50five

That's what I thought.

So why call it "cf fabric/material"? Shouldn't it be called "Carbon fiber look material"...or "fake carbon fiber"?

HCUBED

Andy, where's your AMG?

M-bENZ

Did I ever say I have one ?

Andy

kiamcoj

Feel free to call it what you like.

50five

Believe me, I will.

But my question was directed to those that don't honestly call it what it is.

Jaki

If it makes you feel any better, no that is not real carbon fiber. It is a fabric with the carbon fiber look. I thought that was pretty obvious from the pictures, as did most people. If you go on vendor websites that sell this stuff, thats basically what they call it "carbon fiber fabric."

John Doe

im soo freaking tired of the whole poser dilemna!!!it went way too far and some people just dont know their limits

50five

They should call it "fake carbon fiber fabric". It probably wouldn't sell as well though.

But I guess there are those who also buy a fake Rolex and call it a "Rolex". Or those who buy a cubic zirconia and call it a "diamond".

John Doe

when you paint the walls on your house golden,do you try to pretend your walls are made of gold?

50five

Of course not.

John Doe

exactly,when someone puts carbon fiber fabric in their car,it s not necessarily to pretend they have a carbon fiber interior,but because they like the color ...

50five

You're missing the point.

It's not "carbon fiber fabric", it's "fake carbon fiber fabric". It's great that some people like the looks of fake carbon fiber fabric, I have no problem with that. They can wrap their entire interior in it as far as I'm concerned. But call a spade a spade for heavens sake. At least say..."I like the look of fake carbon fiber fabric".

Carbon fiber is a very strong, lightweight, synthetic fiber...not a color.

John Doe

but you see ,the way you make it come across is ,you call somebody a poser for all that??comparing it to zirconia and fake rolex...if i cant afford to paint my car flat black (6 to 10 k job) and i go wrap it in flat black vinyl (2 to 3k )..would you call me a poser??

50five

Fake carbon fiber material is "poser" carbon fiber. There is just no other way to make the call.

Real carbon fiber material is very expensive, and its use in a car elevates the moxie of the car. To use fake carbon fiber in an attempt to elevate the moxie of a car is "posing". Actually...calling something other than what it really is is either "posing" or "dishonest, or both. I don't consider a flat black car to be a car that has elevated moxie. So if you wrapped your car with black vinyl in an attempt to make people think you had a flat black painted car, you would not be "posing", because you have not in my opinion tried to fool people into having a higher opinion of your car. If you told people that the vinyl wrapped car was painted flat black, you'd just be misrepresenting what was really on the car.

kiamcoj

Ok, can we get back to what the OP was asking. If anyone has a source for CF inserts, then please post it for those interested.

I already posted the Fake, poser, mis-represented, dishonest, non moxie Fabric that simulates a CF look.

So....If you have a source for the real deal CF then help him out. Good luck to those that are looking!

50five

How has a discussion of fake carbon fiber prevented anyone with information on the "real deal" from posting up the information?

kiamcoj

Because that is a different discussion, not a discussion about where to get the type of look that he is trying to achieve. If you are more worried about trying to prove everyone wrong or get your point across about real and fake CF then you should start a new thread. In Forum terms, this is called a THREAD JACK.

In any case, have fun on the forums.

50five

But is IS a discussion about the type of look he is trying to achieve...carbon fiber. I can only assume that he is interested in real carbon fiber. People have offered information on what they call "CF", but that information is not about real CF parts. Clarification of this point is totally in line with the thread. If I had been talking about wheels, or air filters, then that would be out of context with the intent of this thread.

If Leesy is interested in fake CF stuff, then he has information about that posted here already.

kiamcoj

I was answering his question in regards to another members trim in which he used this FAKE CF cloth material. Anyways, I'm done with this.

50five

That's probably good.

FatTony001

What happen to this thread in 1 day

Question here:

Is the CF FAKE vinyl wrap, the same as REAL CF wrapping?

I mean is it possible to wrap the real stuff on some part?


This applies to an engine cover.
I would like a REAL CF cover but, can't find any
soo I guess I'm left with the CF wrap or the Vinyl CF wrap right...

50five

Real carbon fiber fabric in it's base form is just that...fabric. To make the fabric "hard" (to retain its shape), resin or epoxy has to be applied after the product has been molded into the proper shape. It's not an easy process to accomplish accurately.

You can buy real carbon fiber fabric, but using that to wrap something without applying resin/epoxy is not functional at all.

Check out this site...http://compositeenvisions.com/raw-fa...9-9oz-625.html

John Doe

i guess that "real" CF fabric is gonna elevates the moxie of the car..make it lighter and faster...just because it is " real "

50five

Given the same power, lighter generally means "faster". Of course paper mache is light, so why not use that for car structures? Oh yea, because it's missing an important characteristic...strength. So the use of real carbon fiber reduces weight and offers superior structural integrity over many other material options. Real CF moxie is generated by its strength and lightness properties.

Using quality materials in general elevates moxie...real leather versus vinyl, real aluminum versus painted plastic...real CF versus fake CF.