sometimes doesn't start, stalls while driving
Symptoms:
1 out of 20 startups of the car, I turn the key to position 1, 2 and all looks normal but when I turn it to position 3 the car does not start, and shows only the same as it would remain in position 2 (dash lights on). No sound whatsoever. Yesterday I tried holding the key in pos.3 for a few more seconds and the dash lights started blinking for a couple seconds and then turned off. I have reinserted the key and car started normally.
Another symptom, which is more serious, is when I'm driving on a highway, for a longer period of time (never happened within 1st hour of driving yet), the dash lights come up (like in a position two ignition) and it looks like car restarts or something. Once the speedometer gauge dropped to 0 and then went back to 100 kph (60mph) because I was driving at that speeds. A bit scary.
Mind to note that this usually happens when I slow down = for example from 140 to 100kph and I let go off the throttle for a moment.
Once the car even stalled when I was driving on the highway again and slowed down to stop at the gas station. All dash lights on, and car stalled at +-5kph. I reinserted the key and car didn't want to start on a first try, reinserted the key and started normally. After that all was OK for the rest of the drive.
It is weird, because this never happens when I have tempomat on, or when the car is under load - always when slowing down from higher speed.
I'm no expert so it's just a wild guess so don't laugh ath this
but can this be a voltage regulator issue? Alternator? EIS-EZS? MAF sensor? Fuel pump?My thoughts are that maybe symptom n.1 can be caused by incorrect function of the voltage regulator, maybe causing not enought power for the car start up initiation.
Symptom n.2 then intermittently somehow delivering too much voltage causing some intermittent power outage or drop or some troubles for the alternator?
I have no idea how to diagnose this and it seems like Diagnostics doesn't show any errors.
Any ideas are welcome and appreciated.
So enough of this vision of your happy future..... The cutting out and erratic starting fault is sounding like the miniature amplifier circuit in the Crankshaft Position Sensor starting to break down. It doesn't always log enough faults to kick of a MIL on the dashboard. It's not expensive to replace and a known failure on older cars so might be worth starting there. Plenty of information about this on the forums. Don't get too gloomy - only the unlucky owners live here - most cars run along quite well.
Last edited by hofnerpres1; Apr 25, 2022 at 01:54 PM.
I will try to replace the CPS, it actually makes sense the most probably.. I just heard it's a real pain to replace on w209. Welp, as far as the car is running and drives me from point A to point B then I guess it's all good.
I managed to record the moment this this happens. some new info:
when the car is sitting in the sun for a while or warms up it does this:
I believe it does this also when driving, that's why the stalling.
Is this an EIS problem or still can be anything else?
Thank you
I have replaced crank sensor and this has not helped. No code
Many thanks for any info!
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