careful.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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29.99... install at best buy.. super easy.haha
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fusion2007
29.99... install at best buy.. super easy.haha
Where'd they run the power from? And is your sunroof malfunctioning?
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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29.99... install at best buy.. super easy.haha
I just got done spending 5 hours un-screwing a Sirius install that they screwed up. I wouldn't let them work on anything nicer than a Jeep and that's a reach.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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i had mine wired into my cigarette lighter and have had no issues.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mk4mike
i had mine wired into my cigarette lighter and have had no issues.
and where did you mounted your radar ? any pics ?

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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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i had mine wired into my cigarette lighter and have had no issues.
i tried to do that but i couldnt get the wood trim around the shifter piece to come off.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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the wood trim just pulls up....not to hard but use alittle muscle
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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the wood trim just pulls up....not to hard but use alittle muscle
im just afraid i'll break it
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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you wont trust me....be gentle but be firm at the same time lol
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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you wont trust me....be gentle but be firm at the same time lol
thats what she said! lol
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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and where did you mounted your radar ? any pics ?

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I found that the suction cups dont work, so i opted to use my passenger sunvisor with the clip that comes with the v1. If you position the clip the wrong way round, i.e clip if so that the clip is visible you can get it into a good visable position for the driver. Only problem is that if i passenger gets in your car and pulls the visor down, it will make the v1 drop as it pushes the v1off the clip.

I will try to post pics later, as i know my desciption is a little hard to understand.
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I found that the suction cups dont work, so i opted to use my passenger sunvisor with the clip that comes with the v1. If you position the clip the wrong way round, i.e clip if so that the clip is visible you can get it into a good visable position for the driver. Only problem is that if i passenger gets in your car and pulls the visor down, it will make the v1 drop as it pushes the v1off the clip.

I will try to post pics later, as i know my desciption is a little hard to understand.
i have not had a problem with my suction cups for the 2 years ive owned various valentine ones. if you just wash the suction cup with a little soap water and breathe hard onto it to build up moisture, it'll great a strong suction that should last....pretty much forever (except maybe when its below zero)

also, the inoperability of the passenger sunvisor would be a problem for anyone who has girlfriends/wives/hookers
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New to the forum and MB. I just hard wired a v1 in my wifes glc300. I used the fuse panel on he left side of the dash. It had a blank switched power slot. I just plugged in a spade connector and ran the concealed display to the steering column. The V1 is suctioned cupped to the top left of the windshield. Works well. I hope to learn a lot on here. Really nice driving car.
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 06:03 PM
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I had posted a thread a while ago, but I guess it's no longer available. Anyway, here are some pics.





As you can see, on the left side of the console the blue/gray thin wire is hot only with ignition on. I too, spent a couple of hours with a voltmeter to find it. Hope this helps
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blue/gray thin wire is hot even when car is turned off and locked.
still looking for the wire that is hot when ignition is on..

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